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Old 12-05-2010, 01:22 PM   #1
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When's the last time we've reached that particular ebb or worse

In the last 10 years

Within the last 2 decades

I cannot recall this team having as poor a record as that.

Normally in Mike's latter years it was late season collapses that derailed our seasons. This one was doomed from Day1.

Just interested to know can anyone recall a worse Broncos team from Coaching to players the whole kabush cos I cant.

Well maybe when we were alternating QB's between someone and a turd called Moore.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:29 PM   #2
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I think that the fact that we've been that good is why you see so many people freaking out so hard right now about this team.

We are spoiled beyond belief with how consistently good and competitive they've been.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:31 PM   #3
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Still looking,but in strike shortened '82 we finished 2-7
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:32 PM   #4
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the 82 strike year was as bad as I think I ever saw but we got Elway the next year.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:32 PM   #5
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:33 PM   #6
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:34 PM   #7
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We were 3-10 at one point. I remember vividly going to the KC game in KC with the fans chanting 3-9 on the way in.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:36 PM   #9
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All of you draft-geek-psychos should be happy!
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:37 PM   #10
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No it doesn't. The much beleaguered D showed up today against the high scoring Chorfs.
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It's not so bad. An infusion of talent via high draft picks will do this team some good. We haven't had a lot of those. We can drop Orton and maybe even Lloyd to add some more picks and really start to get younger and more talented.

Our o-line is starting to look like it has a lot of potential. I think Beadles and Walton are going to grow leaps and bounds over the offseason. Clady should be better a year away from injury and with another offseason learning the system and gelling with the rest of the line. We'll win a lot of games with just having a solid o-line.

The trick will be putting together a talented D. I really want to see Orton and Lloyd traded for picks, and I'd like to see us go heavy on defensive line and secondary.
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Dont include me in that Popps. I'm very disillusioned right now and this coming from the guy who posted we can still make the playoffs after the Jokeland hammering.

To come out and play like we did at home to KC then lay down and die in the next 3 just pulls those heartstrings that little bit tighter.

The sad fact is I dont see a whole lot of talent in this franchise at all right now. So for me it's as much a personnel issue as a coaching one. Maybe one decifered the other anyway.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:48 PM   #13
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If nothing is done this offseason to infuse this team with a lot of young talent on the defensive side of the ball, then fine, let Josh go.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:49 PM   #14
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If nothing is done this offseason to infuse this team with a lot of young talent on the defensive side of the ball, then fine, let Josh go.
hmm..you still want to give josh one more year?...good for you..
Fortunately, you are not the owner..
He will be fired after this season.
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I can't wait for the draft!!! I long ago gave up on this season. I started thinking Broncos would go 6-10 right after the bye, now I'm thinking 4-12. Denver can beat the Cardinals.
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Ability to add real Talent is #1 problem
Coaching staff is #2 problem
Our fans overvalue our talent on this team is #3 problem

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Old 12-05-2010, 01:57 PM   #17
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I was reading a article this morning on ESPN talking about how the general consensus is that this is the weakest draft in terms of seniors then there has been in a very long time. Even worse, with the CBA questions, juniors eligibile for the draft will stay away.
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I was reading a article this morning on ESPN talking about how the general consensus is that this is the weakest draft in terms of seniors then there has been in a very long time. Even worse, with the CBA questions, juniors eligibile for the draft will stay away.
This is a huge concern for me esp guys we really need are JR's. We need a personnel guy more then ever.
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I was reading a article this morning on ESPN talking about how the general consensus is that this is the weakest draft in terms of seniors then there has been in a very long time. Even worse, with the CBA questions, juniors eligibile for the draft will stay away.
I was thinking about this and it came to me that some juniors might come out anyway.

There will be a draft regardless of the CBA situation. These guys will be brought into the league with a pay slotting system for the draft. There's no avoiding it. Last years class was the last big pay day class.

Juniors this year who are looking at first round status might want to go out this year, in what is being described as a weak class, to get themselves as high of a slot as is possible (the NFLPA won't allow them to get paid less than their draft slot no matter what). If they and others hold out for the next draft there could be a lot more quality players in the draft next year and some guys won't get paid as much.

Once they are out of the NCAA and have an agent that agent could very well support them financially for a year until they get their big contract.

I expect the lower round guys to stay in school but the bigger names might want to come out now.

It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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I was reading a article this morning on ESPN talking about how the general consensus is that this is the weakest draft in terms of seniors then there has been in a very long time. Even worse, with the CBA questions, juniors eligibile for the draft will stay away.
Weak draft is not what I want to hear when the Broncos are putting up a 4-12 type season. Maybe the draft will be top heavy.

EDIT: I thought I heard this is suppose to be a deep D-Line draft.
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Weak draft is not what I want to hear when the Broncos are putting up a 4-12 type season. Maybe the draft will be top heavy.

EDIT: I thought I heard this is suppose to be a deep D-Line draft.
It won't have to be very top heavy for us to have a shot at a top player.
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:10 PM   #22
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Trading Orton and Loyd for draft picks? Seriously? But when McD does this with less talented Cutler and Marshal everyone wants his head.

Lucid...so very lucid....

I can understand the Orton argument with another QB grooming behind him (IF...IIIF we get fair value for him) but lloyd has been unreal. Sign him for 3-4 years and the WR position is set for years.
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:14 PM   #23
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Weak draft is not what I want to hear when the Broncos are putting up a 4-12 type season. Maybe the draft will be top heavy.

EDIT: I thought I heard this is suppose to be a deep D-Line draft.
Only if the juniors come out. I think the top three DT/DE's are all juniors.
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Weak draft is not what I want to hear when the Broncos are putting up a 4-12 type season. Maybe the draft will be top heavy.

EDIT: I thought I heard this is suppose to be a deep D-Line draft.
Problem is though using a top 5 pick on a 15-25 talent in other drafts blows and not what we need either.

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Trading Orton and Loyd for draft picks? Seriously? But when McD does this with less talented Cutler and Marshal everyone wants his head.

Lucid...so very lucid....

I can understand the Orton argument with another QB grooming behind him (IF...IIIF we get fair value for him) but lloyd has been unreal. Sign him for 3-4 years and the WR position is set for years.
The problem is that Lloyd is not young and he's at his peak in terms of value. He will never be more valuable than he is now.

Also I have feeling he's going to be looking to get seriously paid.
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