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Old 10-04-2010, 12:30 PM   #1
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Default the tim tebow issue: week 5

kyle orton is playing like a top 5 QB in the NFL right now. hes a denver bronco in 2011 as well. if he keeps up this record of play all year, and into next year...do you just let him walk for a guy whos never played before?


people say its a good situation to have, but its not. you risk losing a guy whos playing at a pro bowl level and is literally the most important person on this team for someone whos the got the potential to be one of the best, but is unknown. say tebow does get the nod, does he go in during the '11 season to get real NFL experience? does he play this year if we get a blowout game sometime?
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:32 PM   #2
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Brees/Rivers?

If Orton keeps this up, I don't see how you can let the guy walk.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:36 PM   #3
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Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for three years. Wouldn't bother me if Tebow did the same. And if Tebow is a quality backup for six years behind a Pro Bowl-level Orton, I could live with that as well. This discussion is best had in the 2012 training camp.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:36 PM   #4
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Then Tebow stays on the bench. It's not hard to figure out.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:37 PM   #5
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What a terrible situation to be in, other teams are probably laughing at the Broncos.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:38 PM   #6
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there is no tebow issue until Ortons hits the wall or gets injured. The one year extension was a safe/easy play from the Front office.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:38 PM   #7
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Brees/Rivers?

If Orton keeps this up, I don't see how you can let the guy walk.
Bingo.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:39 PM   #8
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If Orton is playing well, then Tebow has to sit.
It's a good situation to be in.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:40 PM   #9
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Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for three years. Wouldn't bother me if Tebow did the same. And if Tebow is a quality backup for six years behind a Pro Bowl-level Orton, I could live with that as well. This discussion is best had in the 2012 training camp.
This.

Tebow is in a great situation. He can be fully developed by the time he starts.

There has been a lot of comparison of Tebow to Steve Young.

If this success continues, Tebow can be our Young to Orton's Montana.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:46 PM   #10
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Every expert out there thought Tebow would really benefit from being the #2 for a couple seasons before taking the reigns. Now, it looks like we might have that luxury.

What's the issue?
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:50 PM   #11
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Tebow should just become a QB sneak specialist.
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Come to think of it....

They criticized Montana for a dink-and-dunk style and inability to throw down field. Just like Orton. He ignored them and did it anyway. Just like Orton. Now all we need is some Super Bowls.

On the other side, Young was a left-handed, bruising runner from a conservative religious family with raw skills that were honed over several years. Sound familiar?

The Broncos of the 2010's will be the 49ers of the 90's

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Come to think of it....

They criticized Montana for a dink-and-dunk style and inability to throw down field. Just like Orton. He ignored them and did it anyway. Just like Orton. Now all we need is some Super Bowls.

On the other side, Young was a left-handed, bruising runner from a conservative religious family with raw skills that were honed over several years. Sound familiar?

The Broncos of the 2010's will be the 49ers of the 90's



that would be awesome if true though...
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:58 PM   #14
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Come to think of it....

They criticized Montana for a dink-and-dunk style and inability to throw down field. Just like Orton. He ignored them and did it anyway. Just like Orton. Now all we need is some Super Bowls.

On the other side, Young was a left-handed, bruising runner from a conservative religious family with raw skills that were honed over several years. Sound familiar?

The Broncos of the 2010's will be the 49ers of the 90's

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Old 10-04-2010, 12:59 PM   #15
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Let's see if Orton can even stay upright behind this line before we start annointing him as a top 5 QB. Orton is playing well inside a system meant to fit him, but as an offensive coach McDaniels is intrigued with the idea of a guy who can not just fit in the system but make plays on his own. At some point Tebow is on the field and don't rule next year out just because I wouldn't bet against him.

Having said that, him sitting and watching is the ideal situation here. He's been nearly anonomous lately, which is probably good for him and the team at this point.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:00 PM   #16
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I don't think anyone is anointing Orton anything. He is doing it all by himself, and nobody can argue that with 25% of the season over he is a top 5 QB this year.
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This "dink and dunk" **** people are always complaining about is the West Coast Offense and it's won more Super Bowls than probably any offensive system.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:03 PM   #18
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:05 PM   #19
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Then Tebow stays on the bench. It's not hard to figure out.
The issue isn't so much with Tebow as it is with Orton. In the next two years, the Broncos are going to improve their roster and inch closer to being contenders. Assuming Orton continues to play well, at the end of the 2011 season you're going to have several options that will pivotal to the franchise:

  • Let Orton walk and hand the keys to Tebow. Obviously with total uncertainty as to how he's going to perform. Probably the biggest gamble of all the options, especially if the Broncos continue to improve on the whole. And who knows who would sign him? You don't think the Chiefs or Raiders wish they had him right now?
  • Give Orton a mega-deal. He'll be almost 30, but will have proven he can run the offense. Tebow will still be young enough that he can take over at some point, but that's a lot of cash wrapped up in your starting QB and backup. Could also trade Tebow under this scenario, but I seriously doubt you recoup the 1st round pick you invested in him.
  • Franchise Orton (assuming there is a franchise tag). I would assume even Orton might be a little miffed having to work on a series of one year deals after performing well for 3 solid years in the offense. But assuming the Broncos are a solid team in 2012 and coming off a playoff appearance (if there are no playoffs in 2011 McDaniels might very well be gone anyway), you can either continue to start Orton or see what you have in Tebow with Orton as insurance.
  • Trade Orton and give the keys to Tebow. Again, a major gamble if you're a good team, but if they're comfortable with rolling the dice with Tebow who knows at that point how much Orton could be worth on the open market? Maybe they can trade him to Chicago for 2 1sts.

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Come to think of it....

They criticized Montana for a dink-and-dunk style and inability to throw down field. Just like Orton. He ignored them and did it anyway. Just like Orton. Now all we need is some Super Bowls.

On the other side, Young was a left-handed, bruising runner from a conservative religious family with raw skills that were honed over several years. Sound familiar?

The Broncos of the 2010's will be the 49ers of the 90's

If true we really need Rodger Craig and a TE....
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:06 PM   #21
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Why is this an issue? The only way Tebow sees the field this year or next year is if Orton gets badly injured.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:14 PM   #22
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Denver has 99 problems but a QB is not one...

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What a terrible situation to be in, other teams are probably laughing at the Broncos.
I tried to top this, but I got nothin.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:19 PM   #24
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This thread is stupid. Why would we ever get rid of our spiritual leader to keep our quarterback? Did someone make this a zero-sum game, without telling me?
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:26 PM   #25
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Why is this an issue? The only way Tebow sees the field this year or next year is if Orton gets badly injured.
Maybe I'm being a fatalist here, but I'm a bit worried about Ray Lewis and the rest of the thugs on that Team-if they hurt Orton are you comfortable with Quinn or Tebow in there? I'm not yet-
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