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Old 08-06-2010, 02:41 PM   #1
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Default It's been a while since I've liked Greek.

Don't you think after all the snakebitten seasons we've had, and the ridiculously long tenure that Greek has had, it's just time for us to part way and get a newer, fresher trainer with a new perspective?

Normally when something doesn't work, people don't keep going with it for decades.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:44 PM   #2
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If Greek continues tearing people's muscles, and tweaking their hamstrings, he's going to have to go.
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in my experience, a trainer is a trainer, all they do is bring people back from injury and rehab. we dont have issues with guys getting reinjured or guys having the same injuries over and over, we have issues with guys not getting hurt in the first place or falling in teh second half of the season.
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I don't really know much about player conditioning but from an outsider's perspective big injuries every year = get a new trainer.
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If Greek continues tearing people's muscles, and tweaking their hamstrings, he's going to have to go.
Greek was guarding Clady in pickup basketball.


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I've never understood blaming the training staff for injuries. Maybe I'm giving the players too much credit as far as knowing how to warm up and stretch regularly. Seriously though, that's ****ing grade 8 PE.
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I've never understood blaming the training staff for injuries. Maybe I'm giving the players too much credit as far as knowing how to warm up and stretch regularly. Seriously though, that's ****ing grade 8 PE.
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I've never understood blaming the training staff for injuries. Maybe I'm giving the players too much credit as far as knowing how to warm up and stretch regularly. Seriously though, that's ****ing grade 8 PE.
college and pro football is NOTHING, absolutely nothing like grade 8 PE. warmups are far more advanced than toe touches and shoulder swings, those dont do ****. now if the broncos are doing everything that players should be doing i dont know, but i imagine they are, and it just happens, which is the case in most situations, it just happens.
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college and pro football is NOTHING, absolutely nothing like grade 8 PE. warmups are far more advanced than toe touches and shoulder swings, those dont do ****. are the broncos doing a
I think I hyperboled a bit too much.
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I think I hyperboled a bit too much.
just letting you know, practices are not just players doing toe touches, its led by either other players or in college situations, coaches, its normally done to a cadence and is very comprehensive. injuries just happen, its part of the game.
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I don't really know much about player conditioning but from an outsider's perspective big injuries every year = get a new trainer.
That's what I'm saying.
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Old 08-06-2010, 03:48 PM   #13
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Just for the record, when Broncos players say "Greek" they are almost always referring to the Broncos' athletic trainer, Steve Antonopulos, who can always be seen on the sidelines in his white Broncos polo and his jean shorts.
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Old 08-06-2010, 03:48 PM   #14
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Everybody is looking for a fall guy.
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I'm just saying keeping a guy on that long is not without its setbacks. Players change. And when you have a guy whose job it is to make sure that players are in the right physical condition to avoid injury, and players drop like flies, it seems like he would HAVE to be the fall guy.

It's happened every year since 1999 - some important player goes out for the season. That isn't normal.
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I would like to see him gone.

However, I blame him more for the Cutler diabetes fiasco and the Marshal hip mitigation plan than for the possibility of any player getting intially injured.
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Out: Sundquist, Nolan, Turner,Dennison, the Goodmans.

Staying: Wink, Tuten and the Greek as holdovers.

Nepotism: Butthead.
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However, I blame him more for the Cutler diabetes fiasco and the Marshal hip mitigation plan than for the possibility of any player getting intially injured.
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I would like to see him gone.

However, I blame him more for the Cutler diabetes fiasco and the Marshal hip mitigation plan than for the possibility of any player getting intially injured.
I don't. Cutler himself admitted that they tried to get him to come in for blood tests and kept blowing it off.
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Greek was guarding Clady in pickup basketball.


Also, this is how I roll everyDAY!

You can go run and tell that, homeboy...
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I'm just saying keeping a guy on that long is not without its setbacks. Players change. And when you have a guy whose job it is to make sure that players are in the right physical condition to avoid injury, and players drop like flies, it seems like he would HAVE to be the fall guy.

It's happened every year since 1999 - some important player goes out for the season. That isn't normal.
it is normal.

how many teams in the NFL go injury free? zero.

last year we had almost no injuries. but greek was our trainer.
2005 we had almost no injuries. but greek was our trainer.

how is that possible then? if greek isnt doing his job, then why did we suffer minimum injuries last season? injuries are all about luck. most injuries occur during fluke plays.
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i find it hilarious when people try to blame players and coaches for the injuries that are suffered during the game...why not blame the players for not being in better shape or better yet, why not blame the fans for putting pressure on the players and coaches to be the best team in the league and making them practice so hard...so its all your fault.
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