Expanded use of the 4-3...beefy - The Orange Mane

mkporter · 08-06-2010, 12:06 PM

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4. In the wake of Dumervil’s injury, McDaniels said the defense would incorporate some 4-3 looks into its package, and a glimpse was offered Friday, with a four-lineman formation that included nose tackles Ronald Fields and Jamal Williams on the inside. Williams made his training camp debut Sunday, while Fields practiced for the first time in four days. The duo threw their combined 662 pounds around effectively, squelching the run game during the periods they worked together.

http://maxdenver.com/blog1/2010/08/0...ning-practice/

Now that's some beef in the middle. Losing Doom still sucks, but I like the sound of a package with these two in the middle.

Requiem · 08-06-2010, 12:12 PM

Very beefy. BEEFCAKE.

Kaylore · 08-06-2010, 12:34 PM

At least they're working on their short yardage situations. We got killed both ways with that.

lostknight · 08-06-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mkporter

http://maxdenver.com/blog1/2010/08/0...ning-practice/

Now that's some beef in the middle. Losing Doom still sucks, but I like the sound of a package with these two in the middle.

I like the combo a lot.

bfoflcommish · 08-06-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

At least they're working on their short yardage situations. We got killed both ways with that.

so incorrect, from what I hear these coaches have no clue what thier doing.

lostknight · 08-06-2010, 12:42 PM

Ouch. According to Sirius, there was absolutely no pass rush with the 4-3 today. Erk.

Chris · 08-06-2010, 12:53 PM

We will be okay. The season is not lost on one player.

diehardbroncosfan · 08-06-2010, 01:12 PM

A 4-3 could actually look pretty good

LDE- Bannon, Mcbean
DT1- Fields, Baker
DT2- Williams, Thomas
RDE-Ayers, Green

WOLB- Woodyard
MLB- Williams
SOLB- Haggan

Try running on that.

Hogan11 · 08-06-2010, 01:16 PM

So much for sticking with one system

azbroncfan · 08-06-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbroncosfan

A 4-3 could actually look pretty good

LDE- Bannon, Mcbean
DT1- Fields, Baker
DT2- Williams, Thomas
RDE-Ayers, Green

WOLB- Woodyard
MLB- Williams
SOLB- Haggan

Try running on that.

That would be easy to expose by spreading them out and passing the ball.

Swedish Extrovert · 08-06-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbroncosfan

A 4-3 could actually look pretty good

LDE- Bannon, Mcbean
DT1- Fields, Baker
DT2- Williams, Thomas
RDE-Ayers, Green

WOLB- Woodyard
MLB- Williams
SOLB- Haggan

Try running on that.

Hear, hear.

I really like that front seven... would Ayers have to change his number again though?

I think Ayers is better suited as a 4-3 RDE than a SOLB anyway.

Swedish Extrovert · 08-06-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by azbroncfan

That would be easy to expose by spreading them out and passing the ball.

I don't know, man... maybe switch Woodyard so SOLB and Haggan to WOLB. Woodyard is decent in coverage... in fact, he's so decent that if I were Shanahan I would have moved Woodyard to SS his rookie season.

azbroncfan · 08-06-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MightySmurf

I don't know, man... maybe switch Woodyard so SOLB and Haggan to WOLB. Woodyard is decent in coverage... in fact, he's so decent that if I were Shanahan I would have moved Woodyard to SS his rookie season.

Well they better play good coverage because there will be no pressure with that line up.

diehardbroncosfan · 08-06-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by azbroncfan

Well they better play good coverage because there will be no pressure with that line up.

Ayers, Green and Williams could bring some pressure.

skunk · 08-06-2010, 01:37 PM

its going to be awsesome when we are 4-12 , NOT

skunk · 08-06-2010, 01:38 PM

they are implementing the 4-12 defense

PRBronco · 08-06-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skunk

its going to be awsesome when we are 4-12 , NOT

Wtf? I always thought you were a Raiders troll.

MABroncoFan · 08-06-2010, 01:40 PM

If Schobel wants to play in a 4-3 defense, tell him we'll be running some of that this year and bring him in as a pass rusher for the 4-3 alignment. Also, bring him in on passing downs when playing the 3-4, so he can get plenty of action w/o having to learn to cover as a 3-4 OLB.

skunk · 08-06-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PRBronco

Wtf? I always thought you were a Raiders troll.

no im a broncos troll

PRBronco · 08-06-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skunk

no im a broncos troll

In that case:

jhns · 08-06-2010, 01:46 PM

Why are some making a big deal about using the 4-3? Doesn't every 3-4 team use a lot of 4-3?

skunk · 08-06-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jhns

Why are some making a big deal about using the 4-3? Doesn't every 3-4 team use a lot of 4-3?

yeah **** you

Swedish Extrovert · 08-06-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by azbroncfan

Well they better play good coverage because there will be no pressure with that line up.

Ayers will bring decent pressure.

jhns · 08-06-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by skunk

yeah **** you

Good response.

LongDongJohnson · 08-06-2010, 02:14 PM

thats the 1 good thing about being a 3-4 team. its easier for a 3-4 team to be versatile and run a 4-3. but most 4-3 teams cant run a 3-4 because they dont have the players.

the patriots did this a lot last season. they ran 4-3 pretty much the entire game against us if i remember correctly.

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08-06-2010, 12:12 PM	#2
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,612 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Very beefy. BEEFCAKE.

08-06-2010, 12:34 PM	#3
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	At least they're working on their short yardage situations. We got killed both ways with that.

08-06-2010, 12:42 PM	#6
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Ouch. According to Sirius, there was absolutely no pass rush with the 4-3 today. Erk.

08-06-2010, 12:53 PM	#7
Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,501 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	We will be okay. The season is not lost on one player.

08-06-2010, 01:12 PM	#8
diehardbroncosfan Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 191 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	A 4-3 could actually look pretty good LDE- Bannon, Mcbean DT1- Fields, Baker DT2- Williams, Thomas RDE-Ayers, Green WOLB- Woodyard MLB- Williams SOLB- Haggan Try running on that.

08-06-2010, 01:16 PM	#9
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	So much for sticking with one system

08-06-2010, 01:37 PM	#15
skunk Seasoned Veteran WOE UNTO THEE Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 339 Adopt-a-Bronco: No	its going to be awsesome when we are 4-12 , NOT

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skunk Seasoned Veteran WOE UNTO THEE Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 339 Adopt-a-Bronco: No	they are implementing the 4-12 defense

08-06-2010, 01:40 PM	#18
MABroncoFan Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,100 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	If Schobel wants to play in a 4-3 defense, tell him we'll be running some of that this year and bring him in as a pass rusher for the 4-3 alignment. Also, bring him in on passing downs when playing the 3-4, so he can get plenty of action w/o having to learn to cover as a 3-4 OLB.

08-06-2010, 01:46 PM	#21
jhns I'm all up in your face but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,405 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Why are some making a big deal about using the 4-3? Doesn't every 3-4 team use a lot of 4-3?

08-06-2010, 02:14 PM	#25
LongDongJohnson Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,626 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	thats the 1 good thing about being a 3-4 team. its easier for a 3-4 team to be versatile and run a 4-3. but most 4-3 teams cant run a 3-4 because they dont have the players. the patriots did this a lot last season. they ran 4-3 pretty much the entire game against us if i remember correctly.