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Old 08-10-2010, 09:44 PM   #1
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So there's been a lot of jokes about Tebow's divinity. I can see why some would take offense to this as I am a religious man myself. However I have also noticed some weird suggestions. Mainly that in wrongfully suggesting that Tim Tebow is the son of God (really aren't we all God's children? I digress) God himself has chosen to smite this team with injuries.

I'm sorry, but are we being serious here? Let's assume for a moment that this is indeed blasphemy, and let's assume that God is so angry about this blaspheming (is that a verb?) that he wants to do something about it. Do you people really believe that to avenge himself and his good name against the various dorks (including myself) typing behind a computer that he smote Elvis' Pectoral muscle? You really believe that because someone online substituted Tebow's name for God's in "oh my Tebow" (By the way, "Oh, my God" is blasphemy in it's own right, hence the use of "gosh" as a substitute. Are we "gosh" users to be likewise smitten because of idolatry for falsely worshiping the idol of gosh instead of God?") that because of this name change, the Lord has chosen to part Moreno's hammy like the red sea?

I have my own beliefs, and I try and respect everyone's. However I find it difficult to believe that this idea of God punishing a player for something someone wrote on a message board is kosher in any religion. Mind you, I'm not advocating blasphemy here, and I am not saying God is or isn't pleased with Tebow worship. However I don't believe there are any grounds for this idea that doing so will cause bad luck and injuries to befall the players - other human beings who are not in any way connected to the issue.

Maybe a good starting point would be to think about how misplaced our focus is in thinking this. If we want the Broncos to win so badly that we believe he punishes us personally for our unrighteousness by causing harm to the team, isn't that a sign of idolatry? We're wrongly assuming that God's dealings with other people are conditioned on our personal sins, which does not in any way jive with the major religions of the world.

Or maybe more obviously, we're letting football become our new idol believing God cares as much about it as we do.

I think it's good to take a stand on defending God's name and asking everyone to be respectful of everyone's beliefs. But telling someone their sins are causing other people to get physically injured sounds more like voodoo than anything I will go hear on any given Sunday.

So please, stop saying that.
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:01 PM   #2
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It's only the trolls and idiots getting uppity. Hopefully it'll make them go away.
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:04 PM   #3
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I didn't think anybody was taking it seriously. Just one more in a long line of jokes that people refuse to lay to rest long after the thing turned to dust.

It's even worse than the Chuck Norris jokes.
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Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Forgive us for our blasphemy. Amen
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:14 PM   #7
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:15 PM   #8
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Like god really gives a crap about professional sports.
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What was the excuse for 7 RB's on IR a few years back How about an average team for the past 5 seasons

Forget it Kaylore.... if this was the case, the faiders would never have won a single game ever.
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:26 PM   #11
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"hey kids look its Tim Tebow running the Wild Jesus formation"
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:27 PM   #12
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Like god really gives a crap about professional sports.
No, but the Abrahamic God gets pretty pissed off at people breaking his rules, ie Exodus 20:3 - he hates graven images.... just ask Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

What Kaylore is suggesting is that since football is what is important to those blaspheming the lord, that the lord taketh just as he giveth.
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Needless to say, I took down "Tebowism" as my religion listed on facebook a while ago.
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:35 PM   #15
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My perspective...God doesn't punish mankind anymore for sin or anything else. As the first picture Dagmar posted illustrates (minus the commentary), God placed judgment on Jesus who paid the price for sin. Tebow, nor anyone else for that matter, has any bearing.

Regardless of my belief, I think Tebow/religion comments and jokes are interesting. Good thing he isn't a Muslim. I think many posters on the Mane would have a bounty on their head.
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My perspective...God doesn't punish mankind anymore for sin or anything else. As the first picture Dagmar posted illustrates (minus the commentary), God placed judgment on Jesus who paid the price for sin. Tebow, nor anyone else for that matter, has any bearing.

Regardless of my belief, I think Tebow/religion comments and jokes are interesting. Good thing he isn't a Muslim. I think many posters on the Mane would have a bounty on their head.
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Kaylore make a strong point, as far as blasphemy.

Mocking Tebow as Christ is clearly so.

No it doesn't matter to me, but it is clearly so.

Cutting ones hair has always had dep significance.

Generally, It's an act of submission/slavery/servitude.

It was also used on ships before outlawed, for you idiots.

My ex wifes father went thru it on the trip below the equator, they drag you under the hull of the ship on a rope,

VERY TRUE.
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Natedogg is the only person I've seen relentlessly go at it, which has made up a decent portion of his last few posts. I'm not sure if he is being serious or not, but if he is. Personally, if Jesus was on Earth right now with me he'd probably wanna score some cocaine and do a few rails. Right?
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Kaylore make a strong point, as far as blasphemy.

Mocking Tebow as Christ is clearly so.

No it doesn't matter to me, but it is clearly so.

Cutting ones hair has always had dep significance.

Generally, It's an act of submission/slavery/servitude.

It was also used on ships before outlawed, for you idiots.

My ex wifes father went thru it on the trip below the equator, they drag you under the hull of the ship on a rope,

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I take it you're no mighty shellback?
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Regardless, It's another example of Beavis being made fun of in the national media.

BTW, Tebow shave it off the next day.
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Natedogg is the only person I've seen relentlessly go at it, which has made up a decent portion of his last few posts. I'm not sure if he is being serious or not, but if he is. Personally, if Jesus was on Earth right now with me he'd probably wanna score some cocaine and do a few rails. Right?
I always took Jesus as more of a weed guy.
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Regardless, It's another example of Beavis being made fun of in the national media.

BTW, Tebow shave it off the next day.
I was just bringing to light that your previous post was unwittingly talking about a US Navy ritual known as the Shellback Ceremony. It's "outlawed", but the brass generally looks the other way concerning it.
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