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Old 10-27-2010, 01:46 PM   #1
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Found this on the other board. Thought some of you might want to read it.





Speaking of center stage, in the case of both Singletary and McDaniels, this week's trip to London for the NFL's annual international series game at Wembley Stadium is probably a welcomed chance to leave the continent for a while. The 49ers and Broncos have been disaster stories thus far this season, and Denver's 59-14 home-field loss to division rival Oakland on Sunday prompted McDaniels to apologize to team owner Pat Bowlen, the organization and its fans. The Raiders' point total was the highest in the 51-season history of the franchise.

McDaniels is now 4-13 as the Broncos head coach since starting last year with that mirage-like 6-0 getaway, and Bowlen was said to be livid with the team's embarrassment before its home crowd. Bowlen took a sizable risk in firing Mike Shanahan and hiring the 32-year-old McDaniels in early 2009, and the former Patriots offensive coordinator has done nothing lately to disprove the notion that he wasn't near ready for the job he was given.

McDaniels' fate was thought to be tied to the development of 2010 first-round pick Tim Tebow, but now it's an open question as to whether the coach will even be around in Denver when a verdict is rendered on Tebow's viability as an NFL quarterback. The most intriguing question remaining for the Broncos this season is whether McDaniels will try to save his job and the team's season by inserting Tebow into the lineup ahead of starter Kyle Orton, who has cooled off but hardly been the primary problem in Denver thus far. Unless Tebow can play defense, or single-handedly rescue the team's woeful running game, the Broncos looked doomed to a rock-bottom experience this season.
If the Broncos do turn things over to a new head coach in 2011 or sooner, he'll inherit a roster that McDaniels has vastly transformed in his two years on the job. From trading off Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall, to acquiring the personnel to install a 3-4 defense, McDaniels has the team he chose to build. That means Denver's next head coach would likely face starting over from scratch, and another rebuilding of the roster.

But even the prospect of another extensive overhaul doesn't offer job security these days for an NFL head coach. As one NFL source put it to me: "That doesn't buy you time as a head coach any more. It's too much of a win-now league for that. Owners will still blow it up and start over if things get bad enough.''



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Old 10-27-2010, 01:50 PM   #2
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who writes this ****? tebow is not the answer to any issue this team is having right now, why would putting in a QB whos likely going to struggle save mcdaniels job ahead of a guy whos playing pretty damn good?
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The Raiders' point total was the highest in the 51-season history of the franchise.

Yeah, just another loss.



Well, if things don't get better at least we'll be in a position to go after Luck.
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who writes this ****? tebow is not the answer to any issue this team is having right now, why would putting in a QB whos likely going to struggle save mcdaniels job ahead of a guy whos playing pretty damn good?
They said it there. They said unless he plays defense it won't help us.
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:57 PM   #5
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The Raiders' point total was the highest in the 51-season history of the franchise.

Yeah, just another loss.



Well, if things don't get better at least we'll be in a position to go after Luck.
why would we draft Luck?
I think you meant this puts in a better position to go after Dareus
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They said it there. They said unless he plays defense it won't help us.
they also mentioned it as a possibility that mcdaniels would bench orton for tebow to save his job. that would almost assuredly cost him his job, we prolly wouldnt win 3 more games.
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Fire the Clown now..
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Fire the Clown now..

You and grammar have never been on friendly terms, huh?

Nor you and logic, or you and common sense, or you and knowing what the f you are talking about.


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Old 10-27-2010, 02:08 PM   #9
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Have you answered with your list of possible replacements yet?
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Mcdaniels is tearing this team apart.

Oh, wait!
He's already has...

Good luck to our next headcoach in trying to figure out how to build a winning team that is already made up of 2nd string and cast-off players from other teams, like the Lions!
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they also mentioned it as a possibility that mcdaniels would bench orton for tebow to save his job. that would almost assuredly cost him his job, we prolly wouldnt win 3 more games.
We wouldn't win 3 games with Orton either.
Orton has only won 4 games dating back from last mid-season.
What makes you think he will win 3 more this year?

Put Tebow in there, and we will win!
Of course, mister McStubborn won't do that. And that's why the bastard deserves to be fired....
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What scares me if we fire Josh, that may severely stunt the growth of Tebow. People may hate McD but no one can deny his ability to maximize a QB's potential.
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I'm telling you we will be in good position to draft a good 3-4 DE for this team. Dareus, Clayborn, Heyward IMO would all be good fits for the team.
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God I hate sports journalism. These are the people that couldn't write real news.
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When did SI start hiring Denver Post commenters?
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who writes this ****? tebow is not the answer to any issue this team is having right now, why would putting in a QB whos likely going to struggle save mcdaniels job ahead of a guy whos playing pretty damn good?
Yea, pretty rough article.

McDaniels has a lot of work to do, and things need to be fixed. But when an article makes statements like, "his future is hinged on Tim Tebow," it's just laughable.
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So did I miss it or did this "Bowlen is livid!" info just hit today?

First of all, there's really only one source that info could come from, and I'm not so sure Pat is leaking stories right now.

Are they just assuming he's livid (which is probably a safe assumption if Pat does indeed still have his faculties) or is Pat really puting it out there that he's not happy?

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God I hate sports journalism. These are the people that couldn't write real news.
Those freakin bastards are all liars when it comes to the Broncos.
How do they dare?!!!!!
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How do they dare?!!!!!
Exactly. Saying McDaniels has acquired the personnel to install the 3-4. Effing LIARS
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who writes this ****? tebow is not the answer to any issue this team is having right now, why would putting in a QB whos likely going to struggle save mcdaniels job ahead of a guy whos playing pretty damn good?
I absolutely agree here. Even the people that I see every day, "Pull Orton", No you dumb **** people, Tebow is not the answer. How about get a ****ing defense?
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I absolutely agree here. Even the people that I see every day, "Pull Orton", No you dumb **** people, Tebow is not the answer. How about get a ****ing defense?
I will agree with this to a point.

Orton does not seem to get it done in the red zone. He has been money between the the 20 but that does not win games.

He seems to treat the red zone the same as he dose when he is playing between the 20's and you can't do that. There is no reason that we can have that many trips to the red zone and not get TD's from it. Yes I know out running game is part of it but not all of it.

If we could find away to score half of the times when we were in the red zone our D could continue to be this ****ty and we would still win games.
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I will agree with this to a point.

Orton does not seem to get it done in the red zone. He has been money between the the 20 but that does not win games.

He seems to treat the red zone the same as he dose when he is playing between the 20's and you can't do that. There is no reason that we can have that many trips to the red zone and not get TD's from it. Yes I know out running game is part of it but not all of it.

If we could find away to score half of the times when we were in the red zone out D could continue to be this ****ty and we would still win games.

Better play creativity could help here. Move the pocket. Even Orton is capable of rollouts. Stretch the defense and see what happens. It could also make room for the running game if defenses have to think that Orton could roll out on them.

Seems to be a mixture of things, but 30 some odd trips into the redzone through 7 games and have only a handful of TDs?

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I don't know if I blame the red zone woes on Orton, he isn't calling the plays
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I don't know if I blame the red zone woes on Orton, he isn't calling the plays

I thought I heard that Orton is given a run or pass option on every play?



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Actually I think we should start a thread to fire the next coach after McDaniels now. From the looks of it the D-line will suck, he will inherit an aging secondary, a 2 yard and a cloud of perfume running game, and a qb controversy from day 1. The deficit will be too large.
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