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Old 12-05-2010, 01:15 PM   #1
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Default Orton 9/28 32% 46.3 QB rating 1 fumble loss, refs blow call

I'm not sure how you can look past this and find a way to blame the loss on McDaniels.

He is surely the scape goat here.
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I'm not sure how you can look past this and find a way to blame the loss on McDaniels.

He is surely the scape goat here.

Simple: Josh kept calling Orton's number, and stopped calling Moreno's number.

Anyone could see that Moreno was working, and Orton was not. Why abandon the running game for a limp passing attack when you're embarassing them on the ground.

Maybe in the AFC East, passing in the fourth quarter is the thing to do, but in the AFC West, you grind your opponents into the dust in the fourth quarter when it's close, demoralize them, keep their offense on the sideline and that's how you win.
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Simple: Josh kept calling Orton's number, and stopped calling Moreno's number.

Anyone could see that Moreno was working, and Orton was not. Why abandon the running game for a limp passing attack when you're embarassing them on the ground.

Maybe in the AFC East, passing in the fourth quarter is the thing to do, but in the AFC West, you grind your opponents into the dust in the fourth quarter when it's close, demoralize them, keep their offense on the sideline and that's how you win.
Watch the game again Orton checks out of a lot of run games down the stretch.

I won't blame this loss on McDaniels.
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I think Orton checked out of run plays a lot.

Mostly the play selection was ok...it was Orton that failed to get things done.

You can blame Josh for not pulling him, which he should have.
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Maybe in the AFC East, passing in the fourth quarter is the thing to do, but in the AFC West, you grind your opponents into the dust in the fourth quarter when it's close, demoralize them, keep their offense on the sideline and that's how you win.
You are simply stuck in the wrong decade.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:21 PM   #6
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Watch the game again Orton checks out of a lot of run games down the stretch.

I won't blame this loss on McDaniels.

I will watch it again, because I sure don't believe it. I was looking for run and kept seeing pass. I'm not sure what you think you saw, but I sure didn't see it.
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Mcd lover's still thinking he is a good coach..
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That's the worse game I've ever seen Orton have. He just stunk it up. Hang this one on Kyle. Very winnable game that he just choked out.
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You are simply stuck in the wrong decade.
No team wins in Dec not being able to run unless its Indy with homefield
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No team wins in Dec not being able to run unless its Indy with homefield
We ran the ball well in the 1st December game. We were down... our objective was to find a way to score not to run the ball and grind the game out and run the clock.

If we were up it would make sense.
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I'm not sure how you can look past this and find a way to blame the loss on McDaniels.

He is surely the scape goat here.
Oh I don't know...because he allowed Orton to throw it 28 times during the game?

NO WAI!
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We ran the ball well in the 1st December game. We were down... our objective was to find a way to score not to run the ball and grind the game out and run the clock.

If we were up it would make sense.
No, you don't abandon the run when it works and you're dwon by less than seven. Stop posting, you're embarrasing yourself.
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No, you don't abandon the run when it works and you're dwon by less than seven. Stop posting, you're embarrasing yourself.
Where did I say we abandon the run?

Stop posting until you can actually read.
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I'm not sure how you can look past this and find a way to blame the loss on McDaniels.

He is surely the scape goat here.
Last week's game you could blame on McDaniels.

He called a good game this week, minus maybe one play. Great game, actually.

Orton really did stink it up today. I'm a supporter of his, but it almost looked like he was injured out there or something. He didn't look like himself.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:32 PM   #16
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So it's been said that Orton has been the bright spot while having no help from the running game or defense. Folks have said that if he had help then this team would be good.

Well the defense played well today, and they ran the ball very well. But where was Orton? I guess the Broncos need to be down by 20 points for him to get it going.

In a close game with the team playing well he was a no show.
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Oh I don't know...because he allowed Orton to throw it 28 times during the game?

NO WAI!
This is horse ****.

Orton is the QB of the damn team.

It's easy to sit here and blame McDaniels because of the heat he's gotten, but if Shanny were here it'd be on Cutler for ****ing up.

GTFOH.
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Maybe Orton played so crappy because McD told him Tebow would start if things didn't improve this week.
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I really don't see why anyone is defending anything about the playcalling late in the game. If it was Orton checking out of runs, make him stop or replace him. Pretty simple solution if your QB that can't hit an open receiver to save his life keeps checking out of a run game that is killing it.
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Last week's game you could blame on McDaniels.

He called a good game this week, minus maybe one play. Great game, actually.

Orton really did stink it up today. I'm a supporter of his, but it almost looked like he was injured out there or something. He didn't look like himself.
My wife turned to me in the third quarter and asked, "Does Orton have the flu or something?" It was obvious.
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Old 12-05-2010, 01:38 PM   #22
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This is horse ****.

Orton is the QB of the damn team.

It's easy to sit here and blame McDaniels because of the heat he's gotten, but if Shanny were here it'd be on Cutler for ****ing up.

GTFOH.
Let me ask you this.

You are the head coach, and also in charge of calling offensive plays.

It's the 4th Quarter with 8 minutes left and you're down by 4 points on the road against a division rival.

Your defense got a key stop and forced a punt, which you received with good field position on your own 40 yard line.

At this point in the game, you have a running back that has been gashing the opponents defense all game long. He has something crazy like 160 yards on 22 carries. Your quarterback, on the other hand, is completing less than 50% of his passes for under 100 yards at this point.

What do you do?
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I'm pretty sure the Broncos break the huddle with at least two play possibilities. Its on Orton to make the read and then audible into the more workable play. The run was working, the pass was not. For whatever reason Orton kept with the pass and throwing into double coverage...

But oh well. The way this season has gone I really dont care anymore. If its going to go wrong and the Broncos are playing, then inevitably it will go wrong for Denver.

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I think the worst part was the lack of play-action, it worked when we couldnt run but when moreno goes for 160+ we cant make it happen.
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Let me ask you this.

You are the head coach, and also in charge of calling offensive plays.

It's the 4th Quarter with 8 minutes left and you're down by 4 points on the road against a division rival.

Your defense got a key stop and forced a punt, which you received with good field position on your own 40 yard line.

At this point in the game, you have a running back that has been gashing the opponents defense all game long. He has something crazy like 160 yards on 22 carries. Your quarterback, on the other hand, is completing less than 50% of his passes for under 100 yards at this point.

What do you do?
umm..you pass?
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