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Gutless Drunk · 01-05-2011, 08:45 AM

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http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...own-plays.html

There’s an art to the way Brandon Marshall talks because he usually manages to say SOMETHING without outright saying something.

Brandon Marshall wants Dolphins offense to be more aggressive.

The Miami Dolphins’ alpha receiver has done it all season, sending subliminal (and sometimes clear as day) messages to the media, encouraging us to read between-the-lines. That habit continued during his final weekly interview with WQAM’s Michael Irvin show this Tuesday.

Marshall hinted that he’s had issues with the Miami Dolphins’ conservative offensive play calling, especially how he was used in 2010, and some of it center on Chad Henne’s conservative approach to playing quarterback.

Marshall also outright admitted he and Tyler Thigpen, who replaced Henne against the Patriots, were improvising on a couple of occasions during Sunday’s 38-7 loss to the New England Patriots, a game where he caught five passes for 97 yards, most of which came in the second-half with Thigpen at the trigger.

Changing plays on the field led to Marshall having a heated discussion with quarterback coach David Lee, who didn’t like the fact Marshall and Thigpen were changing in-routes to go-routes based on the coverage Marshall was seeing.

One of those improvised plays drew a 32-yard penalty and set up the Dolphins’ lone touchdown. That pass interference was the second one the Dolphins’ Pro Bowl receiver drew all season, joining the one Jets linebacker Bart Scott committed in Miami’s 10-6 victory on Dec. 12th.

“We had a little discussion on the sidelines about keeping the route on,” Marshall said of his dispute with Lee, which centered on the type of press coverage New England cornerback Devin McCourty was playing him.

“They expect me to run an in-route, but me as a player, when we get singled with no safety over the top I want to take a shot and just converted it to a go….Seemed like an easier throw, easier play was the go route…. The quarterback coach was just doing his job. He didn’t know that me and Tyler were on the same page in terms of seeing the same thing out there.”

Marshall said he and Thigpen talked through the Patriots’ coverage often during the game. But sources tell me they changed some of Marshall’s routes in the huddle before looking at New England’s defense.

“I’m 6-5, 230 and have a rookie cornerback that’s 5-10, maybe 190 pounds in front of me. Just throw it up. You see what happened,” Marshall said, referring to the 35-yard catch he made on an improvised route. “That’s the type of play that my game has been missing all year, being able to threaten somebody deep when it’s one-on-one, no matter if they are running with me side-by-side or if I got a step or two. I look at it as if I’m open.

“When there’s press coverage outside and single safety (high) in the past taking a shot has always worked out pretty good, in my favor,” said Marshall, who finished 2010 with 86 receptions for 1,014 yards and three touchdowns. “That’s something I’ve been trying to get called all year….Trying to get them to understand if I’m covered I’m not covered.”

When asked if he favors Thigpen over Henne, whom he expressed doubts about last week for the first time all season, Marshall confronted the show’s co-host, warned he’d always “kept it real” with the show, then said: “I like whoever is getting the job done.

“Tyler gets it a little more,” Marshall said when asked a follow up question about the two quarterbacks. ”We had an opportunity to make three big plays. We made an amazing play on one of them, had a pass interference on the other, and the other one I just dropped. We really had an opportunity to go 3-for-3.

“It’s a look that I’ve been trying to communicate with the quarterbacks all year and we finally get it the last game and show what we’re capable of doing,” Marshall said. “Tyler gets it. He had an opportunity to play with Dwayne Bowe in Kansas City and they made some plays out there so I guess he understands [about] throwing the ball to a big receiver a little more than Chad Henne. But Chad has done some great things for us this year. He’s a smart, intelligent guy. The way he plays the game is he does…goes exactly through his reads.”

So, to translate it, Marshall subliminally called Henne a Robot.

“No matter the situation or the match up, it doesn’t matter that I’m 6-5, 230 against a rookie corner who is 5-8, 5-9,” Marshall said of Henne’s by-the-book style.

“We may have a discussion where we’re too safe as an offense at certain positions. I’ll take my chance in the game,” Marshall said. “We make three big plays, three conversions and then you get to the sidelines and there’s some conflict there because they don’t like it.

“If I would have caught that third one it probably still would have been a debate,” Marshall said. “We just have to get on the same page.”

Based on this season’s offensive production, and Marshall’s recent comments, it’s very clear the Dolphins weren’t in 2010.

Kaylore · 01-05-2011, 08:48 AM

Baby TO indeed.

PRBronco · 01-05-2011, 08:48 AM

Why did I picture crayons as soon as I read "Brandon Marshall drawing"?

Man-Goblin · 01-05-2011, 08:49 AM

So glad he's gone.

go_broncos · 01-05-2011, 08:50 AM

Can we bring him as an OC?

cmhargrove · 01-05-2011, 08:51 AM

Although i'll have to say, the Dolphins passing game was pretty uninspiring...

BroncosMT · 01-05-2011, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Baby TO indeed.

Agreed

Rohirrim · 01-05-2011, 09:07 AM

I am so glad we got rid of him.

JJG · 01-05-2011, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_broncos

Can we bring him as an OC?

I heard he has the job locked up.

Dedhed · 01-05-2011, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Baby TO indeed.

Another year with Henne, and this guy is going to go full blown TO.

Tombstone RJ · 01-05-2011, 09:30 AM

The phins have underachieved but they have underachieved in the toughest division in the NFL. This was a meaningless game with the second string QB playing under center. If Bmarsh was doing this in a playoff game, then it's a bad situation. However, at the end of the year with nothing on the line, I'm not so sure this is a big deal.

Ray Finkle · 01-05-2011, 09:42 AM

I'll just quote a certain person I respect that was near the Broncos while he was here:

"Brandon Marshall is one of the worst human's I have ever met"....

Kaylore · 01-05-2011, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

I'll just quote a certain person I respect that was near the Broncos while he was here:

"Brandon Marshall is one of the worst human's I have ever met"....

I have stories...

Mile High Shack · 01-05-2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I have stories...

don't hold back, he's not longer a bronco lol

it wouldn't shock me to find out he's a big POS, I pretty much assume the worst with him

I am kinda shocked, him leaving in Miami Beach, he hasn't already been caught with a gang-o-coke and doing a donkey in a hotel room or something

Ray Finkle · 01-05-2011, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I have stories...

do tell.....

Kaylore · 01-05-2011, 09:56 AM

How about instead I leak something nice and let you know there are a few Broncos who help run a soup kitchen in town for the homeless and keep it on the down-low.

Man-Goblin · 01-05-2011, 09:59 AM

I heard Brandon Marshall is adamantly against soup for the homeless.

Ray Finkle · 01-05-2011, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

How about instead I leak something nice and let you know there are a few Broncos who help run a soup kitchen in town for the homeless and keep it on the down-low.

that screams Eddie Royal...

I want Marshall dirt dammit!

Don't make me have Kuper force it out of you.

Rascal · 01-05-2011, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

don't hold back, he's not longer a bronco lol

it wouldn't shock me to find out he's a big POS, I pretty much assume the worst with him

I am kinda shocked, him leaving in Miami Beach, he hasn't already been caught with a gang-o-coke and doing a donkey in a hotel room or something

At least we know what you would be doing in his situation.

bfoflcommish · 01-05-2011, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

The phins have underachieved but they have underachieved in the toughest division in the NFL. This was a meaningless game with the second string QB playing under center. If Bmarsh was doing this in a playoff game, then it's a bad situation. However, at the end of the year with nothing on the line, I'm not so sure this is a big deal.

you dont think that a player, who has had known team defiance tendencies prior, now calling his own plays on another team is a big deal, just because its a meaningless game?

PRBronco · 01-05-2011, 10:21 AM

Oh also, oh em gee, McPoopy traded away our pro bowlars!1

Tombstone RJ · 01-05-2011, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfoflcommish

you dont think that a player, who has had known team defiance tendencies prior, now calling his own plays on another team is a big deal, just because its a meaningless game?

fact is, I don't care. Bmarsh is Miami's problem now. I'm just saying that looking at the big picture, the timing of what Bmarsh and Thigpen did (don't forget it takes two to tango) is probably not a big deal.

Also, none of us are privy to how things work on an NFL sideline. For all we know, this is not all that uncommon among players. I'm thinking OchoDinko and TO did a little bit of this same kind of stuff on their sideline. Again, it's all about the timing of said events and the ramifications of the game.

If I'm Miami's front office does this concern me, yah. But I'm not gonna make a mountain out of a mole hill.

oubronco · 01-05-2011, 10:47 AM

At least he knows you need to be aggressive

jhns · 01-05-2011, 11:07 AM

I would have loved to see this offense with Marshall, Lloyd, and Royal. Marshall and Lloyd would complement each other perfectly.

bowtown · 01-05-2011, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhns

I would have loved to see this offense with Marshall, Lloyd, and Royal. Marshall and Lloyd would complement each other perfectly.

Lloyd would never have been given the chance to shine if Marshall were still around.

01-05-2011, 08:45 AM	#1
Gutless Drunk Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 962 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	BMarsh Offensive Coordinator? brandon-marshall-admits-to-drawing-up-his-own-plays. http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...own-plays.html There’s an art to the way Brandon Marshall talks because he usually manages to say SOMETHING without outright saying something. Brandon Marshall wants Dolphins offense to be more aggressive. The Miami Dolphins’ alpha receiver has done it all season, sending subliminal (and sometimes clear as day) messages to the media, encouraging us to read between-the-lines. That habit continued during his final weekly interview with WQAM’s Michael Irvin show this Tuesday. Marshall hinted that he’s had issues with the Miami Dolphins’ conservative offensive play calling, especially how he was used in 2010, and some of it center on Chad Henne’s conservative approach to playing quarterback. Marshall also outright admitted he and Tyler Thigpen, who replaced Henne against the Patriots, were improvising on a couple of occasions during Sunday’s 38-7 loss to the New England Patriots, a game where he caught five passes for 97 yards, most of which came in the second-half with Thigpen at the trigger. Changing plays on the field led to Marshall having a heated discussion with quarterback coach David Lee, who didn’t like the fact Marshall and Thigpen were changing in-routes to go-routes based on the coverage Marshall was seeing. One of those improvised plays drew a 32-yard penalty and set up the Dolphins’ lone touchdown. That pass interference was the second one the Dolphins’ Pro Bowl receiver drew all season, joining the one Jets linebacker Bart Scott committed in Miami’s 10-6 victory on Dec. 12th. “We had a little discussion on the sidelines about keeping the route on,” Marshall said of his dispute with Lee, which centered on the type of press coverage New England cornerback Devin McCourty was playing him. “They expect me to run an in-route, but me as a player, when we get singled with no safety over the top I want to take a shot and just converted it to a go….Seemed like an easier throw, easier play was the go route…. The quarterback coach was just doing his job. He didn’t know that me and Tyler were on the same page in terms of seeing the same thing out there.” Marshall said he and Thigpen talked through the Patriots’ coverage often during the game. But sources tell me they changed some of Marshall’s routes in the huddle before looking at New England’s defense. “I’m 6-5, 230 and have a rookie cornerback that’s 5-10, maybe 190 pounds in front of me. Just throw it up. You see what happened,” Marshall said, referring to the 35-yard catch he made on an improvised route. “That’s the type of play that my game has been missing all year, being able to threaten somebody deep when it’s one-on-one, no matter if they are running with me side-by-side or if I got a step or two. I look at it as if I’m open. “When there’s press coverage outside and single safety (high) in the past taking a shot has always worked out pretty good, in my favor,” said Marshall, who finished 2010 with 86 receptions for 1,014 yards and three touchdowns. “That’s something I’ve been trying to get called all year….Trying to get them to understand if I’m covered I’m not covered.” When asked if he favors Thigpen over Henne, whom he expressed doubts about last week for the first time all season, Marshall confronted the show’s co-host, warned he’d always “kept it real” with the show, then said: “I like whoever is getting the job done. “Tyler gets it a little more,” Marshall said when asked a follow up question about the two quarterbacks. ”We had an opportunity to make three big plays. We made an amazing play on one of them, had a pass interference on the other, and the other one I just dropped. We really had an opportunity to go 3-for-3. “It’s a look that I’ve been trying to communicate with the quarterbacks all year and we finally get it the last game and show what we’re capable of doing,” Marshall said. “Tyler gets it. He had an opportunity to play with Dwayne Bowe in Kansas City and they made some plays out there so I guess he understands [about] throwing the ball to a big receiver a little more than Chad Henne. But Chad has done some great things for us this year. He’s a smart, intelligent guy. The way he plays the game is he does…goes exactly through his reads.” So, to translate it, Marshall subliminally called Henne a Robot. “No matter the situation or the match up, it doesn’t matter that I’m 6-5, 230 against a rookie corner who is 5-8, 5-9,” Marshall said of Henne’s by-the-book style. “We may have a discussion where we’re too safe as an offense at certain positions. I’ll take my chance in the game,” Marshall said. “We make three big plays, three conversions and then you get to the sidelines and there’s some conflict there because they don’t like it. “If I would have caught that third one it probably still would have been a debate,” Marshall said. “We just have to get on the same page.” Based on this season’s offensive production, and Marshall’s recent comments, it’s very clear the Dolphins weren’t in 2010.

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01-05-2011, 08:48 AM	#2
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,334 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Baby TO indeed.

01-05-2011, 08:48 AM	#3
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	Why did I picture crayons as soon as I read "Brandon Marshall drawing"?

01-05-2011, 08:49 AM	#4
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,602 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	So glad he's gone.

01-05-2011, 08:50 AM	#5
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Can we bring him as an OC?

01-05-2011, 08:51 AM	#6
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,423 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Although i'll have to say, the Dolphins passing game was pretty uninspiring...

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Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,109	I am so glad we got rid of him.

01-05-2011, 09:30 AM	#11
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,527 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	The phins have underachieved but they have underachieved in the toughest division in the NFL. This was a meaningless game with the second string QB playing under center. If Bmarsh was doing this in a playoff game, then it's a bad situation. However, at the end of the year with nothing on the line, I'm not so sure this is a big deal.

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Ray Finkle DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 7,465	I'll just quote a certain person I respect that was near the Broncos while he was here: "Brandon Marshall is one of the worst human's I have ever met"....

01-05-2011, 09:56 AM	#16
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,334 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	How about instead I leak something nice and let you know there are a few Broncos who help run a soup kitchen in town for the homeless and keep it on the down-low.

01-05-2011, 09:59 AM	#17
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,602 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	I heard Brandon Marshall is adamantly against soup for the homeless.

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PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	Oh also, oh em gee, McPoopy traded away our pro bowlars!1

01-05-2011, 10:47 AM	#23
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686	At least he knows you need to be aggressive

01-05-2011, 11:07 AM	#24
jhns I'm all up in your face but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,405 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I would have loved to see this offense with Marshall, Lloyd, and Royal. Marshall and Lloyd would complement each other perfectly.