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Old 08-06-2010, 11:01 PM   #1
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We all saw it. At least someone admitted that it happened.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5444048
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:16 PM   #2
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Wow ... gutsy.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:34 PM   #3
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That game was fixed, just admit it buddy, you recieved "the call" and altered your calls accordingly.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:38 PM   #4
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Wow ... gutsy.
Yeah, 4 years after the fact...real gutsy indeed.
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Yeah, 4 years after the fact...real gutsy indeed.
Not sure gutsy is the right word, but I do think at least he owned his mistake, even if late. Maybe it will make him or the referees better in the long run. I wish some players would get a clue and take ownership of their free run stupid and move forward. Instead we get, it was her fault, I don't know what you mean, no I didn't do it...etc.
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It's about time. It was obvious, but everyone says "you just didn't want the Steelers to win".
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Worst offociated Super Bowl EVer.

A complete embarrassment to the league when, in what's *supposed* to be the season's ultimate game, the officiating was just plain awful.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:23 AM   #8
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Two calls that got a lot of heat was that holding call that was mentioned in the article, and the offensive PI in the endzone that took a TD away from the Seahawks

I thought both of those calls were right. I was yelling holding at the TV before the ref threw the flag. The DE beat the RT, was going around him for what could have been a sack, then all of a sudden he couldn't get around the RT. Why? Because he was being held! The RT had his arms outside of his body frame. Physically, the only way he could have stopped a guy who had beaten him was by holding him.

On the offensive PI, the WR went fully extended arm bar on the CB to create separation just before the ball got there. One second the CB was standing right next to the WR, then the WR pushes him, and now the CB is like 3 yards away from him, making the catch easy. Push offs happen all the time, but a WR can't go full arm extension and expect to get away with that.

That TD at the goalline was a really tough call. It was hard to tell if Ben got in or not. But if he didn't the Steelers probably would have went for it on 4th down from only one foot out.
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I thought both of those calls were right. I was yelling holding at the TV before the ref threw the flag. The DE beat the RT, was going around him for what could have been a sack, then all of a sudden he couldn't get around the RT. Why? Because he was being held! The RT had his arms outside of his body frame. Physically, the only way he could have stopped a guy who had beaten him was by holding him.
My recollection of the holding call is that is was one of those where you can find holding, but no more than happens on every pass play.
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There was small article about this in local paper. Gonna cut it out and make copies, so I can hand it to Steeler fan when he starts blabbin about six rings, SixBurgh blah, blah blah.
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My recollection of the holding call is that is was one of those where you can find holding, but no more than happens on every pass play.
My feeling then and now as well....poor timing on a call that happens seemingly every down. IMO that holding call was way beyond "ticky tacky."

I do think Darrell Jackson's offensive PI was the right call -- it seemed a little more obvious/blantant but even that one WRs get by with all the time.

It definitly seemed like the refs were against the 'Hawks in that one...arguably you could say the same for the Steelers/Cards SB as well.

Pittsburgh is, after all, probably the 2nd most popular team in the NFL (behind the Cowboys)....I'm not suggesting any games were fixed but its certainly to the financial advantage of the NFL for the team with the broader fan base to win.
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My feeling then and now as well....poor timing on a call that happens seemingly every down. IMO that holding call was way beyond "ticky tacky."

I do think Darrell Jackson's offensive PI was the right call -- it seemed a little more obvious/blantant but even that one WRs get by with all the time.

It definitly seemed like the refs were against the 'Hawks in that one...arguably you could say the same for the Steelers/Cards SB as well.

Pittsburgh is, after all, probably the 2nd most popular team in the NFL (behind the Cowboys)....I'm not suggesting any games were fixed but its certainly to the financial advantage of the NFL for the team with the broader fan base to win.
Well right before Jackson's "PI" he was definitely illegally contacted by Chris Hope...and the freakin' back judge or whatever totally through the flag in a reactionary manner after Hope SCREAMED at him.

Thanks a lot though, Bill...no, really.

/tiny bit of rage still left over
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Well right before Jackson's "PI" he was definitely illegally contacted by Chris Hope...and the freakin' back judge or whatever totally through the flag in a reactionary manner after Hope SCREAMED at him.

Thanks a lot though, Bill...no, really.

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There wasn't any illegal contact by the DB.

It can be said that WRs get away with that often, but that doesn't mean that it should not have been called. It was the right call, and if it were the Broncos in the Super Bowl and an opposing WR did that this board would explode.


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Old 08-07-2010, 02:26 PM   #14
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On the holding penalty, just as the DE turns the corner and has a clear path to the QB, the RT holds him on his right shoulder, right on the collar of the shoulder pad. It was quick, but it was enough to slow the DE down so he couldn't get the sack. The video shows that the DE was snagged. I wish I could find the play in full speed, because that really shows how he lost speed even though he had a clear path to the QB.

Like I said in my last post, if the Broncos were in the Super Bowl and that happened and it wasn't called this board would explode.


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Old 08-07-2010, 04:32 PM   #16
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There wasn't any illegal contact by the DB.

It can be said that WRs get away with that often, but that doesn't mean that it should not have been called. It was the right call, and if it were the Broncos in the Super Bowl and an opposing WR did that this board would explode.

Nah there was more contact than that. A 2 second clip doesn't show it.

The Hawks got jacked, period.
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Nah there was more contact than that. A 2 second clip doesn't show it.

The Hawks got jacked, period.
I haven't seen any replay that showed defensive illegal contact. Not when the game was live and not in any replays. There is one clip on youtube that shows a couple seconds before the offensive PI. It shows them from about the five yard line, going into the endzone, and there was no defensive illegal contact.

It was the right call.
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i haven't seen any replay that showed defensive illegal contact. Not when the game was live and not in any replays. There is one clip on youtube that shows a couple seconds before the offensive pi. It shows them from about the five yard line, going into the endzone, and there was no defensive illegal contact.

It was the right call.
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I remember the calls being marginal, but not wrong.

But this is horrible. Seattle is already a whining fanbase and living there for 6 years, I had to listen to their continual complaining and b****ing about this game. Now they'll never shut up.
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Well I have yet to see anything that would be considered illegal contact by the defender on that play, but I do see offensive PI.
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Well I have yet to see anything that would be considered illegal contact by the defender on that play, but I do see offensive PI.
ya i know I'm obviously biased and will be til the end of time....I just distinctly remember thinking that there was enough contact from both parties.
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Didnt we see NFL Network had some referee show the week right past the superbowl trying to "explain" how these were the correct calls? I believe it was this game as it was the most blown in recent time and I believe NFL network was around then. Covering for themselves I figured.
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I remember the calls being marginal, but not wrong.

But this is horrible. Seattle is already a whining fanbase and living there for 6 years, I had to listen to their continual complaining and b****ing about this game. Now they'll never shut up.
They were robbed. I cant blame them for remembering that game with antipathy.
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It's been a long time... but I seem to recall plenty of bad calls.... and believe it or not, I'm pretty sure at least a couple of them helped the Chickens.
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