Does anybody believe ? - The Orange Mane

Jetmeck · 10-08-2010, 10:09 AM

We can actually beat the ratbirds ? Every single pundit I have seen or read has picked against us. Sure the run game sucks A$$ , but even I am in awe of the receiving corps and Orton has made me a believer. I try not to be a homer in any way and point it out on this board when homerism (is that a word ?) runs rampant.

I just don't believe the ratbirds secondary without ED Reed can hold up and our line who is enept at run blocking seems to be getting better at pass blocking each game.

Quick slants and screens should be employed frequently to burn their pass rush down !

Seriously this contest is now where nearly as one sided as the so-called experts have made it out to be !

Rock Chalk · 10-08-2010, 10:10 AM

I'm really not all that confident.

We can but it won't be easy and it's improbably IMO. Without some sort of balance it's going to be a long day.

baja · 10-08-2010, 10:10 AM

Please stop with the big ass pictures that skew the display

gyldenlove · 10-08-2010, 10:10 AM

I think we have a shot, they don't seem as good as they have been in recent years and we are a team that can put the hurt on anyone if we hit the right day and get some solid red zone offense, we tend to get into the red zone a lot.

bronco militia · 10-08-2010, 10:11 AM

I always say never say never, but I don't see any reason to believe the broncos will win this game

gyldenlove · 10-08-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Please stop with the big ass pictures that skew the display

But please feel free to post pictures of big asses.

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 10-08-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Please stop with the big ass pictures that skew the display

Better neg rep him.

As for the game, I think there's a shot we beat them, but we've never won in that barn before, so I wonder if we can pull it off.

Popps · 10-08-2010, 10:12 AM

As I recall, the game last year wasn't close... but we really killed ourselves with a couple of special teams FU's. It could have been much closer.

We've moved the ball well against every team we've played this year, and our defense has shown some improvement in the past couple of games.

The Ravens are tough and solid, top to bottom. But, I think it's a game we can stay in if we don't allow big ST's plays. They're not explosive, they're just grinding.

I'd like to see us keep this game close into the 4th quarter and then pour it on. We just can't come out and get down to a physical team like this, or they'll run all over us.

Yea, I believe we can win... but I always believe that. I'm a homer.

snowspot66 · 10-08-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

As I recall, the game last year wasn't close... but we really killed ourselves with a couple of special teams FU's. It could have been much closer.

We've moved the ball well against every team we've played this year, and our defense has shown some improvement in the past couple of games.

The Ravens are tough and solid, top to bottom. But, I think it's a game we can stay in if we don't allow big ST's plays. They're not explosive, they're just grinding.

I'd like to see us keep this game close into the 4th quarter and then pour it on. We just can't come out and get down to a physical team like this, or they'll run all over us.

Yea, I believe we can win... but I always believe that. I'm a homer.

It actually was pretty close until late in the game last year. It just didn't seem that way because we didn't do anything on offense.

I think we have a real shot at it.

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-08-2010, 10:17 AM

Its unlikely, but we have a shot...its not like the Ravens are playing amazing football right now either.

Los Broncos · 10-08-2010, 10:19 AM

I do, we will kick their ass.

crush17 · 10-08-2010, 10:23 AM

Broncos: -7
Ravens: 105

outdoor_miner · 10-08-2010, 10:27 AM

I feel pretty much identical to how I felt against Tennesse... I think the Broncos match up better with this type of team than they do the Colts, and I see no reason to think the Broncos should be murdered (well - unless Ray Lewis' homies show up). This team needs to learn how to win close games, and not shoot themselves in the foot. If we limit mistakes, we will be in the game, and then anything can happen (as we saw last week). I would really like to see us win one of the next two, with both games being competitive. If that happens - I will be really optimistic for the stretch run.

Kaylore · 10-08-2010, 10:30 AM

I don't. I've heard good reasons why we do. However back to back road games on the east against physical teams in a place we haven't ever won with no run game? I fully expect to lose. I hope we don't and I'll be pulling for the upset, but I expect to lose by around 9 to 10 points. I've been right on my predictions all year, so maybe I'll be wrong on this one.

Mr.Meanie · 10-08-2010, 10:30 AM

They are beatable. I think they believe their own hype that they are better than they really are.

That said, I don't know if we have quite the team to beat them yet. If we pull this one off it would be HUGE, and it would shock everyone I think.

broncofan2438 · 10-08-2010, 10:32 AM

I do feel confident about this game. Say what you want but yes having Ed Reeeeeed out is going to help us. He was quite the disruption last year and I believe MCD can exploit that weakness. For some strange feeling I think our running game might come around this Sunday. Watch. Defense will continue to play strong and I believe we come out with a W this Sunday.

lostknight · 10-08-2010, 10:34 AM

Actually, I think this game matches up for us a lot better then people say. The Ravens have a dicey secondary, and we have the best passing system in the league. Keep using Eddie, and dare I say, Decker on short bubble screens with speed to keep defenders honest, and use D.T and Lloyd to stretch the field.

On defense, our defense is average, but pretty good at stopping the main threat. Clamp down on Rice hard, keep five men in the box, and let Champ, Cox and company keep the Ravens receivers in check.

Score: Broncos 17, Ravens 10.

Smiling Assassin27 · 10-08-2010, 10:39 AM

27-24 Broncos. Both qb's throw for 300+.

loborugger · 10-08-2010, 10:52 AM

The one thing we have going for us is that while our running game is terrible, our passing game is our strength. The secondary is their achilles right now. Throw in a good game from our special teams (a stretch), and win the turn over battle (not a huge stretch as Orton is not a TO machine), and Denver could come outta B-more with a win. However, the smart money is on Maryland Magpies.

chawknz · 10-08-2010, 10:55 AM

Anything can happen, but I am expecting a loss.

dsmoot · 10-08-2010, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

We can actually beat the ratbirds ? Every single pundit I have seen or read has picked against us. Sure the run game sucks A$$ , but even I am in awe of the receiving corps and Orton has made me a believer. I try not to be a homer in any way and point it out on this board when homerism (is that a word ?) runs rampant.

I just don't believe the ratbirds secondary without ED Reed can hold up and our line who is enept at run blocking seems to be getting better at pass blocking each game.

Quick slants and screens should be employed frequently to burn their pass rush down !

Seriously this contest is now where nearly as one sided as the so-called experts have made it out to be !

In the past, I have watched Denver wilt under the physical play of the Ravens even when the Broncos had a more balanced offense. I have never seen Denver match Baltimore in that area regardless of the Bronco talent. It was like watching the school bully come take a kids lunch money away.

This is exactly like it was in the early 70's with Oakland. The bully comes to town and the home team wilts. Finally, the Orange Crush Defense came along, matched Oaklands physical style and things changed. That is exactly where the Tom Jackson "fat man" comment came from.

Until Denver can match the Ravens physical play, I will not believe they can win more than 20% of the time. Their defense will find a way to nuetralize the passing game (QB pressures) and call our bluff on the running game.

Dedhed · 10-08-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Every single pundit I have seen or read has picked against us.

This is precisely why I think we have a chance.

Rohirrim · 10-08-2010, 11:36 AM

The Ratbirds are coming off a close, tough, emotional, road win in their own conference. Will they rise to the occasion against the Broncos? The Broncos are coming off a big road win that proved to them that they can play physical and win, even when everything doesn't work like it's designed. Football games can be won on emotion. I definitely think the Broncos can win this, especially if they stick with the three step drop, use the hurry up some, and use a lot of multiple receiver sets. Burn them through the air with speed and relentless pressure. The Ratbirds worked hard in Pittsburgh last week. Work them harder this week.

wyobronco · 10-08-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

...Every single pundit I have seen or read has picked against us.

Which pundits picked Denver over Tennessee? If all three phases show up, Denver can beat anyone. If one phase stays home, Denver can lose to anyone, especially on the road.

gunns · 10-08-2010, 11:44 AM

I don't think we can, mainly because of the offense and no running game. I think we're too one dimensional for a defense like the Ravens and they happen to be very good against the one bright spot on the Broncos, passing. If we are going to have any chance I think it's up to our defense which played very well against the Titans. I don't know that Flacco is going to present a huge problem but they are at home and that often can pump even a bad player up. Hopefully Rice is slightly hobbled. Limit everything they do on offense. But I do agree, if all the pundits are saying we can't, there's a very good chance we can.

10-08-2010, 10:09 AM	#1
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,385	Does anybody believe ? We can actually beat the ratbirds ? Every single pundit I have seen or read has picked against us. Sure the run game sucks A$$ , but even I am in awe of the receiving corps and Orton has made me a believer. I try not to be a homer in any way and point it out on this board when homerism (is that a word ?) runs rampant. I just don't believe the ratbirds secondary without ED Reed can hold up and our line who is enept at run blocking seems to be getting better at pass blocking each game. Quick slants and screens should be employed frequently to burn their pass rush down ! Seriously this contest is now where nearly as one sided as the so-called experts have made it out to be !

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10-08-2010, 10:10 AM	#2
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I'm really not all that confident. We can but it won't be easy and it's improbably IMO. Without some sort of balance it's going to be a long day.

10-08-2010, 10:10 AM	#3
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,906 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Please stop with the big ass pictures that skew the display

10-08-2010, 10:10 AM	#4
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,034 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	I think we have a shot, they don't seem as good as they have been in recent years and we are a team that can put the hurt on anyone if we hit the right day and get some solid red zone offense, we tend to get into the red zone a lot.

10-08-2010, 10:11 AM	#5
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	I always say never say never, but I don't see any reason to believe the broncos will win this game

10-08-2010, 10:12 AM	#8
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	As I recall, the game last year wasn't close... but we really killed ourselves with a couple of special teams FU's. It could have been much closer. We've moved the ball well against every team we've played this year, and our defense has shown some improvement in the past couple of games. The Ravens are tough and solid, top to bottom. But, I think it's a game we can stay in if we don't allow big ST's plays. They're not explosive, they're just grinding. I'd like to see us keep this game close into the 4th quarter and then pour it on. We just can't come out and get down to a physical team like this, or they'll run all over us. Yea, I believe we can win... but I always believe that. I'm a homer.

10-08-2010, 10:17 AM	#10
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,228 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	Its unlikely, but we have a shot...its not like the Ravens are playing amazing football right now either.

10-08-2010, 10:19 AM	#11
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	I do, we will kick their ass.

10-08-2010, 10:23 AM	#12
crush17 orange & blue Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 2,662 Adopt-a-Bronco: DT88	Broncos: -7 Ravens: 105

10-08-2010, 10:27 AM	#13
outdoor_miner Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,098 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I feel pretty much identical to how I felt against Tennesse... I think the Broncos match up better with this type of team than they do the Colts, and I see no reason to think the Broncos should be murdered (well - unless Ray Lewis' homies show up). This team needs to learn how to win close games, and not shoot themselves in the foot. If we limit mistakes, we will be in the game, and then anything can happen (as we saw last week). I would really like to see us win one of the next two, with both games being competitive. If that happens - I will be really optimistic for the stretch run.

10-08-2010, 10:30 AM	#14
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,061 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I don't. I've heard good reasons why we do. However back to back road games on the east against physical teams in a place we haven't ever won with no run game? I fully expect to lose. I hope we don't and I'll be pulling for the upset, but I expect to lose by around 9 to 10 points. I've been right on my predictions all year, so maybe I'll be wrong on this one.

10-08-2010, 10:30 AM	#15
Mr.Meanie Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,590 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	They are beatable. I think they believe their own hype that they are better than they really are. That said, I don't know if we have quite the team to beat them yet. If we pull this one off it would be HUGE, and it would shock everyone I think.

10-08-2010, 10:32 AM	#16
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	I do feel confident about this game. Say what you want but yes having Ed Reeeeeed out is going to help us. He was quite the disruption last year and I believe MCD can exploit that weakness. For some strange feeling I think our running game might come around this Sunday. Watch. Defense will continue to play strong and I believe we come out with a W this Sunday.

10-08-2010, 10:34 AM	#17
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Actually, I think this game matches up for us a lot better then people say. The Ravens have a dicey secondary, and we have the best passing system in the league. Keep using Eddie, and dare I say, Decker on short bubble screens with speed to keep defenders honest, and use D.T and Lloyd to stretch the field. On defense, our defense is average, but pretty good at stopping the main threat. Clamp down on Rice hard, keep five men in the box, and let Champ, Cox and company keep the Ravens receivers in check. Score: Broncos 17, Ravens 10.

10-08-2010, 10:39 AM	#18
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,978 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	27-24 Broncos. Both qb's throw for 300+.

10-08-2010, 10:52 AM	#19
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	The one thing we have going for us is that while our running game is terrible, our passing game is our strength. The secondary is their achilles right now. Throw in a good game from our special teams (a stretch), and win the turn over battle (not a huge stretch as Orton is not a TO machine), and Denver could come outta B-more with a win. However, the smart money is on Maryland Magpies.

10-08-2010, 10:55 AM	#20
chawknz Perennial Pro-bowler Hey now! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 923 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	Anything can happen, but I am expecting a loss.

10-08-2010, 11:36 AM	#23
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,843	The Ratbirds are coming off a close, tough, emotional, road win in their own conference. Will they rise to the occasion against the Broncos? The Broncos are coming off a big road win that proved to them that they can play physical and win, even when everything doesn't work like it's designed. Football games can be won on emotion. I definitely think the Broncos can win this, especially if they stick with the three step drop, use the hurry up some, and use a lot of multiple receiver sets. Burn them through the air with speed and relentless pressure. The Ratbirds worked hard in Pittsburgh last week. Work them harder this week.

10-08-2010, 11:44 AM	#25
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,660 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	I don't think we can, mainly because of the offense and no running game. I think we're too one dimensional for a defense like the Ravens and they happen to be very good against the one bright spot on the Broncos, passing. If we are going to have any chance I think it's up to our defense which played very well against the Titans. I don't know that Flacco is going to present a huge problem but they are at home and that often can pump even a bad player up. Hopefully Rice is slightly hobbled. Limit everything they do on offense. But I do agree, if all the pundits are saying we can't, there's a very good chance we can.