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Old 12-26-2010, 05:47 PM   #1
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Champ's earned himself a contract, and a chance to switch to safety (if we need it, and we probably will). The newer contracts have a lot of outs in them. I think Champ's earned a good contract with a strong out language protecting the Broncos.

A nice nucleus for the future, and just about the only talent I really really want to see return.

(Goodman's not bad either, but Cox is likely to end up in the slammer, Thompsan needs work, and the entire D-line needs help bad).
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:52 PM   #2
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This is encouraging
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:56 PM   #3
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That would be great if Champ wants to return next year!
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:58 PM   #4
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Champ obviously likes Tebow. They were pallin' it up after that TD.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:58 PM   #5
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I hate to say it, but if he needs to walk, let him walk and spend the money on the line and lbs, and address whatever is left via the draft.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:05 PM   #6
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I want him back!

Not only is he a HOF stud, he's also all class and a true pro. Rebuild this **** club and surround it with winners like Champ and Tebow who also happen to be intelligent and good guys. Chemistry is so huge in this game.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:56 PM   #7
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We need help at safety. I thought we were set with Bruton and McBath, but we just got humiliated with Dawkins at Safety, and McBath was out.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:02 PM   #8
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I'd be stoked if we re-signed Champ, drafted Peterson, retained Goodman/Cox/Squid as nickle and dime CB's, and then drafted D-Line with both 2nd rounders.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:04 PM   #9
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I'd be stoked if we re-signed Champ, drafted Peterson, retained Goodman/Cox/Squid as nickle and dime CB's, and then drafted D-Line with both 2nd rounders.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:06 PM   #10
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Well with a house cleaning of all the morons with McCheat leading the pack here's to hoping this gets done.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:26 PM   #11
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No way...according to all the "Know it all's" at the mane, Champ on a new team next season is a foregone conclusion.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:31 PM   #12
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I hate to say it, but if he needs to walk, let him walk and spend the money on the line and lbs, and address whatever is left via the draft.
I want him back too, but I agree. Badass line reduces the need for badass corner.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:32 PM   #13
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If there was one older cornerback that I would want to throw a 3 year guaranteed contract at would be Champ Bailey. If I was Champ Bailey, I would wait until the new organization was announced, make my assessment, then make a decision to go to NE or stay with the Broncos.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:34 PM   #14
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:39 PM   #15
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I would love to see Champ retire as a Bronco.

Get it done.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:45 PM   #16
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I want him back too, but I agree. Badass line reduces the need for badass corner.
this uses the argument that the money they would pay champ would otherwise go to someone else, which isnt necessarily true. not sure of salary cap, but we know a few things: champ is an elite corner, not a risky FA, and when hes given help he can change games. as it is, he basically makes the game 10 vs 10, which the rest of the defense still loses.
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:15 PM   #17
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I want him back too, but I agree. Badass line reduces the need for badass corner.

Badass line + badass corner = badass defense.


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Old 12-26-2010, 08:36 PM   #18
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Per Max Denver:
He's a winner...Hopefully I'm around to see him win a lot of games.

Champ's earned himself a contract, and a chance to switch to safety (if we need it, and we probably will). The newer contracts have a lot of outs in them. I think Champ's earned a good contract with a strong out language protecting the Broncos.

A nice nucleus for the future, and just about the only talent I really really want to see return.

(Goodman's not bad either, but Cox is likely to end up in the slammer, Thompsan needs work, and the entire D-line needs help bad).
They should be prepared to just cut bait on Cox, act like he's not even a part of the team at this point until he's proven innocent, if that ever happens.

Goodman is a solid stop gap veteran. Thompson and Vaughn have the makings of a very nice nickel and dime pair. What this team really needs is to draft someone like Patrick Peterson, resign Champ, and the two of them and Goodman work in rotation with Peterson and Champ picking up time at safety. Then come 2012 Peterson is your #1 corner, Champ is a full time safety if he's more valuable there than as a corner, and you go find yourself a good #2 to play opposite Peterson.
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:41 PM   #19
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They should be prepared to just cut bait on Cox, act like he's not even a part of the team at this point until he's proven innocent, if that ever happens.

Goodman is a solid stop gap veteran. Thompson and Vaughn have the makings of a very nice nickel and dime pair. What this team really needs is to draft someone like Patrick Peterson, resign Champ, and the two of them and Goodman work in rotation with Peterson and Champ picking up time at safety. Then come 2012 Peterson is your #1 corner, Champ is a full time safety if he's more valuable there than as a corner, and you go find yourself a good #2 to play opposite Peterson.
So much for innocent until proven guilty...jeez.
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:42 PM   #20
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They should be prepared to just cut bait on Cox, act like he's not even a part of the team at this point until he's proven innocent, if that ever happens.

Goodman is a solid stop gap veteran. Thompson and Vaughn have the makings of a very nice nickel and dime pair. What this team really needs is to draft someone like Patrick Peterson, resign Champ, and the two of them and Goodman work in rotation with Peterson and Champ picking up time at safety. Then come 2012 Peterson is your #1 corner, Champ is a full time safety if he's more valuable there than as a corner, and you go find yourself a good #2 to play opposite Peterson.
That would be stupid.
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:59 PM   #21
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Cut Buck, Dawk and Graham and there's $13m towards Champs salary for 2011. Sorted.

Or alternatively if we ever switch back to a 4-3 trade Dumervil's ludicrous $14m guaranteed base salaries in 2011 and 2012. As if we'll ever be that lucky.
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Old 12-26-2010, 09:41 PM   #22
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Tebow inspires people. Hpoefully we can right this ship
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Old 12-26-2010, 09:47 PM   #23
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bring the champ back!
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Old 12-26-2010, 10:02 PM   #24
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So much for innocent until proven guilty...jeez.
Just being a realist. He very well might be innocent, but if the team acts like its no big deal and tries to support a player who winds up being convicted of sexual assault they look like a bunch of ****bags and are out a player they viewed as a piece to the long term puzzle.

Plan like he's not a part of the 2011 team. If he winds up being innocent then great, we've upgraded even more at CB. But acting like he's a building block here is not being realistic.

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That would be stupid.
What to expand on that brilliant bit of insight?
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Old 12-26-2010, 10:04 PM   #25
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What to expand on that brilliant bit of insight?
Id rather not. I think its rather self-evident.
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