Elway deal finalized, Harbaugh is #1 choice, per schefter - The Orange Mane

tsiguy96 · 01-02-2011, 06:50 AM

per PFT:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...o-run-broncos/

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Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Elway and the Broncos have reached agreement on a deal that will make Elway an executive VP of the team......Former G.M. Brian Xanders will reportedly answer to Elway and Schefter reports the first order of business for Elway will be to try to hire Jim Harbaugh from Stanford. (Wonder if Elway has any connections there?)

Good stuff, though very very scary that a guy with no experience will be making significant team choices. I know hes a good football and business mind, but this really needs to be more like ozzie newsome and less like matt millen. Can someone do a coach chronicle on harbaugh?

Also per PFT: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nod-and-smile/

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Meanwhile, a buzz is emerging in league circles regarding the possibility that Elway will waltz into the Broncos front office, Matt Millen-style, and potentially run a team without the experience or, possibly, the skill to do so.

“Please let the Elway rumor be true!” an executive with another AFC team told us via text message earlier this week.

They absolutely need to understand what his role is, and it should be to assist in making decisions and give his input as someone who played and can still connect with current players. If he goes in and runs the show, this could be a total disaster.

CEH · 01-02-2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

per PFT:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...o-run-broncos/

Good stuff. Can someone do a coach chronicle on harbaugh?

Interserting quote about Xanders. "Former GM" yet still in the organization
Someone else has to be coming onboard to compliment Xanders

ayjackson · 01-02-2011, 06:55 AM

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Everyone around the team insists this is more than a P.R. move and Elway will truly be running the show despite no NFL experience

That’s exactly what has the rest of the NFL smiling and nodding.

Looks like he`ll have to come from behind again.

BioCore · 01-02-2011, 06:55 AM

You would have to think if harbaugh becomes our new HC that it is a lock for Luck to be our 1st round selection if he is available no matter how tebow plays today

dragondawg · 01-02-2011, 06:55 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

Kaylore · 01-02-2011, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BioCore

You would have to think if harbaugh becomes our new HC that it is a lock for Luck to be our 1st round selection if he is available no matter how tebow plays today

Well if the Panthers take him, it's a moot point.

tsiguy96 · 01-02-2011, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BioCore

You would have to think if harbaugh becomes our new HC that it is a lock for Luck to be our 1st round selection if he is available no matter how tebow plays today

i wouldnt be sure. a HC job first and foremost is to evaluate his team and its needs and try to fill them. if former players do that, great. but not waste your best resources on areas of strength.

strafen · 01-02-2011, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CEH

Interserting quote about Xanders. "Former GM" yet still in the organization
Someone else has to be coming onboard to compliment Xanders

I think that woud umtimately be the case

go_broncos · 01-02-2011, 07:03 AM

I voted for Harbaugh since there were indications that Elway will be involved in hiring HC.
I hope Harbaugh will evaluate Tebow before drafting a QB in first round.

ayjackson · 01-02-2011, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Well if the Panthers take him, it's a moot point.

I wonder if they couldn`t engineer a trade of first rounders if Luck was cold to Carolina.

Jesterhole · 01-02-2011, 07:04 AM

The scariest part of this whole deal is John putting himself up for criticism as a Bronco. Worst case scenario, he pulls a Matt Millen and our image of The Duke is forever tarnished in some way.

Good luck John! We need another comeback!

tsiguy96 · 01-02-2011, 07:04 AM

im definitely not averse to harbaugh, i think i will like that pick. wonder if he would move here though most indications are he wnats to 49ers or michigan.

lostknight · 01-02-2011, 07:04 AM

Looks like the other thread just got moved. But a head coach with only two years of pro coaching experience in the NFL? And that for the Oakland Raiders? ugh and bleh.

ayjackson · 01-02-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lostknight

Looks like the other thread just got moved. But a head coach with only two years of pro coaching experience in the NFL? And that for the Oakland Raiders? ugh and bleh.

Experienced coordinator(s) would help.

ayjackson · 01-02-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ayjackson

I wonder if they couldn`t engineer a trade of first rounders if Luck was cold to Carolina.

Can Luck play baseball?

Jesterhole · 01-02-2011, 07:07 AM

Why Harbaugh? His first order of buisness is to hire this guy? Why not do a coaching search, and interview some people? How does Studsville feel about his talk on Monday now?

tsiguy96 · 01-02-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesterhole

Why Harbaugh? His first order of buisness is to hire this guy? Why not do a coaching search, and interview some people? How does Studsville feel about his talk on Monday now?

every team in the NFL has a pretty good indication of who they want to hire before they talk to anyone.

Rohirrim · 01-02-2011, 07:09 AM

Cool. Now we'll trade Tebow to Carolina for the number one pick and take Andrew Luck.

(I'll post this over here, cause this thread was first)

strafen · 01-02-2011, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BioCore

You would have to think if harbaugh becomes our new HC that it is a lock for Luck to be our 1st round selection if he is available no matter how tebow plays today

We would have to give up the house to get Luck, unless Carolina thinks Jimmy Clausen is not QBOTF material.
I just don't see how anyone in the right mind giving up the right to get Luck.

However, the unthinkable could happen. At this point Tebow is much better marketable than when he was on draft day.
That's the only way I see this happening. Tebow to Carolina for the rights to get Luck with Harbaugh as our HC.

I still hate the thought of that...

Jesterhole · 01-02-2011, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Cool. Now we'll trade Tebow to Carolina for the number one pick and take Andrew Luck.

(I'll post this over here, cause this thread was first)

I wouldn't want that at this point. Now that we know Tebow can play at this level, I'd rather have him with all the comes with it rather take a chance on a 'sure thing' like Luck.

Jesterhole · 01-02-2011, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

every team in the NFL has a pretty good indication of who they want to hire before they talk to anyone.

56% of facts are made up on the spot...

tsiguy96 · 01-02-2011, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesterhole

56% of facts are made up on the spot...

youre right, teams go into interviews with open minds and give everyone a fair shot. like studesville interview, hes gonna get a realistic opportunity to coach this team, right?

bpc · 01-02-2011, 07:19 AM

I think Elway will be okay in this one as long as he leaves his bias' at home. I think Xanders has had a run working behind the scenes with enough GM's that this could work. He could fill in where Elway is lacking. Let's also remember that John was an Economics major at Stanford. I think he'll be alright.

As for Harbaugh, I love his toughness and grit. I'll be disappointed if they want to move on from Luck but it's basically a regime change and these things happen. In my eyes though, Tebow reminds me eerily of Harbaugh when he played. Draw up a play in the dirt and go make it happen. Those two would be passionate individuals on the sidelines.

Jesterhole · 01-02-2011, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

youre right, teams go into interviews with open minds and give everyone a fair shot. like studesville interview, hes gonna get a realistic opportunity to coach this team, right?

You said every NFL team. We sure didn't go into our last coaching search with a guy in mind. In sound like (somehow) McDaniels got the job during his interview.

Rohirrim · 01-02-2011, 07:20 AM

Online Panthers tickets can be found everywhere, for cheap. Places like ticket exchange show more than a thousand tickets up for sale for future home games.
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13466609

From a Carolina news station.

Hell, they'd probably throw in their third round pick with the number one for a shot at Tebow.

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01-02-2011, 06:55 AM	#4
BioCore Rookie Irish Bronco Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 54 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jake Plummer	You would have to think if harbaugh becomes our new HC that it is a lock for Luck to be our 1st round selection if he is available no matter how tebow plays today

01-02-2011, 06:55 AM	#5
dragondawg All Pro Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,009	http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

01-02-2011, 07:03 AM	#9
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,219 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	I voted for Harbaugh since there were indications that Elway will be involved in hiring HC. I hope Harbaugh will evaluate Tebow before drafting a QB in first round.

01-02-2011, 07:04 AM	#11
Jesterhole Ring of Famer Ridin' the McFailboat... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,036	The scariest part of this whole deal is John putting himself up for criticism as a Bronco. Worst case scenario, he pulls a Matt Millen and our image of The Duke is forever tarnished in some way. Good luck John! We need another comeback!

01-02-2011, 07:04 AM	#12
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	im definitely not averse to harbaugh, i think i will like that pick. wonder if he would move here though most indications are he wnats to 49ers or michigan.

01-02-2011, 07:04 AM	#13
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Looks like the other thread just got moved. But a head coach with only two years of pro coaching experience in the NFL? And that for the Oakland Raiders? ugh and bleh.

01-02-2011, 07:07 AM	#16
Jesterhole Ring of Famer Ridin' the McFailboat... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,036	Why Harbaugh? His first order of buisness is to hire this guy? Why not do a coaching search, and interview some people? How does Studsville feel about his talk on Monday now?

01-02-2011, 07:09 AM	#18
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,843	Cool. Now we'll trade Tebow to Carolina for the number one pick and take Andrew Luck. (I'll post this over here, cause this thread was first)

01-02-2011, 07:19 AM	#23
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I think Elway will be okay in this one as long as he leaves his bias' at home. I think Xanders has had a run working behind the scenes with enough GM's that this could work. He could fill in where Elway is lacking. Let's also remember that John was an Economics major at Stanford. I think he'll be alright. As for Harbaugh, I love his toughness and grit. I'll be disappointed if they want to move on from Luck but it's basically a regime change and these things happen. In my eyes though, Tebow reminds me eerily of Harbaugh when he played. Draw up a play in the dirt and go make it happen. Those two would be passionate individuals on the sidelines.

01-02-2011, 07:20 AM	#25
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,843	Online Panthers tickets can be found everywhere, for cheap. Places like ticket exchange show more than a thousand tickets up for sale for future home games. http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13466609 From a Carolina news station. Hell, they'd probably throw in their third round pick with the number one for a shot at Tebow.