What A ****ing Mess - The Orange Mane

SportinOne · 12-06-2010, 05:52 PM

I'm sure the sentiments that i'm about to express have already been voiced hundreds of times over in other threads but at this point I don't care.

This is frustrating. This is so so very frustrating.

I can't even really blame McDaniels for most of this. I'm sure he did what he thought was best. He had a method. It wasn't working like he planned, it took me a long time to come around, but i was finally buying into him as our captain, and even though he was losing a lot i figured we could really straighten things out for next year.

Then Bowlen pulls the plug, again, prematurely.

Bowlen seems uncalculated and incompetent at this point and as i look back over what we have lost as a result of this little venture it makes me sick. I don't care what other guys have done elsewhere. They were producing here, it was working offensively aside from a few small kinks but it was going the right direction... here we go again. New coach, new favorites, new castoffs. Can't wait to see how the board splits this time.
And all this coming together crap is really disgusting. Until this board

TLR Just when i bought in, Bowlen sold out. And here i sit, wondering just how much stupider things can get.

Dr. Broncenstein · 12-06-2010, 05:53 PM

You'll get over it.

Popps · 12-06-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

You'll get over it.

Now there's irony for you.

theAPAOps5 · 12-06-2010, 05:54 PM

Well hopefully they get it right with the next coach. With the sentiment going around Bronco Nation on McD it had to be done. It was really a perfect storm that was brewing and getting bigger in regards to McD.

I think McD was a good coach just wasn't his time and he made too many mistakes.

Garcia Bronco · 12-06-2010, 05:55 PM

Don't season ticket renewals go out next week?

Dr. Broncenstein · 12-06-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Now there's irony for you.

It's like ten thousand spoons

orinjkrush · 12-06-2010, 05:57 PM

it was a mess BEFORE the firing.

now the dust settles

ColoradoDarin · 12-06-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

It's like ten thousand spoons

Cancer spoons?

Rohirrim · 12-06-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by McChamp

And here i sit, wondering just how much stupider things can get.

Pull up a chair. You've come to the right place.

Dr. Broncenstein · 12-06-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

Cancer spoons?

When all you need is a knife. And chemo. And radiation. And a colostomy.

cmhargrove · 12-06-2010, 06:01 PM

I think some of the other things that motivated Bowlen is the fact that Tampa Bay and St Louis also got HC's at the same time.

One of those teams just beat us, and the other is still in the playoff hunt.

Its a rough world (and league).

I will go on record as McD supporter, but guess what - its over. If losing to the Raiders (badly, historically, embarrasingly) at home didn't frustrate you, I don't understand why firing McDaniels does so much.

theAPAOps5 · 12-06-2010, 06:04 PM

I was a McD supporter until the Raiders game this year. Then things just kept piling on and I just came to the realization he wasn't ready for this. Sometimes you just have to admit you need a change and I think this was the case.

Josh will be a good head coach somewhere down the road its a shame for us he had to cut his teeth here.

TailgateNut · 12-06-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Don't season ticket renewals go out next week?

Why would you and most of the others here give a ****.

Beantown Bronco · 12-06-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

I will go on record as McD supporter, but guess what - its over. If losing to the Raiders (badly, historically, embarrasingly) at home didn't frustrate you, I don't understand why firing McDaniels does so much.

Because that was just one game. Firing McD after less than two years means that, unless we bring in a guy with a very similar offensive scheme, we're looking at another potential two to three rebuilding years and/or trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

Kaylore · 12-06-2010, 06:05 PM

Well, there's two ways to look it. One is we bailed in the middle of a program to rebuild and now we'll be in disarray for at least two more years.

The flip side is we just saw the worst of it (3 wins? REALLY?) and we can only go up. Reading some of the tweets and facebook messages suggests the players were at the very least expecting this.

ColoradoDarin · 12-06-2010, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

I think some of the other things that motivated Bowlen is the fact that Tampa Bay and St Louis also got HC's at the same time.

One of those teams just beat us, and the other is still in the playoff hunt.

Its a rough world (and league).

I will go on record as McD supporter, but guess what - its over. If losing to the Raiders (badly, historically, embarrasingly) at home didn't frustrate you, I don't understand why firing McDaniels does so much.

This, I thought another year for McDaniels would be good, but I'm not crying over this and it's less shocking than when Shanahan was (rightly) fired.

Rohirrim · 12-06-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Because that was just one game. Firing McD after less than two years means that, unless we bring in a guy with a very similar offensive scheme, we're looking at another potential two to three rebuilding years and/or trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

Bingo. For those who don't get it, we're starting over. Again.

Dr. Broncenstein · 12-06-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Bingo. For those who don't get it, we're starting over. Again.

And not a minute too soon.

Eldorado · 12-06-2010, 06:24 PM

What. A f***!ng. Mess.

cmhargrove · 12-06-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Bingo. For those who don't get it, we're starting over. Again.

We did just highlight that some teams do really well by starting over, right? Tampa Bay started over, and they are still in the playoff hunt. So is St Louis. Your logic is flawed.

New regime doesn't magically mean you will lose, it just means you will be going a new direction. What evidence do you actually have that we were moving in a positive direction?

TonyR · 12-06-2010, 07:42 PM

I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is progress if they hire this coach the same way they hired the last (on the cheap and without thinking it through), and then run things (with no real GM) like they have the last two. But here's to hoping!

Kaylore · 12-06-2010, 07:45 PM

McD wasn't cheap. He was one of the highest paid rookie coaches and got one of the longest contracts for a rookie coach. I personally hope they see why new coaches get three year contracts. That four year thing was absolut dum.

TonyR · 12-06-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

McD wasn't cheap. He was one of the highest paid rookie coaches and got one of the longest contracts for a rookie coach.

Perhaps. But I'm betting he came a lot cheaper than a more experienced coach would have, no? So relatively cheap, if not "cheap".

Sassy · 12-06-2010, 08:26 PM

The players learned of McDaniels' firing via Twitter, where the Broncos announced it, and text messages.

"Guys are trying to figure out if it's true, if it's not true, what's going on," wide receiver Brandon Lloyd said on his weekly radio show on Sports Radio 104.3 The Fan in Denver.

Running back Lance Ball tweeted: "this the closest thing to Obama being elected president!!!"

Others were melancholy.

"It's tough. He's not out there playing," wide receiver Eddie Royal said. "The guys in the locker room have got to feel somewhat responsible. We didn't play well enough to win these games. We haven't had a good year. We haven't played the way we should have. Our fans are upset, and I can understand that. We've got a lot better football team than we've shown this year."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz17OeWhkNK

_Oro_ · 12-06-2010, 08:32 PM

Too bad the Rams didn't fire Spagnulo after going 1-15.

12-06-2010, 05:52 PM	#1
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,436	What A ing Mess I'm sure the sentiments that i'm about to express have already been voiced hundreds of times over in other threads but at this point I don't care. This is frustrating. This is so so very frustrating. I can't even really blame McDaniels for most of this. I'm sure he did what he thought was best. He had a method. It wasn't working like he planned, it took me a long time to come around, but i was finally buying into him as our captain, and even though he was losing a lot i figured we could really straighten things out for next year. Then Bowlen pulls the plug, again, prematurely. Bowlen seems uncalculated and incompetent at this point and as i look back over what we have lost as a result of this little venture it makes me sick. I don't care what other guys have done elsewhere. They were producing here, it was working offensively aside from a few small kinks but it was going the right direction... here we go again. New coach, new favorites, new castoffs. Can't wait to see how the board splits this time. And all this coming together crap is really disgusting. Until this board TLR Just when i bought in, Bowlen sold out. And here i sit, wondering just how much stupider things can get.

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12-06-2010, 05:53 PM	#2
Dr. Broncenstein Oldeskool Homeskool Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,848 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	You'll get over it.

12-06-2010, 05:54 PM	#4
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,131 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Well hopefully they get it right with the next coach. With the sentiment going around Bronco Nation on McD it had to be done. It was really a perfect storm that was brewing and getting bigger in regards to McD. I think McD was a good coach just wasn't his time and he made too many mistakes.

12-06-2010, 05:55 PM	#5
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Don't season ticket renewals go out next week?

12-06-2010, 05:57 PM	#7
orinjkrush ... Prospects for the future... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DistrictOfCorruption Posts: 4,918 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben Garland	it was a mess BEFORE the firing. now the dust settles

12-06-2010, 06:01 PM	#11
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,423 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	I think some of the other things that motivated Bowlen is the fact that Tampa Bay and St Louis also got HC's at the same time. One of those teams just beat us, and the other is still in the playoff hunt. Its a rough world (and league). I will go on record as McD supporter, but guess what - its over. If losing to the Raiders (badly, historically, embarrasingly) at home didn't frustrate you, I don't understand why firing McDaniels does so much.

12-06-2010, 06:04 PM	#12
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,131 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	I was a McD supporter until the Raiders game this year. Then things just kept piling on and I just came to the realization he wasn't ready for this. Sometimes you just have to admit you need a change and I think this was the case. Josh will be a good head coach somewhere down the road its a shame for us he had to cut his teeth here.

12-06-2010, 06:05 PM	#15
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,322 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Well, there's two ways to look it. One is we bailed in the middle of a program to rebuild and now we'll be in disarray for at least two more years. The flip side is we just saw the worst of it (3 wins? REALLY?) and we can only go up. Reading some of the tweets and facebook messages suggests the players were at the very least expecting this.

12-06-2010, 06:24 PM	#19
Eldorado Formerly orange&blue Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,792 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ayers	What. A f***!ng. Mess.

12-06-2010, 07:42 PM	#21
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,784	I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is progress if they hire this coach the same way they hired the last (on the cheap and without thinking it through), and then run things (with no real GM) like they have the last two. But here's to hoping!

12-06-2010, 07:45 PM	#22
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,322 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	McD wasn't cheap. He was one of the highest paid rookie coaches and got one of the longest contracts for a rookie coach. I personally hope they see why new coaches get three year contracts. That four year thing was absolut dum.

12-06-2010, 08:26 PM	#24
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	The players learned of McDaniels' firing via Twitter, where the Broncos announced it, and text messages. "Guys are trying to figure out if it's true, if it's not true, what's going on," wide receiver Brandon Lloyd said on his weekly radio show on Sports Radio 104.3 The Fan in Denver. Running back Lance Ball tweeted: "this the closest thing to Obama being elected president!!!" Others were melancholy. "It's tough. He's not out there playing," wide receiver Eddie Royal said. "The guys in the locker room have got to feel somewhat responsible. We didn't play well enough to win these games. We haven't had a good year. We haven't played the way we should have. Our fans are upset, and I can understand that. We've got a lot better football team than we've shown this year." Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz17OeWhkNK

12-06-2010, 08:32 PM	#25
_Oro_ Formerly known as Casson *Don't run that sht this way.** Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Montréal Posts: 1,199 Adopt-a-Bronco: - R. Ayers	Too bad the Rams didn't fire Spagnulo after going 1-15.