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Old 09-13-2010, 11:04 AM   #1
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Count me in as being off the Matt Ryan Bandwagon.

I think Cutler is a better QB than Ryan.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:13 AM   #2
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Now this thread has potential. There are a lot of big-time Ryan fans here for some reason. IMO - he got way too much credit for his rookie year....where he really didn't do a heck of a lot (and didn't have to) because of the running game and supporting cast. Reminds me of Sanchez last year to some extent.....though not as turnover prone.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:15 AM   #3
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Well, this begs the question - what happened to Michael Turner?
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:16 AM   #4
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when you have michael turner in his prime lighting people up, you will have a great year. now that people know matt ryan, hes average. shows just how hard it is to find a great QB, when did the last one come out? sanchez is in same boat, not great, maybe top 20 and i think thats all he will ever be.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:16 AM   #5
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You lost me at Cutler is better.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:25 AM   #6
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Agree. Ryan is overrated and has gotten a free pass from the media.
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he is no Brian Griese
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:31 AM   #8
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He wasn't that good at Boston College folding in every Championship game they played.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:39 AM   #9
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he is no Brian Griese
Speaking of Griese, I thought he was pretty good on KOA.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:57 AM   #10
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I'm not a Ryan fan, but not many QB's look good playing in Pittsburgh on opening night.
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:24 PM   #11
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yep, its always the same. The media gets its crushes without taking into account all the aspects of the game.

ryan
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any raiders player or the team.
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:29 PM   #12
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Matt Ryan is legit. No world beater yet, but plenty of upside. Pitt's defense eats up QB's (See Orton's 50 QB rating during pre-season)
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:34 PM   #13
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He's just alright, but that does make him better than Cutler.
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As a Falcons fan living in Atlanta (I like the Broncos too, obviously)...I have to agree with you. Matt Ryan has severely disappointed me since his rookie year. I was 100% against drafting Matt Ryan with the third pick (I wanted McFadden, I know, I was wrong there too.) I was at the Georgia Dome for Ryan's first game against the Lions and was ecstatic with the way he played, including his first pass for a touchdown.

But now it's getting to the point where it feels like the same ol' Falcons. The defense impressed me to an extent and definitely played well enough to win, but Roddy White said it best: the offense let the defense down. That falls squarely on Ryan's shoulders. I rooted for him after we drafted him and after his great rookie season, but that was 2 years ago. All I heard about this offseason is how he studied his ass off to get better and watched what the other great quarterbacks were doing, but then fell flat on opening day.

I've seen every game Matt Ryan has played in and people talking about how he has regressed are just wrong. He hasn't gotten worse, he just hasn't gotten any better and defenses have tape on him now so he looks worse.
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:49 PM   #15
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I will get on the Sam Bradford bandwagon...... the kid can play
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Old 09-13-2010, 03:01 PM   #16
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Count me in as being off the Matt Ryan Bandwagon.

I think Cutler is a better QB than Ryan.
Cutler has always been better than Ryan, he is better than Flacco as well.

Cutler will emerge this year, crap OL be damned
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Old 09-13-2010, 04:41 PM   #17
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Well, this begs the question - what happened to Michael Turner?
He was a bit out of shape/overweight last year and he just seemed sluggish. Though he started to really turn it on until he got injured.

Supposedly he's leaner this year but going up against Pittsburgh's defense will make a lot of good players look average.
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Old 09-13-2010, 04:50 PM   #18
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I'm not a Ryan fan, but not many QB's look good playing in Pittsburgh on opening night.
I consider how a QB plays in an opening game to be indicative of how they respond to high pressure games (ie. post season). When you have a quarterback who chokes in week one, but then calms down as the season progresses, there's a good chance that once the games start to really "count," that guy is going to tighten up and choke again.
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You lost me at Cutler is better.
He essentially just said Matt Ryan couldn't cut it as a back up in the Canadian League.
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Old 09-13-2010, 05:29 PM   #20
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This isn't good for me. He and Orton are my backups, depending on which threads I choose to read I have two guys circling the drain.
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Old 09-13-2010, 05:35 PM   #21
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Ryan is a rich man's Kyle Orton...
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I consider how a QB plays in an opening game to be indicative of how they respond to high pressure games (ie. post season). When you have a quarterback who chokes in week one, but then calms down as the season progresses, there's a good chance that once the games start to really "count," that guy is going to tighten up and choke again.
Is this serious? With how right you are with your football takes, I think you need to order "chicken salad, on rye, untoasted, with potato salad"...
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Old 09-13-2010, 05:54 PM   #23
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Is this serious? With how right you are with your football takes, I think you need to order "chicken salad, on rye, untoasted, with potato salad"...

Let's put it to the test. Name a playoff choker, and let's compare their post season performance to their Week 1 performances.

I can tell you where I got the notion from: I found this correlation when researching stats for Jake Plummer. Throughout his career (in both Denver and Arizona), Jake's week one performances were statistically bad, just like his career post-season performances.

I wouldn't exactly call it science unless it was clearly repeatable, but it's good enough anecdotally as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:02 PM   #24
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I will get on the Sam Bradford bandwagon...... the kid can play
Yes he can. I was totally wrong about him. Felt bad for St. Louis yesterday, losing at the end.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:04 PM   #25
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Let's put it to the test. Name a playoff choker, and let's compare their post season performance to their Week 1 performances.

I can tell you where I got the notion from: I found this correlation when researching stats for Jake Plummer. Throughout his career (in both Denver and Arizona), Jake's week one performances were statistically bad, just like his career post-season performances.

I wouldn't exactly call it science unless it was clearly repeatable, but it's good enough anecdotally as far as I'm concerned.
How about I go the opposite, I'll name someone who crapped the bed, then had a good season and then won the Superbowl...

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Tom Brady, who replaced Bledsoe as the Patriots' starter in 2001, had an abysmal outing. He finished 14-of-29 for 123 yards and was intercepted four times, tying a career high; he also suffered four against Denver in 2001.
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