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Old 01-04-2011, 06:58 AM   #1
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Default Broncos will want 2nd round pick for Orton

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 4, 2011, 9:29 AM EST

Kyle Orton, who finished with 20 touchdowns and nine interceptions this year, would upgrade a lot of quarterback situations around the league. He’s a perfect candidate to pair with a raw young quarterback. Like, say, Tim Tebow.

Despite that, Mike Klis of the Denver Post writes that Orton will “likely be traded.” The Broncos will reportedly ask for a second round pick for Orton. A few points here:

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ick-for-orton/

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_17002942 (analysis of Broncos roster)


I think Rosenthal makes some good points here.

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Old 01-04-2011, 07:00 AM   #2
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I'd say a second is the least they should take.
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how the heck does Mike Kliss know the Broncos will ask for a 2nd?
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:02 AM   #5
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if thats what they are looking for then we will have Orton holding a clipboard next year
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:02 AM   #6
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John Clayton spoke this morning of his possibility of going to the Vikings
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I don't think a 2nd is TO far fetched...although i think a 3rd is more likely!
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"Whatever the news is, I'll listen and definitely perk up whenever I hear it," said Tebow, the Broncos' exciting but unpolished rookie quarterback. "I'll look forward to whoever we get, and I'm sure it'll be a great coach."

Thank you, Buzz Lightyear.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:07 AM   #9
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Through 11 of his 13 starts, veteran Kyle Orton played beautifully, if mostly between the 20s. Orton, though, could not overcome the Broncos' ineffective running game and push the offense into the top 10 in scoring.

Tebow was almost the anti-Orton in his final three games: hardly pretty between the 20s, but his running ability helped him play well in the red zone and in the fourth quarter. Tebow will be the Broncos' starting quarterback in 2011. Orton is too good to play backup, so he will likely be traded. The Broncos will ask for a second-round draft pick.



Read more: Analysis of Broncos' roster after forgettable season - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz1A4z0uZjP
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Well there are some dumb front offices, so a second is possible. It will be harder now that a raw project rookie outperformed him even after the guy calling the plays was fired during the season. We could always hope Josh gets a job somewhere.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:10 AM   #11
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Trade Orton for as much as you can get and give Tebow the chance to succeed next year unless a miracle happens and you have a chance at Luck. Orton will just be a distraction and the Broncos have got to acquire more picks. 6 total picks is way too few for a team with this many holes.

Tebow is just as good of a prospect as the rest the other 4 possible first round QBs except for maybe Newton, but if you're going to ride the raw QB train you might as well go with the guy you've got. Especially with everything else Tebow has to offer and the fact that Newton has questionable character, to say the least.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:25 AM   #12
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I think a 3rd is more likely, but maybe we can get a 2nd if more than one team want him, which I doubt.
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I`d take an early 3rd. There`s a lot of needy teams in that range.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:34 AM   #14
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McD was working at making him worth a first. he did make a mistake by not benching him with the rib/shoulder injury but all that is moot now
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I'd be surprised if we got a 2nd, but I think we should be able to get a 3rd.
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McD was working at making him worth a first. he did make a mistake by not benching him with the rib/shoulder injury but all that is moot now
It was a good idea to sign him to a two-year deal to ensure he was a tradeable asset after the season.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:41 AM   #17
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This is interesting...

The Broncos are likely to bring back Haggan and Joe Mays, but there will be discussion about D.J. Williams and Robert Ayers.

Read more: Analysis of Broncos' roster after forgettable season - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz1A57XDE1X
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This is interesting...

The Broncos are likely to bring back Haggan and Joe Mays, but there will be discussion about D.J. Williams and Robert Ayers.

Read more: Analysis of Broncos' roster after forgettable season - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz1A57XDE1X
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no possible way either of those guys are released.
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I think if we don't get at LEAST a 2nd then he can sit behind Tebow.
Orton doesn't want to sit and is obviously pissed about Tebow even starting
the last 3 games. (which he should not be). He probably would be right to be pissed to sit next year though if he is healthy.

We can trade Quinn for a third to 4th (maybe). Orton is definitely worth a 2 or more, if Charlie Whitehurst was a 2nd in a deeper draft, with no rookie cap.
Unless we get that 2 (or better) than keep him and trade Quinn if needed.
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I think if we don't get at LEAST a 2nd then he can sit behind Tebow.
Orton doesn't want to sit and is obviously pissed about Tebow even starting
the last 3 games. (which he should not be). He probably would be right to be pissed to sit next year though if he is healthy.

We can trade Quinn for a third to 4th (maybe). Orton is definitely worth a 2 or more, if Charlie Whitehurst was a 2nd in a deeper draft, with no rookie cap.
Unless we get that 2 (or better) than keep him and trade Quinn if needed.
Nobody is trading anything for Brady Quinn.
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no possible way either of those guys are released.
I wouldn't think so either. D.J. is, sadly, one of our best players and no way you give up on Ayers this early.
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no possible way either of those guys are released.
I think Ayers is kept....DJ I hope is traded..
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I think if we don't get at LEAST a 2nd then he can sit behind Tebow.
Orton doesn't want to sit and is obviously pissed about Tebow even starting
the last 3 games. (which he should not be). He probably would be right to be pissed to sit next year though if he is healthy.

We can trade Quinn for a third to 4th (maybe). Orton is definitely worth a 2 or more, if Charlie Whitehurst was a 2nd in a deeper draft, with no rookie cap.
Unless we get that 2 (or better) than keep him and trade Quinn if needed.

if you think we can get a third for Quinn at this point you are NUTS
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I think if we don't get at LEAST a 2nd then he can sit behind Tebow.
Then we`ll get nothing for him when he leaves at the end of the season. We should take what the market will bare.

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I sincerely doubt it. Quinn should be our backup.
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despite the hatred/disgust re: orton's recent demeanor, its this same attitude we are hating from him that will land us a higher return, maybe even a second.
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