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Old 09-15-2010, 07:12 PM   #1
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Default Any thoughts on AJ Hawk?

I have to give credit to 80smith for the thought:

Hawk wants a trade he would be an instant upgrade to Haggan in the middle and it looks like he can play ST's which might prevent teams from starting on the 45 after every kickoff. I know our trade ammo is low and we don't have a RB to send with a pick but found it an intriguing prospect especially since Hunter was pulled off the scrap heap one week before the season started.



The agent for Packers ILB AJ Hawk told the Green Bay Press-Gazette that his client would be open to a trade.

"If some team called and wanted him to play on all three downs, I think he'd be excited about that," said agent Mike McCartney. McCartney did say Hawk's "first priority is to be the best Packer he can," but Hawk didn't even play a non-special teams snap in the opener. The Bills did just lose ILB Paul Posluszny, and Green Bay needs a running back. Unfortunately, Hawk's massive base salaries make a straight-up trade for Marshawn Lynch impossible.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:18 PM   #2
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Well...He is married to Brady Quinn's sister...

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Ayers, Doom, Hawk, Haggan (Hunter) with Moss on 3rd down would be nice tandem and lights out when Doom comes back.
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If the Broncos are interested, and have something Greenbay wants...I suppose I'd be alright with it. But does AJ want to play in a 3-4?


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Ayers, Doom, Hawk, Haggan (Hunter) with Moss on 3rd down would be nice tandem and lights out when Doom comes back.
Doom - Hawk - DJ - Ayers would be pretty nice. Would let us spend high picks on D-Line rather than an ILB too.
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If the Broncos are interested, and have something Greenbay wants...I suppose I'd be alright with it. But does AJ want to play in a 3-4?


Green bay plays a 3-4
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Green bay plays a 3-4

Yes I know. Is it a system he wants to continue playing in? Why didnt he play sunday?


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I'm not so sure he's that much of an improvement on Haggan. They seem like similar players, but Hawk would require trade compensation and, I don't know, 5 times what Haggan is making.
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Doom - Hawk - DJ - Ayers would be pretty nice. Would let us spend high picks on D-Line rather than an ILB too.
Yep, Haggan would be hardpressed to start anywhere else, Hawk would be a great upgrade and we will need his run support this year. Your right we could then focus on DL and OL depth next year with what picks we have left over.

I think it would come down to $ but I am sure they could make it work with what picks we have or a goofy 3 team deal.
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Hawk is only in packages with 4 linebackers ...

He didn't play a down on defense on Sunday because GB only played nickel and dime packages that day.

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I'm not so sure he's that much of an improvement on Haggan. They seem like similar players, but Hawk would require trade compensation and, I don't know, 5 times what Haggan is making.
Yes, Hawk is making 4 million this year... I think it's a 1 year contract too.
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Yes I know. Is it a system he wants to continue playing in? Why didnt he play sunday?



Packers linebacker Clay Matthews shook off his inactive preseason like he shook off Eagles blockers Sunday, leading the Green Bay defense during a superlative defense.

Matthews finished with two sacks, a forced fumble, and seven tackles, including the game-clinching stuff of Michael Vick.

"There's a lot of rust I need to shake off. It was a good way to start the season, let's just leave it at that," Mathews said after the game.

While the team's 2009 first-round pick built off his fabulous rookie season, the No. 5 overall pick didn't play a single snap on defense. A.J. Hawk only plays in Green Bay's base defense. Since the Packers played in their nickel or dime packages all day, Hawk only played on special teams.

Hawk's lack of a role on passing downs is nothing new. But it still says something when a guy making $4.6 million doesn't play a snap on defense all day.

It also says we should probably change our definition of what's a "base defense" in today's NFL.
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Packers linebacker Clay Matthews shook off his inactive preseason like he shook off Eagles blockers Sunday, leading the Green Bay defense during a superlative defense.

Matthews finished with two sacks, a forced fumble, and seven tackles, including the game-clinching stuff of Michael Vick.

"There's a lot of rust I need to shake off. It was a good way to start the season, let's just leave it at that," Mathews said after the game.

While the team's 2009 first-round pick built off his fabulous rookie season, the No. 5 overall pick didn't play a single snap on defense. A.J. Hawk only plays in Green Bay's base defense. Since the Packers played in their nickel or dime packages all day, Hawk only played on special teams.

Hawk's lack of a role on passing downs is nothing new. But it still says something when a guy making $4.6 million doesn't play a snap on defense all day.

It also says we should probably change our definition of what's a "base defense" in today's NFL.

Can he play 3 downs or is he that big of a liability in coverage?

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No thanks. He's a nice player but we're not going to do much this year anyway. Might as well save the money and use it to sign a 1st round ILB in the draft next year.
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Yes, Hawk is making 4 million this year... I think it's a 1 year contract too.
They could work out a long term deal for him, GB might be happy with a low to mid pick (if we have any left) that they could use to get a RB this year to replace Grant.
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Wonder if they have any interest in an underachieving ex-pat RB.
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Can he play 3 downs or is he that big of a liability in coverage?

I think he is much better in run support and not so good in coverage but Haggan isn't that great in coverage either. With Champ, Hill, Dawkins, Goodman I would rather have a run support ILB than a coverage guy, Plus hawk can get to the QB, Hagan has 3 sacks in a 7 year career and had his highest tackle total last year with 45, he only has 121 tackles in 7 years.

It is desperation time, the Hunter pickup and cuts on D 2 weeks ago prove it.
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so everyone has given up on Haggan after 1 game this season?

Also, why is Hawk on the trading block in the first place?
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so everyone has given up on Haggan after 1 game this season?

Also, why is Hawk on the trading block in the first place?
Didn't you see that one guy was faster than him and he caught the ball and stuff.
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