How to not lose next week and the ramifications if we do - The Orange Mane

lostknight · 10-26-2010, 08:49 AM

So, there are a lot of speculation floating back and forth where things are going. The reality of it is that winning - even when it's a extreme far shot to get to the postseason - cures all ills (unless your name is Schottenheimer).

Let's be real and honest. Both Bowlen and Ellis where given the choice to comment on the record this weekend - typically done to measure the support for a coach. Neither of them opted too. If we lose next week, and josh doesn't make some major change, then the major change might be him out on the street. McDaniels has (wisely for him) gotten rid of any competition for the job inside of the lockerroom, so chances are slim that he will be on his way out, but I could easily see the OC responsibilities stripped. I could also see Xanders given the boot, or Parcell brought in ala Miami to evaluate things.

1st and 10: Don't let Tebow on the field.
Really. Don't do it. Don't think about doing it. Tebow has such freak abilities that you want to use wherever you can. His play where he outran the linebackers and safeties to the end zone a few weeks ago was great. But in the games that Tebow has been in, Orton has shown a huge regression on the field. No trick plays, no gimmicks. If Tebow is in there, it's because he is the quarterback. No one is going to bite on him running the ball. If Orton is in there, no one in their right mind believes that he will catch a ball from Tebow. Getting Orton out of the tailspin he has been in the last two games - 41.5% average completion and 6 YPA has to be the first order of the day.

2nd and 7: Don't switch between 4-3 and 3-4. This team no longer has the players to effectively play a 3-4 scheme. Denver could crowd the line of scrimmage with additional linebackers, but without Dawkins, the safeties need all the help from the linebackers that they can get.

3rd and 3: Get some short yardage. Use Eddie as a screen and short slot threat. Bring in Decker if Eddie alone isn't getting it done.

4th and 1: Run Game
There have been signs of improvement here the last few weeks. Continue it. Script the first 10 plays, and force your offense to know thoose plays like the back of their hands.

Other ideas:
Simplify the look the for D.T. He has the most sheer ability of the three big receivers. Just because Orton can juggle two different schemes in his head, doesn't mean DT or Decker can. Go simple.

Finally, let your o-coordinator call plays. Josh should have been screaming at the o-coordinator last week, instead of sitting there, all by his lonesome.

Dagmar · 10-26-2010, 08:52 AM

It's "lose".

Dagmar · 10-26-2010, 08:52 AM

lostknight · 10-26-2010, 08:53 AM

Duly noted and thank you.

Dagmar · 10-26-2010, 08:55 AM

Another one - On third and 5, don't go for 30 yards.

PRBronco · 10-26-2010, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

It's "lose".

Thank you.

Popps · 10-26-2010, 08:59 AM

Thread fail.

loborugger · 10-26-2010, 09:02 AM

The key to beating the 49ers is pretty simple. Let them beat themselves with stupid mistakes, penalties, and the likes. If we can make fewer mistakes, fewer turnovers, and just play adequate football, Denver can leave London with a win.

Ambiguous · 10-26-2010, 09:42 AM

Fwd's to jmcdaniels@denverbroncos.com. Where the hell were you last week?

baja · 10-26-2010, 09:47 AM

We lose this week and I'm going to buy the team.

Pat and have been going some fishing and he want's to retire in Baja so I offered to buy the team.

How do you guys feel about baja as your owner? My first move will be to extend Josh while I can get him cheap.

Rulon Velvet Jones · 10-26-2010, 09:48 AM

49ers open as 1 point favorites.

Greatspirits · 10-26-2010, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

Another one - On third and 5, don't go for 30 yards.

Or on 3rd and 30 dont go for 5 yards!

baja · 10-26-2010, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McRulon McVelvet McJones

49ers open as 1 point favorites.

Well their the home team.

tsiguy96 · 10-26-2010, 09:51 AM

remove "pick 6" and "end around fumble" from your playcards mcstupidhead!

Dagmar · 10-26-2010, 10:08 AM

As for your thread title, you seem to have only posted the 1st half.

What are these ramifications?

Rock Chalk · 10-26-2010, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja

Well their the home team.

they're

lostknight · 10-26-2010, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

As for your thread title, you seem to have only posted the 1st half.

What are these ramifications?

If any sort of major change is going to happen, the bye week will be when it happens, or not until the end of the season. Ramifications? Dunno. Could be a firing, could be a new QB, could be a new Parcells, could be nothing at all.

If McDaniels wants to be really sure what it will be, go win next week.

baja · 10-26-2010, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

they're

I come up with a pop quiz now and then. You get a star.

Rohirrim · 10-26-2010, 12:10 PM

The buffet is open!

cutthemdown · 10-26-2010, 12:56 PM

I smell another blowout. Broncos have quit. Even with Carr it won't matter. When any pro QB gets 7 seconds to throw ball he will do well. Plus there is a good chance broncos have quit on Mcdaniels and won't play for him anymore.

Gore may run for 200 yrds.

Pony Boy · 10-26-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loborugger

The key to beating the 49ers is pretty simple. Let them beat themselves with stupid mistakes, penalties, and the likes. If we can make fewer mistakes, fewer turnovers, and just play adequate football, Denver can leave London with a win.

The key to beating the 49ers is pretty simple.......score more point than they do.

baja · 10-26-2010, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

I smell another blowout. Broncos have quit. Even with Carr it won't matter. When any pro QB gets 7 seconds to throw ball he will do well. Plus there is a good chance broncos have quit on Mcdaniels and won't play for him anymore.

Gore may run for 200 yrds.

Doesn't matter 'the end' is near

How you gonna feel if the Broncos come out and play hard smart football and smoke the 9ers

Did they quit or were the young second stringers shell shocked? This is the question that could well be answered next Sunday.

McDman · 10-26-2010, 04:04 PM

All we have to do is stop their run game, unfortunately, I don't see us doing that.

Garcia Bronco · 10-26-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loborugger

The key to beating the 49ers is pretty simple. Let them beat themselves with stupid mistakes, penalties, and the likes. If we can make fewer mistakes, fewer turnovers, and just play adequate football, Denver can leave London with a win.

And what over the past six weeks has shown you that they can play mistake free football?

broncosteven · 10-26-2010, 05:51 PM

I think that even if we lose next week we could still win the division unless we have to use mathical math type stuff that require math in which case we are then screwed at 2-6.

10-26-2010, 08:49 AM	#1
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	How to not lose next week and the ramifications if we do So, there are a lot of speculation floating back and forth where things are going. The reality of it is that winning - even when it's a extreme far shot to get to the postseason - cures all ills (unless your name is Schottenheimer). Let's be real and honest. Both Bowlen and Ellis where given the choice to comment on the record this weekend - typically done to measure the support for a coach. Neither of them opted too. If we lose next week, and josh doesn't make some major change, then the major change might be him out on the street. McDaniels has (wisely for him) gotten rid of any competition for the job inside of the lockerroom, so chances are slim that he will be on his way out, but I could easily see the OC responsibilities stripped. I could also see Xanders given the boot, or Parcell brought in ala Miami to evaluate things. 1st and 10: Don't let Tebow on the field. Really. Don't do it. Don't think about doing it. Tebow has such freak abilities that you want to use wherever you can. His play where he outran the linebackers and safeties to the end zone a few weeks ago was great. But in the games that Tebow has been in, Orton has shown a huge regression on the field. No trick plays, no gimmicks. If Tebow is in there, it's because he is the quarterback. No one is going to bite on him running the ball. If Orton is in there, no one in their right mind believes that he will catch a ball from Tebow. Getting Orton out of the tailspin he has been in the last two games - 41.5% average completion and 6 YPA has to be the first order of the day. 2nd and 7: Don't switch between 4-3 and 3-4. This team no longer has the players to effectively play a 3-4 scheme. Denver could crowd the line of scrimmage with additional linebackers, but without Dawkins, the safeties need all the help from the linebackers that they can get. 3rd and 3: Get some short yardage. Use Eddie as a screen and short slot threat. Bring in Decker if Eddie alone isn't getting it done. 4th and 1: Run Game There have been signs of improvement here the last few weeks. Continue it. Script the first 10 plays, and force your offense to know thoose plays like the back of their hands. Other ideas: Simplify the look the for D.T. He has the most sheer ability of the three big receivers. Just because Orton can juggle two different schemes in his head, doesn't mean DT or Decker can. Go simple. Finally, let your o-coordinator call plays. Josh should have been screaming at the o-coordinator last week, instead of sitting there, all by his lonesome. Last edited by lostknight; 10-26-2010 at 08:58 AM..

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10-26-2010, 08:52 AM	#2
Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	It's "lose".

10-26-2010, 08:53 AM	#4
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Duly noted and thank you.

10-26-2010, 08:55 AM	#5
Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Another one - On third and 5, don't go for 30 yards.

10-26-2010, 08:59 AM	#7
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,786	Thread fail.

10-26-2010, 09:02 AM	#8
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	The key to beating the 49ers is pretty simple. Let them beat themselves with stupid mistakes, penalties, and the likes. If we can make fewer mistakes, fewer turnovers, and just play adequate football, Denver can leave London with a win.

10-26-2010, 09:42 AM	#9
Ambiguous Ask me about my title Go fsck yourself San Diego. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,849 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Fwd's to jmcdaniels@denverbroncos.com. Where the hell were you last week?

10-26-2010, 09:47 AM	#10
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,922 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	We lose this week and I'm going to buy the team. Pat and have been going some fishing and he want's to retire in Baja so I offered to buy the team. How do you guys feel about baja as your owner? My first move will be to extend Josh while I can get him cheap.

10-26-2010, 09:48 AM	#11
Rulon Velvet Jones You're not really here. Tight Butthole Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rent-A-DC	49ers open as 1 point favorites.

10-26-2010, 09:51 AM	#14
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	remove "pick 6" and "end around fumble" from your playcards mcstupidhead!

10-26-2010, 10:08 AM	#15
Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	As for your thread title, you seem to have only posted the 1st half. What are these ramifications?

10-26-2010, 12:10 PM	#19
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,854	The buffet is open!

10-26-2010, 12:56 PM	#20
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,531	I smell another blowout. Broncos have quit. Even with Carr it won't matter. When any pro QB gets 7 seconds to throw ball he will do well. Plus there is a good chance broncos have quit on Mcdaniels and won't play for him anymore. Gore may run for 200 yrds.

10-26-2010, 04:04 PM	#23
McDman Ring of Famer Huzzah! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,700 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	All we have to do is stop their run game, unfortunately, I don't see us doing that.

10-26-2010, 05:51 PM	#25
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,060 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	I think that even if we lose next week we could still win the division unless we have to use mathical math type stuff that require math in which case we are then screwed at 2-6.