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Old 09-22-2010, 02:06 PM   #1
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Despite contract terms with more than one team, no Vincent Jackson trade

Posted by Mike Florio on September 22, 2010 4:03 PM ET

The deadline for trading receiver Vincent Jackson has come and gone, and the player remains the property of the Chargers.

Agent Neil Schwartz tells us that he had worked out with more than one team an acceptable contract for Jackson, and that the deal did not get done.

Schwartz blames the lack of a deal on the Chargers' demands.

"Other General Managers felt that the Chargers were being totally unreasonable," Schwartz told us by phone.

"Archie Manning had it right about this organization," Schwartz said.

UPDATE: Schwartz's partner, Jonathan Feinsod, offered up a similar quote to ESPN's Adam Schefter. "Archie Manning had it right," Feinsod said. "They call [G.M. A.J. Smith] the Lord of No Rings for a reason."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...jackson-trade/
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:09 PM   #2
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What a surprise, an agent\player tries to hold a team hostage and for a change the team stands up to the prima donna. Glad to hear it.

And resorting to personal attacks, that's professional. Sounds like the agent is pretty bitter...their plan backfired!
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bah Humbug... V.J. and the media are acting like scorned lovers. Fact is V.J. has no power in his current contract and he took a huge gamble and lost.

Not sure why everyone wants to dump on Smith. He's the guy who built the current team (a very talented team) and V.J. is the dummy who played russian roulette and lost...
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"We had multiple offers and the Chargers squashed them all," Jonathan Feinsod, one of Jackson's agents, said.

The Minnesota Vikings were willing to give up a second-round draft choice and an additional conditional pick to the Chargers, a source said. Another source said Jackson had even worked out a financial package with the Vikings.
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Wow. Schwartz must be real butt-hurt to go off and make those kind of comments!

Should have signed the tender, dummy.
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I think I would have taken a 2 and some change from Minnesota and been rid of the distraction.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if a CBA is agreed between now and 2011, V-Jax is a UFA so he'll walk for nothing if they dont trade him. TBH if a player is finished with his team I'd rather get something in return rather than zero.
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As long as he doesn't play for the Chargers then I'm happy. The longer they wait the less compensation they'll get.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if a CBA is agreed between now and 2011, V-Jax is a UFA so he'll walk for nothing if they dont trade him. TBH if a player is finished with his team I'd rather get something in return rather than zero.
I think that is a huge assumption. Since no new CBA has been agreed to, how can you determine anything about current contracts?

Owners can negotiate grandfathered in contracts no? That is, all current contracts remain as is, all future contracts negotiated are under the new CBA rules...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if a CBA is agreed between now and 2011, V-Jax is a UFA so he'll walk for nothing if they dont trade him. TBH if a player is finished with his team I'd rather get something in return rather than zero.
They'll get a comp pick depending on the value of VJ's new deal with his new team...
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I think that is a huge assumption. Since no new CBA has been agreed to, how can you determine anything about current contracts?
Owners can negotiate grandfathered in contracts no? That is, all current contracts remain as is, all future contracts negotiated are under the new CBA rules...
NFL rules determine that, I dont. If there's no CBA players like Jackson retain the same status they had this year until they have 6 accredited seasons under their belt, but that is regardless anyway because if there's no CBA there'll be no football in 2011. Which means a player like Jackson might not play a down for 2 seasons.
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They'll get a comp pick depending on the value of VJ's new deal with his new team...
You'd only get that though if you have a surplus of free agents leaving rather than signing for you regardless of his deal.
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NFL rules determine that, I dont. If there's no CBA players like Jackson retain the same status they had this year until they have 6 accredited seasons under their belt, but that is regardless anyway because if there's no CBA there'll be no football in 2011. Which means a player like Jackson might not play a down for 2 seasons.
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For a minute I thought this was a thread dedicated to Dan Marino.
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Oh, I thought this was a LeBron James thread. Carry on.
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AJ is also the guy who so badly needs to be THE man that he brought in a coach who can't win the big game but who will always always always defer to him.
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For a minute I thought this was a thread dedicated to Dan Marino.
Even Dan has something he can hold over AJ...that is the trip to the super bowl...or the play off wins.
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You'd only get that though if you have a surplus of free agents leaving rather than signing for you regardless of his deal.
And it couldn't be higher than a 3rd
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What a surprise, an agent\player tries to hold a team hostage and for a change the team stands up to the prima donna. Glad to hear it.

And resorting to personal attacks, that's professional. Sounds like the agent is pretty bitter...their plan backfired!
Yeah the Billionaire's are so innocent and the Millionaire's are the enemy. Lord of No Rings is AWESOME!

VJ is guilty too but that douche GM is the bigger problem.
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Yeah the Billionaire's are so innocent and the Millionaire's are the enemy. Lord of No Rings is AWESOME!

VJ is guilty too but that douche GM is the bigger problem.
The sad thing is if VJ hadn't of gotten those multiple DUIs as well as getting arrested the day of the playoff game, he probably would have been in the Chargers' long term plans...
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The sad thing is if VJ hadn't of gotten those multiple DUIs as well as getting arrested the day of the playoff game, he probably would have been in the Chargers' long term plans...
That is a very valid point. But my point is if things were sour and not in long term plans then why did Chargers dick around with him then.
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