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Old 11-05-2010, 12:35 PM   #1
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Just wondering ..... at this point I think the Bucs and Chiefs have done more with average talent then Denver has.

They seem to be going up and we seem to be going down.

Does anyone wish we would have gotten Todd Haley or Raheem Morris instead of Mcd?

I for one would trade Mcd for Morris right now. Haley I'm not to sold on just yet.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:37 PM   #2
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I would take any of the canidates over McD at this point. The best options would have been Morris, Spags, or any of the defensive guys. The two I named are both showing that they know how it's done. Work with the team strengths and build around them.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:44 PM   #4
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I wish Josh had a real GM and boss. In fact, I think every head coach should have a GM, especially a young head coach.

Pioli would have worked, but at the time we had Jim Goodman. Who knows what the team would look like right now if they could have kept him, but he should have been replaced.

In fact, didn't Pioli state he would have hired McDaniels if he could have? Haley is a hot head who all of a sudden looks great now that he's got two excellent coordinators under him. What a surprise.
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I did forget about Spagnolo. You can add him to the list
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No. Haley is a moron who is constantly getting in altercations with his players. Romeo Crennel's defense is what's keeping that team afloat.

I wouldn't want Morris for the simple fact that he's a 4-3 guy. I want to see the 3-4 stick here in Denver.
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no....I do not see anything about either of them that would make me want to trade spots with McD.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:52 PM   #8
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You think some day we will all laugh at this when we are winning SB's with josh?
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no....I do not see anything about either of them that would make me want to trade spots with McD.
Not even the fact that they are contending for their divisons in their second year as coach?

I don't know .... for sure in the case of Tampa they seem to be doing more with less. When that happens I think it comes down to coaching.

If you look at position to position they don't seem to be any better then us.
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You think some day we will all laugh at this when we are winning SB's with josh?
I hope so. I'll take a winning record just to start.
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Average talent?

Have you gone through and looked at the Chefs healthy starters v. our healthy starters?

The Bucs might be a better argument, but it very early in this process.

Right now, no... I wouldn't say I'd want to swap coaches. This is the kind of question you ask after at least 2 full seasons, if not three.
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McD is a better offensive coach than Haley but where the Chiefs did the right thing was surrounding Haley with a terrific staff and GM
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Then again, this thread was created by a top 5 whiney poster... and a guy who solely exists to ridicule Broncos players and coaches. He couldn't even make a sig-line without trashing one of our most productive players.
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McD is a better offensive coach than Haley but where the Chiefs did the right thing was surrounding Haley with a terrific staff and GM
There is a lot of debate about the skills of Scott Pioli
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McD is a better offensive coach than Haley but where the Chiefs did the right thing was surrounding Haley with a terrific staff and GM
This!

For all intents and purposes we have the following:

2nd year GM
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1st year DC
OC in name only

Doesn't inspire alot of confidence. Does it? Seemingly not a lot of help there for McDaniels to right this ship.

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Well..Right now, I will take 49er head coach over josh.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:06 PM   #17
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There is a lot of debate about the skills of Scott Pioli
maybe, but I would have accepted a crappy 1st season and a competitive 2nd season with clear signs of improvement over what we have here

that's what all 3 of those coaches have right now, and if you are a fan of one of those 3 teams, you have to be more optimistic than we are...no?
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Then again, this thread was created by a top 5 whiney poster... and a guy who solely exists to ridicule Broncos players and coaches. He couldn't even make a sig-line without trashing one of our most productive players.
Productive? That is a good one!

Don't pay attention to Popps. He is just mad that he is always wrong.
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Not even the fact that they are contending for their divisons in their second year as coach?

I don't know .... for sure in the case of Tampa they seem to be doing more with less. When that happens I think it comes down to coaching.

If you look at position to position they don't seem to be any better then us.
they have also had 2 years of top 5 picks.

Haley gambles too much and I think Morris runs his mouth too much.
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and I should amend what I said so I don't get lumped into "that" group

I AM optimistic because I am a fan and I think eventually it will get turned around...I just am not sure Josh is going to be the one to do it is all
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maybe, but I would have accepted a crappy 1st season and a competitive 2nd season with clear signs of improvement over what we have here

that's what all 3 of those coaches have right now, and if you are a fan of one of those 3 teams, you have to be more optimistic than we are...no?
Well after the Raiders game it's not hard to understand Bronco fan's deep frustration. I'll got with my standard line. I think Josh will be an elite coach someday and I hope it's for us. I reserve my opinion on rather he is or isn't our future until the end of the season.
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Well after the Raiders game it's not hard to understand Bronco fan's deep frustration. I'll got with my standard line. I think Josh will be an elite coach someday and I hope it's for us. I reserve my opinion on rather he is or isn't our future until the end of the season.
I think that's fair man, I probably should do the same to be honest
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they have also had 2 years of top 5 picks.

Haley gambles too much and I think Morris runs his mouth too much.
And McDaniels has used 5 first round picks in those two years while trading down from his top pick positions. I would say picks are not a good excuse...
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:14 PM   #24
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they have also had 2 years of top 5 picks.

Haley gambles too much and I think Morris runs his mouth too much.
and our coach doesn't do anything.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:21 PM   #25
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No.

Denver made the right decision for HC. We just have to wait for that decision to bear fruit. It probably does not help that Broncos fans in general are spoiled. It is hard for a fanbase used to immediate success to struggle.

Its not cool or great to see the team struggle one week to not having anything break right the next. So I remain optimistic that good things are coming.

We'll just have to wait it out.

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