decorated intel officer Anthony Shaffer alleges 9/11 cover up

[mhgaffney]

Decorated intelligence officer alleges 9/11 Cover Up

I thought about including this in the Fahrenheit 911 thread. But then I realized this new revelation is explosive -- and deserves a new thread.

Lt Col Anthony Shaffer is now alleging a 9/11 cover up -- and guess what? The former head of the bin Laden desk at the CIA, Michael Scheuer has gone on record for the first time -- in complete agreement.

The Pentagon burned the entire first edition of Shaffer's book -- 10,000 copies. Then from what I understand they drastically censored the second edition -- in the interests of national security.

We are witnessing the unravelling of the official 9/11 story.

This is an amazing interview folks. Please share it with others -- and will someone please post the Youtube directly. My techie skills leave something to be desired.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle26576.htm

MHG

[mhgaffney]

One thing is abundantly clear from this video.

Both Shaffer and Scheuer now understand that 9/11 was an inside job -- that various high officials and high military men were in complicity.

They also know that they cannot say that in public -- yet. It is taboo to say so.

Both Shaffer and Scheuer are pushing the envelop -- going as far as they dare -- knowing that further revelations will peel the onion back even further --

This will be interesting to watch.
MHG

[theAPAOps5]

Got a new book to sell?

[mhgaffney]

McApa,

Not my book. Lt Col Shaffer's book OPERATION BRAVE HEART is #177 at amazon -- a major best seller.

But if you check the reviews at amazon -- you will find many one star reviews by angry people who thought they ordered the first uncut edition -- and received a book so heavily redacted it is unreadable.

And I'll bet you thought we lived in a nation with freedom of speech and press. No more.
MHG

[That One Guy]

Is it a coincidence that everyone insists on making these publicity announcements in conjunction with book releases?

A synical person might think they'd benefit from the publicity such an accusation would make.

[epicSocialism4tw]

UFO's over Chelsea Manhattan today.

Gaffney, you may want to investigate to see if the Skunk Ape met with the lizard people aliens and president Obama. They may be conspiring with the Jews to blow up more US targets.

[sirhcyennek81]

Oh lord...

Isnt there a thread, somewhere, where all this 9/11 conspiracy babble exists?

[Requiem]

I will pass the link on to others.

Thanks for the information.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by That One Guy

Is it a coincidence that everyone insists on making these publicity announcements in conjunction with book releases?

A synical person might think they'd benefit from the publicity such an accusation would make.

I guess that's one way to circumvent any assessment of the content of the book in question.

[Bronco Yoda]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

will someone please post the Youtube directly. My techie skills leave something to be desired.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle26576.htm

MHG

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I guess that's one way to circumvent any assessment of the content of the book in question.

Did you seriously just advocate for Gaffney and his shwag books?

[mhgaffney]

Thanks, Yoda.

You are a scholar and a gentleman.

[mhgaffney]

In the second and third segments of the Alex Jones interview Shaffer states that Able Danger was not just a data mining operation -- but was actually tasked to go after and take out the terrorists after they had been identified. This was new information to me.

However, Shaffer and Co, were ordered to stand down -- prevented from taking out the terrorists after they had been identified. Remember - this is in the 2000 time frame -- many months before 9/11.

I'm still trying to figure out how to embed the video code.

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvWjB...layer_embedded

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x06o_...eature=related

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

One thing is abundantly clear from this video.

Both Shaffer and Scheuer now understand that 9/11 was an inside job -- that various high officials and high military men were in complicity.

They also know that they cannot say that in public -- yet. It is taboo to say so.

Both Shaffer and Scheuer are pushing the envelop -- going as far as they dare -- knowing that further revelations will peel the onion back even further --

This will be interesting to watch.
MHG

Did you watch the video??

It had nothing to do with 'inside job' and everything to do with the 911 committee covering up incompetence by both the Clinton and Bush administrations.
Not one word was mentioned in the FOX interview about an 'inside job'.

The guy is promoting a book and that was obvious.
The fact that the 911 committee covered up incompetence has been known for years.

[That One Guy]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Did you watch the video??

It had nothing to do with 'inside job' and everything to do with the 911 committee covering up incompetence by both the Clinton and Bush administrations.
Not one word was mentioned in the FOX interview about an 'inside job'.

The guy is promoting a book and that was obvious.
The fact that the 911 committee covered up incompetence has been known for years.

Haha... I wondered about that myself. I didn't watch the video but I read the long babble MHG posted on the guy and it didn't seem an inside job was the position at all. I wasn't gonna comment because I hadn't read it all. That's awesome.

[W*GS]

You guys expect gaff-o to be honest?

This is just another instance of gaff-o lying.

The jerk is a fraud.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

I'm still trying to figure out how to embed the video code.

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvWjB...layer_embedded

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x06o_...eature=related

You're an expert in structural engineering, demolition, science and have insiders in the intelligence community,
but can't figure out how to cut and paste embedded video code?

Excuse us while we pass out laughing!

[That One Guy]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

You're an expert in structural engineering, demolition, science and have insiders in the intelligence community,
but can't figure out how to cut and paste embedded video code?

Excuse us while we pass out laughing!

There's no conspiracy to be found in it.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by McSkillet

Did you seriously just advocate for Gaffney and his shwag books?

Better than advocating for the Philip D. Zelikow Whitewash Commission like a good little unthinking lemming.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

McApa,

Not my book. Lt Col Shaffer's book OPERATION BRAVE HEART is #177 at amazon -- a major best seller.

But if you check the reviews at amazon -- you will find many one star reviews by angry people who thought they ordered the first uncut edition -- and received a book so heavily redacted it is unreadable.

And I'll bet you thought we lived in a nation with freedom of speech and press. No more.
MHG

You must have a 'Gaffney' version of Amazon.

As of today, everyone else will see Amazon list it as:

Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #42,654 in Books

Of course, the Pentagon bought 9500 copies so they could destroy them, claiming that he hadn't cleared sensitive intelligence information before publishing.

Anyway, the book is about special ops in Afghanistan.....not 911.

And the title is Operation Darkheart....not 'Braveheart'.

You really are the epitome of a Troofer.

Get the facts wrong, invent new ones, scream conspiracy and hope no one notices the BS.

[mhgaffney]

Right. Operation Dark Heart. Thanks for the correction.

The book is not only about Afghanistan. You are apparently too stupid to put this together. All you had to do was listen.

Shaffer mentions that in 2000 his intel operation was receiving extremely good intel from an a Al Qaeda insider in Kabul. They had actionable intel -- the word that Condy Rice and others in the Bush admin have bandied about

They also had ID Atta and several of the other 9/11 terrorists.

Shaffer mentions that Able Danger was tasked to do a lot more than just data mining. As I mentioned above, it was tasked to 1. identify terrorists, 2. devise a plan to attack them, and 3. get it done. Able Danger was in other words a full bore counter-terrorism operation.

The CIA pulled strings and forced them to abandon their spy in Kabul. Why?

Someone very high up must have felt very threatened by Shaffer's book. Threatened enough to order the entire first edition to be burned. Forget about the Bill of Rights.

The whole business stinks to heaven.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Right. Operation Dark Heart. Thanks for the correction.

The book is not only about Afghanistan. You are apparently too stupid to put this together. All you had to do was listen.

Shaffer mentions that in 2000 his intel operation was receiving extremely good intel from an a Al Qaeda insider in Kabul. They had actionable intel -- the word that Condy Rice and others in the Bush admin have bandied about

They also had ID Atta and several of the other 9/11 terrorists.

Shaffer mentions that Able Danger was tasked to do a lot more than just data mining. As I mentioned above, it was tasked to 1. identify terrorists, 2. devise a plan to attack them, and 3. get it done. Able Danger was in other words a full bore counter-terrorism operation.

The CIA pulled strings and forced them to abandon their spy in Kabul. Why?

Someone very high up must have felt very threatened by Shaffer's book. Threatened enough to order the entire first edition to be burned. Forget about the Bill of Rights.

The whole business stinks to heaven.

You found a soulmate. Another ego who talks about himself in the third person.
Apparently, the Pentagon objected to his naming names and describing specific details of covert operations. Sloppy work by the DOD, but hardly evidence of a cover up of anything other than incompetence.

But you go ahead and make the Troofer connection. The only thing that 'stinks to heaven' is your taking a story about incompetence and claiming it's evidence that 911 was an inside job.

And the book is about his brief stay in Afghanistan in 2003, not 2000. His current interviews are to promote his book, not claim an inside job.

Ignore the possibility that naming names and operational specifics would harm those still doing the work in the field while he collects royalties from the comfort of his home.

You can relate. Leach!!

Steven Aftergood, who directs the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, said the case showed that judgments on what is classified “are often arbitrary and highly subjective.” But in this case, he said, it is possible that D.I.A. reviewers were more knowledgeable than their Army counterparts about damage that disclosures might do.

Mr. Aftergood, who generally advocates open government but has been sharply critical of WikiLeaks, said the government’s move to stop distribution of the book would draw greater attention to the copies already in circulation.

“Operation Dark Heart” is a breezily written, first-person account of Colonel Shaffer’s five months in Afghanistan in 2003, when he was a civilian D.I.A. officer based at Bagram Air Base near Kabul.

But after 2003, Colonel Shaffer was involved in a dispute over his claim that an intelligence program he worked for, code named Able Danger, had identified Mohammed Atta as a terrorist threat before he became the lead hijacker in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. An investigation by the Defense Department’s inspector general later concluded that the claim was inaccurate.

In 2004, after Colonel Shaffer returned from another brief assignment in Afghanistan, D.I.A. officials charged him with violating several agency rules, including claiming excessive expenses for a trip to Fort Dix, N.J. Despite the D.I.A. accusations, which resulted in the revocation of his security clearance, the Army promoted him to lieutenant colonel from major in 2005. He was effectively fired in 2006 by D.I.A., which said he could not stay on without a clearance, and now works at a Washington research group, the Center for Advanced Defense Studies.

Even before the Able Danger imbroglio, Colonel Shaffer admits in his book, he was seen by some at D.I.A. as a risk-taking troublemaker. He describes participating in a midday raid on a telephone facility in Kabul to download the names and numbers of all the cellphone users in the country and proposing an intelligence operation to cross into Pakistan and spy on a Taliban headquarters.

In much of the book, he portrays himself as a brash officer who sometimes ran into resistance from timid superiors.

“A lot of folks at D.I.A. felt that Tony Shaffer thought he could do whatever the hell he wanted,” Mr. Shaffer writes about himself. “They never understood that I was doing things that were so secret that only a few knew about them.”

The book includes some details that typically might be excised during a required security review, including the names of C.I.A. and N.S.A. officers in Afghanistan, casual references to “N.S.A.’s voice surveillance system,” and American spying forays into Pakistan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/10/us/10books.html?_r=1

[mhgaffney]

Brit,

Thanks for posting the link from the NY Times.

No surprise that you swallow the cover story -- now being put out by the Pentagon. You are a typical American. By now you ought to be able to tell when you are being scammed. One would think that when the US military seizes and burns the entire first edition of a book -- it would get your attention --and make you skeptical.

I investigated Able Danger myself back in 2007-2008. Here are the facts.

Lt Col Anthony Shaffer, a 25-year veteran intelligence officer and bronze star winner, was subjected to the sort of hazing and intense personal harassment that you might expect for green recruits - not 25-year veteran officers.

If you have any understanding of the military -- you know this to be the case.

It started after Shaffer contacted Phil Zelikow, the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, in January 2004 in regards to Able Danger.

Until that moment Lt Col Shaffer was a top gun -- on the A-team.

BTW, Shaffer fully cooperated with the US Army - who thoroughly vetted his book and approved it for publication in January 2010.

So -- clearly -- there are high officials who are very very displeased with Shaffer -- and are now attempting to smear him and discredit him. But the old adage is very true. Where there is smoke there is undoubtedly fire.

At issue: who pulled the plug on Able Danger in May 2000? And why?

These are the two big questions that need answers.
MHG

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Brit,

Thanks for posting the link from the NY Times.

I investigated Able Danger myself back in 2007-2008.
MHG

I've seen your investigative work before.

[mhgaffney]

Brit,

I take it that you think 25-year veteran intelligence officer Lt Col Anthony Shaffer is a tin hat for calling the 9/11 Commission Report a cover up?

Ditto for 22-year CIA veteran Michael Scheuer?

Both of whom now agree with me.

Did you even watch the video?