Andrew Luck is a Project - The Orange Mane

epicSocialism4tw · 01-03-2011, 09:34 PM

Andrew Luck is a project.

He has a questionable release, often throwing fluttering ducks.

When he throws, he pushes the ball...alot like Rivers.

He throws off of his back foot under pressure, and when he does that he floats the ball a little.

He locks on to his primary receivers.

He makes some immature decisions to try to extend plays with his feet rather than to throw the ball away when throwing it away would be a better choice.

He throws picks.

He wears a knee brace for some reason, which needs to be explored.

He earned his statistics in a weak conference against weak defenses.

He appears to have a sheepish, bland, Griese-esque personality...can he be a leader of men at the next level?

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Okay.

You're stirred up and agitated and ready to spit venom all over this thread. Thats okay, but hang in there with me for a second. I don't believe that any of the things that I wrote above will prevent Luck from being successful. I think that he'll be a success in the pros. He may even be a sparkling success. He has ability and could end up winning 10 straight MVP's and 10-straight superbowls, right? Okay. I'm not a hater. I think that he has an obvious aptitude for QB..

However, there are questions with any rookie QB. Every rookie QB. They are a roll of the dice, a spin on the wheel. A guess. An educated guess. A toss up. An expensive toss up.

Just like any rookie, Andrew Luck is a project. He is a player to be developed. Whether that takes a year, two years, or never happens is anyone's guess.

There is no such thing as a sure thing.

schaaf · 01-03-2011, 09:36 PM

Are you watching the postgame interview of Harbaugh?

I'm liking what I see from him so far.
He seems like he can really rally a team and make adjustments.

Dagmar · 01-03-2011, 09:36 PM

This sure needed a new thread. Is he NOT Christian Llama? Is that the issue?

Vegas_Bronco · 01-03-2011, 09:37 PM

He also has a kneckbeard...$

Rohirrim · 01-03-2011, 09:37 PM

drama llama ties one to the end of his line and tosses it in the water

same as it ever was

RhymesayersDU · 01-03-2011, 09:39 PM

Yeah this thread is dumb. We get it, Llama. You have your Tebow agenda that you're mandated to push every chance you get.

I like Tebow too. But this is so painfully obvious it's ridiculous.

Agamemnon · 01-03-2011, 09:39 PM

I totally agree with the reasoning behind this thread, even if I don't think we needed another Luck thread.

The guy needs work. That is very clear. Every college QB does. Luck is not an automatic perennial pro-bowler just waiting to be picked up and plugged into a roster, and those that think that way are a bit deluded.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-03-2011, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Yeah this thread is dumb. We get it, Llama. You have your Tebow agenda that you're mandated to push every chance you get.

I like Tebow too. But this is so painfully obvious it's ridiculous.

So you agree with the premise?

schaaf · 01-03-2011, 09:42 PM

I personally think he is really ugly and I do not like the way he sounds.. other than that he is a good football player

bpc · 01-03-2011, 10:00 PM

I think Luck is a good looking prospect coming out but so was Tim Couch... so was Akili Smith... so was Matt Leinart.

I thought Luck looked very average in the first half and some adjustments were made in the 2nd and he exploded. He has a nice arm, good accuracy and some mobility to move around. I'm iffy on some of the other things required of a natural born leader which you desperately need at the QB position. He'll have a learning curve just like every other rookie coming out. I don't think he's at Peyton Mannings level. Not even close. Time will tell though.

tsiguy96 · 01-03-2011, 10:01 PM

just got back from the orange bowl. this kid is sick, very easily worth the 1st overall

epicSocialism4tw · 01-03-2011, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpc

I think Luck is a good looking prospect coming out but so was Tim Couch... so was Akili Smith... so was Matt Leinart.

I thought Luck looked very average in the first half and some adjustments were made in the 2nd and he exploded. He has a nice arm, good accuracy and some mobility to move around. I'm iffy on some of the other things required of a natural born leader which you desperately need at the QB position. He'll have a learning curve just like every other rookie coming out. I don't think he's at Peyton Mannings level. Not even close. Time will tell though.

I dont think that most of the people who visit this site are old enough to remember Peyton Manning as a prospect...much less John Elway.

Agamemnon · 01-03-2011, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

I dont think that most of the people who visit this site are old enough to remember Peyton Manning as a prospect...much less John Elway.

I've been getting that feeling since joining these boards...

sirhcyennek81 · 01-03-2011, 10:08 PM

I watched the pregame for the Orange Bowl, and every single thing they said about Luck applies to Tebow. Leader, great runner, tough to bring down, gets the ball where it needs to be...We have this already.

I have no idea who the HC will be or what systems he will use or how he views current Broncos personnel, but it would be exceptionally questionable to draft a QB whose attributes that were being extolled are already present in Tebow.

Zoobie · 01-03-2011, 10:11 PM

I really just see bust written all over this kid, and I don't know why. The way he talks, he sounds so sheepish and hesitant, not like a confident leader. Again, sure there is plenty to like, but people are acting like he's god's gift to QBs. He is not, he's not even on the same level as Bradford coming out last year.

loborugger · 01-03-2011, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

drama llama ties one to the end of his line and tosses it in the water

same as it ever was

And you immediately jump on the line.

same as it ever was

sirhcyennek81 · 01-03-2011, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoobie

I really just see bust written all over this kid, and I don't know why. The way he talks, he sounds so sheepish and hesitant, not like a confident leader. Again, sure there is plenty to like, but people are acting like he's god's gift to QBs. He is not, he's not even on the same level as Bradford coming out last year.

I am fairly certain Ron Jaworski nutted twice in the pregame show. Like Jaws...he's the same age as your kid, man. Cougar.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-03-2011, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

I am fairly certain Ron Jaworski nutted twice in the pregame show. Like Jaws...he's the same age as your kid, man. Cougar.

Steve Sewell · 01-03-2011, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoobie

I really just see bust written all over this kid, and I don't know why. The way he talks, he sounds so sheepish and hesitant, not like a confident leader. Again, sure there is plenty to like, but people are acting like he's god's gift to QBs. He is not, he's not even on the same level as Bradford coming out last year.

Hmm, everything I have heard about him is that his intelligence, leadership, and personal character are off the charts. It also doesn't hurt that he's 6'4" 235 lbs with a big accurate arm, running a pro-style offense to near perfection, and oh by the way he can run like the wind.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-03-2011, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

Hmm, everything I have heard about him is that his intelligence, leadership, and personal character are off the charts. It also doesn't hurt that he's 6'4" 235 lbs with a big accurate arm, running a pro-style offense to near perfection, and oh by the way he can run like the wind.

He's actually a magic wizard.

...or Bo Derek. I cant figure out which one.

Steve Sewell · 01-03-2011, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

He's actually a magic wizard.

...or Bo Derek. I cant figure out which one.

He very well may be!

The problem with all this Luck talk is that the Broncos have no chance at getting him without neutering the franchise for the foreseeable future, so any discussion about him being a Bronco is pointless either way.

Rohirrim · 01-03-2011, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loborugger

and you immediately jump on the line.

Same as it ever was

CBF1 · 01-03-2011, 10:40 PM

I like electric chairs and rainbows

epicSocialism4tw · 01-03-2011, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

I like electric chairs and rainbows

Magnets...how do they work?

Crushaholic · 01-03-2011, 10:56 PM

Tebow sells jerseys, and will continue to sell jerseys. If the talent level is comparable, the Broncos should stick with the quarterback with the best business prospect (Tebow).

01-03-2011, 09:34 PM	#1
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Andrew Luck is a Project Andrew Luck is a project. He has a questionable release, often throwing fluttering ducks. When he throws, he pushes the ball...alot like Rivers. He throws off of his back foot under pressure, and when he does that he floats the ball a little. He locks on to his primary receivers. He makes some immature decisions to try to extend plays with his feet rather than to throw the ball away when throwing it away would be a better choice. He throws picks. He wears a knee brace for some reason, which needs to be explored. He earned his statistics in a weak conference against weak defenses. He appears to have a sheepish, bland, Griese-esque personality...can he be a leader of men at the next level? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay. You're stirred up and agitated and ready to spit venom all over this thread. Thats okay, but hang in there with me for a second. I don't believe that any of the things that I wrote above will prevent Luck from being successful. I think that he'll be a success in the pros. He may even be a sparkling success. He has ability and could end up winning 10 straight MVP's and 10-straight superbowls, right? Okay. I'm not a hater. I think that he has an obvious aptitude for QB.. However, there are questions with any rookie QB. Every rookie QB. They are a roll of the dice, a spin on the wheel. A guess. An educated guess. A toss up. An expensive toss up. Just like any rookie, Andrew Luck is a project. He is a player to be developed. Whether that takes a year, two years, or never happens is anyone's guess. There is no such thing as a sure thing.

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01-03-2011, 09:36 PM	#2
schaaf Bossing at its Finest No salary cap in the dope game Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	Are you watching the postgame interview of Harbaugh? I'm liking what I see from him so far. He seems like he can really rally a team and make adjustments.

01-03-2011, 09:36 PM	#3
Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	This sure needed a new thread. Is he NOT Christian Llama? Is that the issue?

01-03-2011, 09:37 PM	#4
Vegas_Bronco Ring of Famer Fear is a lack of preparation. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 63 Yards Out Posts: 4,024 Adopt-a-Bronco: 1 Elam 1	He also has a kneckbeard...$

01-03-2011, 09:37 PM	#5
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,814	drama llama ties one to the end of his line and tosses it in the water same as it ever was

01-03-2011, 09:39 PM	#6
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Yeah this thread is dumb. We get it, Llama. You have your Tebow agenda that you're mandated to push every chance you get. I like Tebow too. But this is so painfully obvious it's ridiculous.

01-03-2011, 09:39 PM	#7
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,429 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I totally agree with the reasoning behind this thread, even if I don't think we needed another Luck thread. The guy needs work. That is very clear. Every college QB does. Luck is not an automatic perennial pro-bowler just waiting to be picked up and plugged into a roster, and those that think that way are a bit deluded.

01-03-2011, 09:42 PM	#9
schaaf Bossing at its Finest No salary cap in the dope game Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montana Posts: 1,950 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	I personally think he is really ugly and I do not like the way he sounds.. other than that he is a good football player

01-03-2011, 10:00 PM	#10
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,568 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I think Luck is a good looking prospect coming out but so was Tim Couch... so was Akili Smith... so was Matt Leinart. I thought Luck looked very average in the first half and some adjustments were made in the 2nd and he exploded. He has a nice arm, good accuracy and some mobility to move around. I'm iffy on some of the other things required of a natural born leader which you desperately need at the QB position. He'll have a learning curve just like every other rookie coming out. I don't think he's at Peyton Mannings level. Not even close. Time will tell though.

01-03-2011, 10:01 PM	#11
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	just got back from the orange bowl. this kid is sick, very easily worth the 1st overall

01-03-2011, 10:08 PM	#14
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	I watched the pregame for the Orange Bowl, and every single thing they said about Luck applies to Tebow. Leader, great runner, tough to bring down, gets the ball where it needs to be...We have this already. I have no idea who the HC will be or what systems he will use or how he views current Broncos personnel, but it would be exceptionally questionable to draft a QB whose attributes that were being extolled are already present in Tebow.

01-03-2011, 10:11 PM	#15
Zoobie Love Machine The John Fox trot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland,OR Posts: 461 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bruton	I really just see bust written all over this kid, and I don't know why. The way he talks, he sounds so sheepish and hesitant, not like a confident leader. Again, sure there is plenty to like, but people are acting like he's god's gift to QBs. He is not, he's not even on the same level as Bradford coming out last year.

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CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	I like electric chairs and rainbows

01-03-2011, 10:56 PM	#25
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,041	Tebow sells jerseys, and will continue to sell jerseys. If the talent level is comparable, the Broncos should stick with the quarterback with the best business prospect (Tebow).