Not being fatalistic - your top DL prospects for 2011? - The Orange Mane

Chris · 11-01-2010, 03:05 PM

The season is not over. I'm still going to enjoy watching every game. Having said that, I always want something to look forward to because I always believe in the long term health of the franchise.

Assuming we have a draft... who are your top DL prospects for 2011 and to what extent do you think a "Suh" or a "M. Williams" would turn our D into a top D?

Smiling Assassin27 · 11-01-2010, 03:29 PM

Given our past and current modus operandi: ( in order of projected return on investment)

1. Cortez Kennedy
2. Sam Adams
3. Lional Dalton
4. Gerard Warren
5. Whomever the Patriots decide to cut after the first week of training camp.

HAT · 11-01-2010, 03:39 PM

Might not get too much traffic with a thread title that begins with "Not being fatalistic"

Many around here are unfamiliar with the concept.

Champagne Powder · 11-01-2010, 03:42 PM

Alabama's Marcell Dareus would be a good fit. Versatile lineman who projects nicely as a 3-4 end.

Drek · 11-01-2010, 03:44 PM

Adrian Clayborn, Iowa. He's exactly what we need. 6'3", 287, can create pressure and absolutely demands to be double teamed while at the same time he's fierce against the run. He'd make an excellent 3-4 DE with our 1st round pick. If we don't finish in the top 10 we should trade a second (or even both seconds) to move up after him.

If available in the later rounds I'd be a big fan of Kendrick Ellis out of Hampton as a NT prospect as well as Ian Williams, Notre Dame, as a NT/DE dual purpose type.

elsid13 · 11-01-2010, 03:51 PM

I am big fan of Bailey (DE) out of Miami. He just flashes when I see him play. I also like Phil Taylor (NT) out of Baylor late.

Broncos_OTM · 11-01-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

I am big fan of Bailey (DE) out of Miami. He just flashes when I see him play. I also like Phil Taylor (NT) out of Baylor late.

Huh bailey has been quiet doesnt look that great to me hes gonna run good though jarvis moss type player to me"

Broncos_OTM · 11-01-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

I am big fan of Bailey (DE) out of Miami. He just flashes when I see him play. I also like Phil Taylor (NT) out of Baylor late.

Huh bailey has been quiet doesnt look that great to me hes gonna run good though jarvis moss type player to me

Jj watt or nick farley. Are good prospects

Jerry Curl · 11-01-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Drek

Adrian Clayborn, Iowa. He's exactly what we need. 6'3", 287, can create pressure and absolutely demands to be double teamed while at the same time he's fierce against the run. He'd make an excellent 3-4 DE with our 1st round pick. If we don't finish in the top 10 we should trade a second (or even both seconds) to move up after him.

This. Or one of the tar heels.

Rohirrim · 11-01-2010, 04:31 PM

I like Cameron Heyward. He's having a tougher time of it this year because opponents are game-planning for him but his reaction is to go into the weight room and get stronger and faster. Top flight effort player. Top flight character.

Requiem · 11-01-2010, 04:37 PM

Clayborn and Heyward would be great fits for us at end.

Dareus would also work as well, but I like the two aforementioned better.

Jordan out of Cal is right behind Clayborn and Heyward in my book, then would come Allen Bailey.

Someone mentioned Ian Williams out of Notre Dame, but he is now out for the season with a sprained MCL. If he comes back from that and tests out well through bowl games, all-star, and the combine he would be worth a look -- certainly not early now given the ambiguity regarding his health.

ro_50 · 11-01-2010, 04:43 PM

I'm a homer being a lifelong Auburn fan but Nick Fairley has been unblockable in several games, including the LSU game.

Fairley needs to improve his overall game with consistency, but the ceiling is high.

And the kid works hard, another example in the line of Auburn football players.

WolfpackGuy · 11-01-2010, 05:06 PM

That DL train left the station in the previous two drafts.

I'd look elsewhere in April.

gyldenlove · 11-01-2010, 06:08 PM

Dareus or Hayward for DE or Paea for NT.

s0phr0syne · 11-01-2010, 06:48 PM

I have been high on Beal from OU for a couple of seasons now. He looks like great OLB material to me

Beantown Bronco · 11-01-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy

That DL train left the station in the previous two drafts.

What? Aside from possibly Raji, who was drafted before our first pick in 2009, who from the last two drafts is making any kind of impact in a 3-4? There are a bunch of guys that are coming out in 2011 and project to the 3-4 with first and second round grades.

WolfpackGuy · 11-01-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

What? Aside from possibly Raji, who was drafted before our first pick in 2009, who from the last two drafts is making any kind of impact in a 3-4? There are a bunch of guys that are coming out in 2011 and project to the 3-4 with first and second round grades.

You're right.

The Broncos have been loaded up front.

So loaded in fact, they can draft for luxury at other spots.

Beantown Bronco · 11-01-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy

You're right.

The Broncos have been loaded up front.

So loaded in fact, they can draft for luxury at other spots.

This is a different argument entirely. Where did I say anything about the Broncos?

TheChamp24 · 11-01-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

What? Aside from possibly Raji, who was drafted before our first pick in 2009, who from the last two drafts is making any kind of impact in a 3-4? There are a bunch of guys that are coming out in 2011 and project to the 3-4 with first and second round grades.

Ron Brace in New England is playing well, we could've had him instead of Alphonso Smith.
This past draft, we could've landed Dan Williams, Jared Odrick, Brian Price, Terrence Cody.

We passed on these guys though.

Beantown Bronco · 11-01-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by McFoneco1331

Ron Brace in New England is playing well, we could've had him instead of Alphonso Smith.

I REALLY hope this is a joke. He has been a MAJOR disappointment so far. There are articles at least every other week in the local rags that read like Denver Post fluff pieces on Jarvis Moss and how he's "working hard to make an impact." It's comical.

400HZ · 11-01-2010, 07:52 PM

Brandon Deaderick was on every single mock draft that I made or read last year for 3-4 defense teams. He got drafted in the 7th round and is an impact starter for New England this year. If everyone knows that he's a good player, how the **** does he fall to the 7th round? Because professional talent evaluator's are all stupid.

gyldenlove · 11-01-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

What? Aside from possibly Raji, who was drafted before our first pick in 2009, who from the last two drafts is making any kind of impact in a 3-4? There are a bunch of guys that are coming out in 2011 and project to the 3-4 with first and second round grades.

Some would say Ngata and Castillo.

~Crash~ · 11-01-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

I REALLY hope this is a joke. He has been a MAJOR disappointment so far. There are articles at least every other week in the local rags that read like Denver Post fluff pieces on Jarvis Moss and how he's "working hard to make an impact." It's comical.

So your answer is to nothing at the NT area ...nice...

spdirty · 11-01-2010, 07:57 PM

You can go on and on about dline prospects, but we are taking Scotty McKnight with our first.

Beantown Bronco · 11-01-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 400HZ

Brandon Deaderick was on every single mock draft that I made or read last year for 3-4 defense teams. He got drafted in the 7th round and is an impact starter for New England this year. If everyone knows that he's a good player, how the **** does he fall to the 7th round? Because professional talent evaluator's are all stupid.

He's making the most of his time out there, but it's a little early to call him an "impact starter" (he's only started three games). Funny that he was actually a Ty Warren injury away from being cut in the preseason.

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Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,498 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	Not being fatalistic - your top DL prospects for 2011? The season is not over. I'm still going to enjoy watching every game. Having said that, I always want something to look forward to because I always believe in the long term health of the franchise. Assuming we have a draft... who are your top DL prospects for 2011 and to what extent do you think a "Suh" or a "M. Williams" would turn our D into a top D? Last edited by Chris; 11-01-2010 at 03:08 PM..

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11-01-2010, 03:29 PM	#2
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,970 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Given our past and current modus operandi: ( in order of projected return on investment) 1. Cortez Kennedy 2. Sam Adams 3. Lional Dalton 4. Gerard Warren 5. Whomever the Patriots decide to cut after the first week of training camp.

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HAT I think, therefore I ham. Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,718 Adopt-a-Bronco: Adam Weber	Might not get too much traffic with a thread title that begins with "Not being fatalistic" Many around here are unfamiliar with the concept.

11-01-2010, 03:42 PM	#4
Champagne Powder Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 314 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Alabama's Marcell Dareus would be a good fit. Versatile lineman who projects nicely as a 3-4 end.

11-01-2010, 03:44 PM	#5
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,315	Adrian Clayborn, Iowa. He's exactly what we need. 6'3", 287, can create pressure and absolutely demands to be double teamed while at the same time he's fierce against the run. He'd make an excellent 3-4 DE with our 1st round pick. If we don't finish in the top 10 we should trade a second (or even both seconds) to move up after him. If available in the later rounds I'd be a big fan of Kendrick Ellis out of Hampton as a NT prospect as well as Ian Williams, Notre Dame, as a NT/DE dual purpose type.

11-01-2010, 03:51 PM	#6
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,081	I am big fan of Bailey (DE) out of Miami. He just flashes when I see him play. I also like Phil Taylor (NT) out of Baylor late.

11-01-2010, 04:31 PM	#10
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,833	I like Cameron Heyward. He's having a tougher time of it this year because opponents are game-planning for him but his reaction is to go into the weight room and get stronger and faster. Top flight effort player. Top flight character.

11-01-2010, 04:37 PM	#11
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,551 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Clayborn and Heyward would be great fits for us at end. Dareus would also work as well, but I like the two aforementioned better. Jordan out of Cal is right behind Clayborn and Heyward in my book, then would come Allen Bailey. Someone mentioned Ian Williams out of Notre Dame, but he is now out for the season with a sprained MCL. If he comes back from that and tests out well through bowl games, all-star, and the combine he would be worth a look -- certainly not early now given the ambiguity regarding his health.

11-01-2010, 04:43 PM	#12
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	I'm a homer being a lifelong Auburn fan but Nick Fairley has been unblockable in several games, including the LSU game. Fairley needs to improve his overall game with consistency, but the ceiling is high. And the kid works hard, another example in the line of Auburn football players.

11-01-2010, 05:06 PM	#13
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,675	That DL train left the station in the previous two drafts. I'd look elsewhere in April.

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gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	Dareus or Hayward for DE or Paea for NT.

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s0phr0syne Symbiotic Absorb and Redirect Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,592 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I have been high on Beal from OU for a couple of seasons now. He looks like great OLB material to me

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400HZ Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,343 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ed Hochuli	Brandon Deaderick was on every single mock draft that I made or read last year for 3-4 defense teams. He got drafted in the 7th round and is an impact starter for New England this year. If everyone knows that he's a good player, how the **** does he fall to the 7th round? Because professional talent evaluator's are all stupid.

11-01-2010, 07:57 PM	#24
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,901 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	You can go on and on about dline prospects, but we are taking Scotty McKnight with our first.