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Old 12-02-2010, 12:59 PM   #1
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Sorry everyone, but I'm so pissed off right now. What other nation can host the world cup on the level the US can? WTF, the African continent gets to host the world cup twice in 12years?

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Qatar’s victory in the race to be awarded the 2022 World Cup was a triumph for spin over substance and leaves a black mark on FIFA’s already-besmirched name.

In the hours after Thursday’s announcement in Zurich, soccer’s governing body attempted to laud its decision as a bold step into new territory, a choice rich in foresight and legacy and adventurous spirit. In reality, it is perhaps the greatest folly of an organization that is so messed up that it can’t help but tarnish its reputation further with boneheaded decisions made for all the wrong reasons.

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Former U.S. President Bill Clinton was on hand for America's final bid push and FIFA's announcement.

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The United States made a solid push and played things straight down the line. However, it found that its guarantee of a hugely profitable tournament and a stadium and transportation infrastructure that is second to none wasn’t enough.

This is not a homer opinion. The criticism of the Qatar decision does not stem from sour grapes. If the U.S. bid was not going to be selected, Australia’s was the only logical other choice.

Which all begs the question: Why Qatar?

At best, the FIFA executive committee voters were whimsical enough to be sold on a dream that has little footing in reality. The sales pitch was one of gleaming, futuristic stadiums, a foothold in the uncharted soccer waters of the Middle East and the chance for FIFA to blaze a trail by embracing a fast-emerging economic power.






[Watch: Grand plans for island stadium]




Yet there were so many reasons working against Qatar that FIFA and its members managed to conveniently ignore – such as the heat, which will force fans and players to endure temperatures soaring over 100 degrees during the tournament. Or the impracticality of hosting a global event in a nation with only one major city. Or the security risks of staging it in the midst of a politically unstable region.

All those fears were magically washed away by the millions spent by Qatar on its slick campaign, which – whatever your allegiance – must be considered an epic achievement in public relations.

Qatar went all out, throwing money at star names such as Zinedine Zidane in exchange for their public backing. The spending was lavish but well directed. Clever, stylish presentations and savvy political negotiating got them over the line.

The funding for Qatar’s bid came from its ruling family and its Emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al Thani, a man with no shortage of cash or ambition for his tiny nation. The brains behind it belong to Mohamed bin Hammam, the Asian Football Confederation president who quickly saw an opening in aligning himself to the powerful axis of South American and Asian voters who supported the Spain-Portugal bid for 2018. That voting bloc couldn’t get Spain-Portugal past Russia for 2018 but was more than enough to see off the United States and Australia for 2022.

There were understandable scenes of joy, both from the Qatari contingent in Zurich and from those in the Middle Eastern state. But there was also the overbearing sense that this just makes FIFA look bad – as if it needed any help.

[Related: Obama: ‘Wrong decision’]

Even though Qatar and Spain-Portugal were cleared by an investigation into possible collusion, there will continue to be many who suspect that some form of underhanded dealings took place. Others will worry about Qatar’s political alliance with Iran and the messages that sends. And there could be a worrying social aspect to the 2022 World Cup, with Qatari women still suffering from routine sexual discrimination.

For the United States, this is an opportunity lost. But it is hard to find fault with the bid put together by U.S. Soccer chief Sunil Gulati and backed by luminaries such as Bill Clinton and Morgan Freeman. It was clean – squeaky-clean – and seemed to tick all the right boxes, but it wasn’t to be.

The Americans will probably try again for the 2026 tournament, but a revised voting formula means that decision may not take place for another eight years. By then, who knows how the States will stand in the soccer and political spheres?

FIFA has shown now that it won’t restrict itself to the established nations, and the Qatar upset will spark a lot more enterprising bids. That means that, despite the obvious financial benefits of bringing the tournament back to the States, it is not going to get any easier for the Americans.

The hardest part of all? Second-guessing FIFA and working out what drives the strange characters who occupy its positions of power. It is a secret that Qatar figured out and used to claim soccer’s biggest prize of all.

Martin Rogers is a staff writer for Yahoo! Sports. Follow him on Twitter.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:02 PM   #2
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If you needed more proof that the world doesnt like america much, here it is,

then again, anytime you can put the world cup in a middle eastern country with zero soccer tradition, barely any infrastructure (only promises of these state of the art stadiums), a tiny population, and sweltering summers...well ya gotta do it.
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It's like a 120 in the shade there in the summer.

They'll get what they asked for.

I think it's funnier than shiat.
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FIFA is probably only second to IOC when it comes to corruption.

Sepp Blatter is the ultimate douchebag, he was put in power by south and central america and africa, and ever since then he has been pumping bribe money that way like crazy. Putting the world cup in Qatar is just the latest idiocy.
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Damn, we shoulda sent our King, er, President to go speak on our behalf.


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It's like a 120 in the shade there in the summer.

They'll get what they asked for.

I think it's funnier than shiat.
injury time will be like 30 minutes because of players cramping up every 5 minutes
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This world cup will be a disaster. The exploit immigrant asian and african workers there like you wouldn't believe. I can't wait to read the stories of what they are going to have to do to get all those stadiums built.

I don't really care because I hate the sport and find it boring. Still though it would make more money and be seen by more people in the States or even the Outback.

Not to mention Qatar doesn't go hard after terrorists. They may end up wishing they had not asked for all this attention. They oppress women and immigrants like it's the dark ages.
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Having spent several months in nearby Oman - god help the poor sods who have to run around for 90 minutes.

Of course, I'm also completely not bitter about the fact that 2 of the biggest oil/gas richest nations in the world seem to have bought themselves a World Cup to host.

grrrr.........

At least I would have visited the US for the World Cup - I'll be buggered if I'm heading back that direction in the near future.
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If you mean is he making a joke refrencing how Obama made a pitch for the Olympics and it didn't matter then yes he is for real.
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Having spent several months in nearby Oman - god help the poor sods who have to run around for 90 minutes.

Of course, I'm also completely not bitter about the fact that 2 of the biggest oil/gas richest nations in the world seem to have bought themselves a World Cup to host.

grrrr.........

At least I would have visited the US for the World Cup - I'll be buggered if I'm heading back that direction in the near future.
UK losing to Russia for the next one is almost just as bad.
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Hopefully the war against Christianity will be over by then.
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Sorry everyone, but I'm so pissed off right now. What other nation can host the world cup on the level the US can? WTF, the African continent gets to host the world cup twice in 12years?
Ummmm, geography fail on your part there.
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Just can't keep your politics out of any thread, can you?

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Anything that keeps soccer away from our shores is okay by me.
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Just can't keep your politics out of any thread, can you?

"Here's a thread about soccer! Hmmm... oooh, I've got it! King Obama! Strong take: Brought."
Seriously. I knew I'd have to read through ignorant "Soccer sucks" comments, but random, foolish political comments, too?
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Seriously. I knew I'd have to read through ignorant "Soccer sucks" comments, but random, foolish political comments, too?
I'm gonna try.

"Giving Qatar the World Cup is like having Sarah Palin head up a mental health task force. Completely unqualified, not suitable to the venue, and you just know it's going to end badly."

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Well that's just bizarre. The World Cup held here before was such a massive success. Why the hell would anyone go to Qatar? A place where civil rights are seriously infrigned. Hello ladies, I am sorry you can't visit unless you give up your civil rights and if you are gay well we are just going to throw you in jail. What a stupid choice for a World Cup venue.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ar-winning-bid

Well at least 2014 is in Brazil which should be a hell of a lot of fun to watch. That is a country that loves its football.
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If you needed more proof that the world doesnt like america much, here it is,

then again, anytime you can put the world cup in a middle eastern country with zero soccer tradition, barely any infrastructure (only promises of these state of the art stadiums), a tiny population, and sweltering summers...well ya gotta do it.
That is 100 % false. Matter of fact, Middle Eastern countries breathe football. Check out the infrastructure in UAE and Qatar, it's top class. Qatar is a country on the rise for the past 15 years.
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That is 100 % false. Matter of fact, Middle Eastern countries breathe football. Check out the infrastructure in UAE and Qatar, it's top class. Qatar is a country on the rise for the past 15 years.
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That is 100 % false. Matter of fact, Middle Eastern countries breathe football. Check out the infrastructure in UAE and Qatar, it's top class. Qatar is a country on the rise for the past 15 years.
They have a whole three stadiums and need to build 9 more...which then they will apparently disesemble and move to other countries. Between that, the horribly hot summers (i know the stadiums will be air conditioned, but what about when crowds are, you know, not in the stadiums), the conservative nature of the culture, the fact that the tourists will outnumber the population...its absurd. And yes, they may like soccer in qatar, but lets not go overboard and say its a soccer hot bed.

And there's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQLylizGmDs
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