Are we in danger of missing out on a good coach? 12 possible vacancies in the NFL? - The Orange Mane

Dagmar · 12-28-2010, 07:13 AM

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The day after the last week of NFL games is usually called Black Monday because it is the day when the axe falls on coaches in the NFL. In addition to the four in season firings, we believe there could be another 8 openings next week.

Here is the rundown on which teams may have openings:

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescri...L/Default.aspx

Panthers, Dolphins, Texans, Titans, Bengals, Browns, Giants, Raiders possibles, while the Cowboys, 49ers & Vikings fired theirs in season.

I think we are looking at at least 8 head coaching jobs up for grabs, are we in danger of missing out on a great head coach?

Mile High Shack · 12-28-2010, 07:16 AM

I don't understand why we would be in danger of missing out.....other teams have to go through the same process we do.

TonyR · 12-28-2010, 07:18 AM

I bet they already have a good idea who they're going to hire, or at least try to hire. And I bet Elway is confident he'll get whoever that is. Harbaugh or Kubiak?

colonelbeef · 12-28-2010, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

I don't understand why we would be in danger of missing out.....other teams have to go through the same process we do.

because it's implied that a few of those jobs might be more enticing than the Denver job currently is.

Giants and Cowboys to name a few.

rbackfactory80 · 12-28-2010, 07:19 AM

Absolutely. If you were a great head coach what would be your reasoning behind picking a team? Would you go to a franchise that has a horrible recent history such as Houston, the Panthers, or the 9ers or want to go to a team like Cowboys, Giants, Vikings who have been more successful as of late? Coaches need to put themselves in the best position to succeed.

ColoradoDarin · 12-28-2010, 07:20 AM

Aren't we ahead of the game with Studes? All the other teams have to bring in a minority candidate to interview for the Rooney Rule and we just have to walk down the hall.

ColoradoDarin · 12-28-2010, 07:22 AM

Also, I do believe Garrett and Frazier keep their jobs, so Minny won't be looking and that leaves the Giants as the only 'marque' franchise. And the Giants will hopefully go with Cowher. Which is great since I don't want him.

colonelbeef · 12-28-2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

Aren't we ahead of the game with Studes? All the other teams have to bring in a minority candidate to interview for the Rooney Rule and we just have to walk down the hall.

lol, so the race starts the the Broncos are already at the 10 yard hashmark

TonyR · 12-28-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

Also, I do believe Garrett and Frazier keep their jobs, so Minny won't be looking and that leaves the Giants as the only 'marque' franchise. And the Giants will hopefully go with Cowher. Which is great since I don't want him.

Yup, very possible. Even if the Cowboys job does open up it's not as popular as some believe because most people don't want to deal with Jones. Elway has strong connections to both Harbaugh and Kubiak so if they want one of those guys there's a strong chance they'll get him.

Tombstone RJ · 12-28-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescri...L/Default.aspx

Panthers, Dolphins, Texans, Titans, Bengals, Browns, Giants, Raiders possibles, while the Cowboys, 49ers & Vikings fired theirs in season.

I think we are looking at at least 8 head coaching jobs up for grabs, are we in danger of missing out on a great head coach?

Its a 1-1 replacement. If the Panthers fire Fox then the Broncos can hire Fox, or Fischer or Coughlin, any of those coaches would be fantastic for the Broncos.

Mile High Shack · 12-28-2010, 07:34 AM

NFLBRONCO · 12-28-2010, 07:44 AM

Everybody thinks Dallas is a top job. What top HC would want to work with Jerry? This is why Wade and Garrett types get hired only.

Kaylore · 12-28-2010, 07:49 AM

No, we're not because we've been looking longer than everyone else. Bowlen hires coaches pretty quickly.

jhns · 12-28-2010, 08:03 AM

People won't be looking forward to cleaning up McDaniels mess. That being said, we will still get who we want. We are probably going to give the head coach a ton of power again and that will make this job look better to the potential coaches than their other options. We also have an owner that will pay the head coach a lot. We also have Tebow. I don't see us having a problem getting who we want.

TheReverend · 12-28-2010, 08:09 AM

We're in danger of missing out on a good coach but it has nothing to do with vacancies in the league or the attractiveness of the organization.

Rohirrim · 12-28-2010, 08:16 AM

Elway has been on the sidelines at Palo Alto a few times this season. If it's going to be Harbaugh, a gentleman's agreement probably already exists and there's no need to worry about what anybody else is doing. And if that's the case, we'll probably hear about it on Jan. 4th, the day after Stanford kicks the crap out of the Hokies in the Orange Bowl.

TheReverend · 12-28-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Elway has been on the sidelines at Palo Alto a few times this season. If it's going to be Harbaugh, a gentleman's agreement probably already exists and there's no need to worry about what anybody else is doing. And if that's the case, we'll probably hear about it on Jan. 4th, the day after Stanford kicks the crap out of the Hokies in the Orange Bowl.

Gentelmen's agreements don't come with a price tag.

Homer Simpson · 12-28-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

We're in danger of missing out on a good coach but it has nothing to do with vacancies in the league or the attractiveness of the organization.

What does it have to do with? I think we become very attractive, especially if Tebow beats SD on Sunday, suddenly the fan base is invigorated for next season and we have the attention of the national media.

colonelbeef · 12-28-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer Simpson

What does it have to do with? I think we become very attractive, especially if Tebow beats SD on Sunday, suddenly the fan base is invigorated for next season and we have the attention of the national media.

Still not more so than NYG or DAL. Miami is probably right there, despite the lack of a QB.

Broncoman13 · 12-28-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

Absolutely. If you were a great head coach what would be your reasoning behind picking a team? Would you go to a franchise that has a horrible recent history such as Houston, the Panthers, or the 9ers or want to go to a team like Cowboys, Giants, Vikings who have been more successful as of late? Coaches need to put themselves in the best position to succeed.

I'd put them in this order:

1- Houston (Strong QB, RB, and franchise players in AJ, Williams, and Ryans)
2- Giants (Strong in the trenches, young receivers, franchise QB)
3- Cowboys (Build a secondary and you have a strong defense. Good skill position players, franchise QB... have to work with Jerry Jones though)
4- Vikings (Aging DL, need a QB. AD has 4 or 5 productive seasons left.)
5- Broncos (Defense is a mess. OL is decent, need a lot of pieces all over the team though.)
6- Niners (Similar to the Broncos in the talent department)
7- Panthers (Weak all over. This team will be drafting high for the next three years).

Rulon Velvet Jones · 12-28-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by colonelbeef

Still not more so than NYG or DAL. Miami is probably right there, despite the lack of a QB.

I don't think Coughlin goes. And as someone else noted, who wants to be Jerry Jones' puppet in Dallas? A strong head coach clashes with Jerry. Bill Parcells, even with his modicum of success in Dallas, couldn't work alongside that man. Guys like Coughlin and Gruden want too much and Jerry won't give it away. Even Fisher might be too strong for Jones. John Fox, maybe. Garrett, of course. Jerry needs to be able to pull all the strings. He is, of course, the owner AND GM so he gets to pick the players for the new coach. Look how well that's worked as of late.

Rascal · 12-28-2010, 08:41 AM

HAT · 12-28-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer Simpson

What does it have to do with? .

I assume he means Bowlen.....And I tend to agree.

Crushaholic · 12-28-2010, 08:46 AM

I really don't think that job openings will exist in either NY or Dallas. I know I don't live in New York, and don't have to listen to the New York media. However, I believe that a switch will only be made if they already have a big hire in mind. The Giants aren't that bad of a team...

HAT · 12-28-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncoman13

I'd put them in this order:

1- Houston (Strong QB, RB, and franchise players in AJ, Williams, and Ryans)
2- Giants (Strong in the trenches, young receivers, franchise QB)
3- Cowboys (Build a secondary and you have a strong defense. Good skill position players, franchise QB... have to work with Jerry Jones though)
4- Vikings (Aging DL, need a QB. AD has 4 or 5 productive seasons left.)
5- Broncos (Defense is a mess. OL is decent, need a lot of pieces all over the team though.)
6- Niners (Similar to the Broncos in the talent department)
7- Panthers (Weak all over. This team will be drafting high for the next three years).

If I were a HC...I put Denver dead last on the list, by a long way. But not because of any talent or quality of life issues. Because the owner has shown he is willing to fire you 28 games in.

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12-28-2010, 07:16 AM	#2
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	I don't understand why we would be in danger of missing out.....other teams have to go through the same process we do.

12-28-2010, 07:18 AM	#3
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,553	I bet they already have a good idea who they're going to hire, or at least try to hire. And I bet Elway is confident he'll get whoever that is. Harbaugh or Kubiak?

12-28-2010, 07:19 AM	#5
rbackfactory80 Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,609	Absolutely. If you were a great head coach what would be your reasoning behind picking a team? Would you go to a franchise that has a horrible recent history such as Houston, the Panthers, or the 9ers or want to go to a team like Cowboys, Giants, Vikings who have been more successful as of late? Coaches need to put themselves in the best position to succeed.

12-28-2010, 07:20 AM	#6
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,521 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	Aren't we ahead of the game with Studes? All the other teams have to bring in a minority candidate to interview for the Rooney Rule and we just have to walk down the hall.

12-28-2010, 07:22 AM	#7
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,521 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	Also, I do believe Garrett and Frazier keep their jobs, so Minny won't be looking and that leaves the Giants as the only 'marque' franchise. And the Giants will hopefully go with Cowher. Which is great since I don't want him.

12-28-2010, 07:34 AM	#11
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010

12-28-2010, 07:44 AM	#12
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,381	Everybody thinks Dallas is a top job. What top HC would want to work with Jerry? This is why Wade and Garrett types get hired only.

12-28-2010, 07:49 AM	#13
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	No, we're not because we've been looking longer than everyone else. Bowlen hires coaches pretty quickly.

12-28-2010, 08:03 AM	#14
jhns I'm all up in your face but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,405 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	People won't be looking forward to cleaning up McDaniels mess. That being said, we will still get who we want. We are probably going to give the head coach a ton of power again and that will make this job look better to the potential coaches than their other options. We also have an owner that will pay the head coach a lot. We also have Tebow. I don't see us having a problem getting who we want.

12-28-2010, 08:09 AM	#15
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,976 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	We're in danger of missing out on a good coach but it has nothing to do with vacancies in the league or the attractiveness of the organization.

12-28-2010, 08:16 AM	#16
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,813	Elway has been on the sidelines at Palo Alto a few times this season. If it's going to be Harbaugh, a gentleman's agreement probably already exists and there's no need to worry about what anybody else is doing. And if that's the case, we'll probably hear about it on Jan. 4th, the day after Stanford kicks the crap out of the Hokies in the Orange Bowl.

12-28-2010, 08:46 AM	#24
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,041	I really don't think that job openings will exist in either NY or Dallas. I know I don't live in New York, and don't have to listen to the New York media. However, I believe that a switch will only be made if they already have a big hire in mind. The Giants aren't that bad of a team...