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Old 10-31-2010, 02:25 PM   #1
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How the hell do you pass for 365 yards and manage to get 1 fricken td ?

I don't care how great his stats look, he is not winning games and needs to go.
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Old 10-31-2010, 02:27 PM   #2
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The real issue was not securing the ball on the scramble.

He had a brilliant game for 95% of it... and then pissed it away on one play.

The upside there is, that can be corrected. Should have been corrected after last week.
He's made tremendous progress, but you have to take care of the ball.
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Champ and Dawkins give up a prayer. We have an idiot extra point kicker. We fade down the stretch stopping the run. We can't run the ball.

You should watch the game. There is a whole 3+ hours on why we lost.
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Well, good think McDouche is getting Tebow ready by having him come in for his off-tackle runs on 2nd and 5 every game. Those plays display his genius for us all to enjoy.
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How the hell do you pass for 365 yards and manage to get 1 fricken td ?

I don't care how great his stats look, he is not winning games and needs to go.
One pass got us to the 1 yd line. Another TD pass called back on a BS penalty.

If you want to say he's responsible for "not winning games" I'd point to the two 4th quarter turnovers. Lack of passing TDs, though, isn't a legit criticism IMO.
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Im starting to think Orton sucks, you can have all the yards in the world the only thing that matters is touchdowns and 1st downs
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Orton is clutch, I was surprised he didn't come through at the end.
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I dont hate on Orton, think he's a functional QB, but truth is, this team needs a spark and something different. Tim, youre up.
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How the hell do you pass for 365 yards and manage to get 1 fricken td ?

I don't care how great his stats look, he is not winning games and needs to go.
It happens when your TD's get negated by penalties, or when your recievers get dropped at the 1 yard line on long passes.

If you're looking at stats... his stats could have looked really impressive if Taylor Mays doesn't drag down Lloyd at the 1, or if Gaffney doesn't fall at the 1, or if the flea-flicker isn't negated with a BS call.

Look at the many, many mistakes the entire team made all over the field. So, so brutal
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How the hell do you pass for 365 yards and manage to get 1 fricken td ?

I don't care how great his stats look, he is not winning games and needs to go.
To be fair Tebow did vulture one from him. And Moreno's cut block took another one off the boards (and yardage with it).

But then I've said it all year and quite recently in Taco's "Play Tebow?" thread. Orton can be a top 10 QB but will almost definitely not be a top 5 QB. He can put up numbers and typically won't lose you a game, but he doesn't have the killer instinct you see from the top 5 QBs who will their teams to win games.

He gets to finish out 2010 because you need to let Tebow have a year of watching and learning before you rush him out there. Hopefully he puts up good numbers to end the year and we can trade him for good value.
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Old 10-31-2010, 02:30 PM   #12
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The real issue was not securing the ball on the scramble.

He had a brilliant game for 95% of it... and then pissed it away on one play.

The upside there is, that can be corrected. Should have been corrected after last week.
He's made tremendous progress, but you have to take care of the ball.
He always has a great game and we are still 2-6 . He is at 2200 yards and has 11 td's That is like 200 yards per TD.
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Orton is not the problem.
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Nobody should be exciting that Orton has amassed a good deal of his yards in garbage time when down by multiple scores or when the game didn't even matter for the defense.
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He always has a great game and we are still 2-6 . He is at 2200 yards and has 11 td's That is like 200 yards per TD.
This isn't fantasy football. I don't care if Kyle passes for them or Tebow runs them in. We just need TDs.

Again, if you want to accurately critique this game... at least do it right. Kyle made a critical error not securing that ball.

We were snake-bit all day long, but that one was just a pure mistake on Kyle's part.
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Orton is not the problem.
Though he had a critical turnover, you are right on.
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I wonder how many people think Orton played great against Baltimore?
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The worst thing about firing McD would be the effect it would have on Tebow's development.

I love Orton, he's one of the few that's trying but he can't do it alone.
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Though he had a critical turnover, you are right on.
This.

I think this team focused some much on the passing game, that they neglected the rest of the game.
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Old 10-31-2010, 02:40 PM   #20
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Troy effin' Smith was the better QB today.
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Orton played great considering he was nearly knocked unconscious, was sacked and harassed all day long and barely had any time to throw.

Not to mention a cowardly coaching job by McDaniels to abandon the run when the game was still close. We ran the ball what TWICE all 2nd half even when the game was close and it was OBVIOUS to anyone with a pulse that San Francisco was going all out to take down Orton?

Orton was running for his life every 3rd passing play so what does McDaniels do when the game is still close? Yeah, that's right go with a five man front and ask Orton to keep throwing the ball.
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How the hell do you pass for 365 yards and manage to get 1 fricken td ?

I don't care how great his stats look, he is not winning games and needs to go.
It takes a special kind of red zone suckage, for more on this topic, see previous Broncos games.
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Troy effin' Smith was the better QB today.
If you only take into account the win/lose column, then yes, Troy Smith was the better QB today. Otherwise, its not even close.
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Troy effin' Smith was the better QB today.
Well this is a stetch...and as said, i like Orton, i dont think hes a bad QB at all. But this team needs something different. Maybe a QB more mobile. Do we have one of those on the roster? Oh yeah, we do
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