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Old 12-25-2010, 10:39 AM   #1
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Even if the Broncos do land the No. 1 overall pick, they would have to then decide whether Tim Tebow, a first-round pick in April, is their QB of the future or if they would draft the more passing-polished Luck.
Elway was asked as a Broncos' fan, not an executive, what he would do if such a scenario were presented.
"That's a big question," Elway said on his radio show. "I'll tell you this: I think Andrew Luck is the best football player in the draft, without a doubt. If that were to happen, then you're going have to have some very serious conversations of exactly which direction you want to go, whether it's with Tim or take a guy like Andrew Luck. To me, barring injury, he's going to be very successful in the NFL."


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Old 12-25-2010, 10:44 AM   #2
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Pretty surprised he hedged like that.
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Translation: LUCK WILL BE A BRONCO IF THE OPPORTUNITY IS PRESENTED.
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:45 AM   #4
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This is the last thing we need. If Elway begins his Broncos career by taking another QB for a QB-rich team, then we're really going to have to start questioning his decision-making ability in the front office.

The last thing this team needs is another QB. Its absolutely the last thing that the team needs.

Draft defense for once, please. We have basically sucked on defense for a good 6 years. Draft defense. Forget the shiny QB. Draft defense.
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:51 AM   #5
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Luck might be better , but i would take my chances with Tebow ....... Tebow has more then just talent , He lifted that entire team last sunday , defense played better , Special teams did , and offense ..... not enough to win the game , but the degree that the players played was noticeable.....If u just watched the Broncos for the first time this season , you would have swore it was Tebows team
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All of this is academic though, because there's no way that the Broncos end up with the first pick in the draft. I bet that we win one of our last two and that Carolina doesnt win another game.
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:53 AM   #7
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Luck might be better , but i would take my chances with Tebow ....... Tebow has more then just talent , He lifted that entire team last sunday , defense played better , Special teams did , and offense ..... not enough to win the game , but the degree that the players played was noticeable.....If u just watched the Broncos for the first time this season , you would have swore it was Tebows team
I think that you caught on to the spirit of the team last week. Over the course of the game, you could tell that guys were buying in.

He earns respect, and he enjoys doing it.
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We need defense in the worst way but if you have a chance at the next elite QB to hit the NFL I don't see how you could pass on him
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We need defense in the worst way but if you have a chance at the next elite QB to hit the NFL I don't see how you could pass on him
We may have the next elite QB already.

I dont see how anyone can look at Tebow's first performance and think that the guy doesnt have what it takes and then some. Nobody knows whats in store for Luck, but Tebow's future looks bright.
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If Elway begins his Broncos career by taking another QB for a QB-rich team...
Well the question is whether or not we're really "QB rich". If they decide Tebow isn't the answer then passing on Luck could be a colossal mistake.
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Just hope we are in a position to get Luck. Then we can either go with him or trade the pick for some nice stuff. Either way we will be in position for a quicker rebuild.
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All of this is academic though, because there's no way that the Broncos end up with the first pick in the draft. I bet that we win one of our last two and that Carolina doesnt win another game.
I don't think Carolina will take another QB either.
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Well the question is whether or not we're really "QB rich". If they decide Tebow isn't the answer then passing on Luck could be a colossal mistake.
Not necessarily, because Orton is here.

I highly doubt that the Broncos will decide that Tebow isnt the answer. I have no doubt that the Tebow you saw last Sunday will only grow over the course of the last three games. They have a first round pick invested in him. Bailing out of a promising player for less than his worth is the same type of ridiculous management mistake that marked the McD era. If we go back in that direction, it may be time to call Elway "Matt Millen".
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Sure Tebow looked alright but he keeps running like that all the time and he won't make it a full season and we haven't seen him as a throwing QB yet so we'll have to wait to see if he can be an elite QB in the NFL and I feel Luck is an elite passing QB
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The decision is completly in Tebow's hands not Elways.... all Tebow needs to do is win.
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I don't think Carolina will take another QB either.
They will before we will. Clausen hasnt look like half the player Tebow has, and they need to inject some life into their franchise.
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The decision is completly in Tebow's hands not Elways.... all Tebow needs to do is win.
I dont think its that simple. Tebow had the Broncos in position to win the game in Oakland, and Tebow was dictating terms until McCoy decided to give the Raiders 2 points and the ball back. Then they put the game out of reach by smacking around our lazy defense. If Hall catches that TD pass, and the Broncos dont give up a safety...thats a Broncos win.

Tebow needs the rest of the team playing with some excitement, which is unlikely because the franchise is so jacked up that nobody knows which way is up. They dont know who or what theyre playing for.

If Tebow pulls these guys together for a win amidst this chaos, it will be one of those transcendent moments in sports where the franchise changes directions.
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Cam Newton would pack the stadium in Carolina..
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The decision is completly in Tebow's hands not Elways.... all Tebow needs to do is win.
That's a good point, win and no Luck
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Yeah, I just looked at the schedules and Carolina plays at Pittsburgh and at Atlanta to close out the season. They'll have the number one pick.

Cincy plays San Diego and at Baltimore.

I think Denver wins this week and then loses next week.

This is how it should end up:

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I dont know how you divvy up slots to the 4-12 group, but it doesnt look like Denver will be in a position to draft Luck. Thank goodness that decision will be made for our weak front office.
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They will before we will. Clausen hasnt look like half the player Tebow has, and they need to inject some life into their franchise.
This. I mean, it's all speculation but all the analysts have said Luck is going #1 no matter who picks. They've said Carolina specifically will since it would take a miracle for them not to be picking #1.
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This. I mean, it's all speculation but all the analysts have said Luck is going #1 no matter who picks. They've said Carolina specifically will since it would take a miracle for them not to be picking #1.
This isnt the NBA where you draft Blake Griffin, LeBarn James, or Tim Duncan with the first pick and then your franchise turns around.

"Sure things" bust all the time in the NFL. Remember Reggie Bush? You know...the sure thing? Yeah...he's a situational player. He's David Meggett. "Sure thing" Matt Leinart? Yeah. "Sure things" David Carr and Joey Harrington? The only thing certain with them is that they knew how to lose games and ride the pine.

There are no sure things in the NFL draft.
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This isnt the NBA where you draft Blake Griffin, LeBarn James, or Tim Duncan with the first pick and then your franchise turns around.

"Sure things" bust all the time in the NFL. Remember Reggie Bush? You know...the sure thing? Yeah...he's a situational player. He's David Meggett. "Sure thing" Matt Leinart? Yeah. "Sure things" David Carr and Joey Harrington? The only thing certain with them is that they knew how to lose games and ride the pine.

There are no sure things in the NFL draft.
I wouldn't deny any of that. However, on Reggie Bush, people openly questioned whether he could run between the tackles. He was never a sure thing, he was just the best college football player at the time, coming off a historic season.

I'm just saying, the guy said Carolina won't take Luck. I was agreeing with you that they will, and it's basically a consensus on that issue.
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I wouldn't deny any of that. However, on Reggie Bush, people openly questioned whether he could run between the tackles. He was never a sure thing, he was just the best college football player at the time, coming off a historic season.

I'm just saying, the guy said Carolina won't take Luck. I was agreeing with you that they will, and it's basically a consensus on that issue.
Right.

That rant wasnt directed at you, it was directed at the mindless zombies who want to destroy the little momentum that the Broncos have to chase after chance. To chase after "Luck" if you will. Throwing their futures away like a bunch of old cigarette-smoking vietnamese women sitting at slot machines in smoke-filled indian casinos across the southwest.
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He doesn't have the qualifications to be making these decisions. Bowlen is a moron (as usual). I completely hate this arrangement. Stick to marketing, stay the **** out of the front office.
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