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Old 08-06-2010, 11:56 AM   #1
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Bertrand Berry outstretched his left arm as he tried to rush around Seattle's monster left tackle Walter Jones in a game in 2005, and as he did, Berry felt a snap in his chest.

His pectoral muscle had torn, and the tendon that attaches the muscle to the arm bone had ruptured.

So Berry, who played for the Broncos from 2001-03 and recently retired after 12 seasons, can fully empathize with Denver's star pass rusher Elvis Dumervil, who suffered the same injury in a training camp practice Wednesday evening.

"I feel bad for Elvis. I know he was looking for a big year," said Berry, who added he has a soft spot for Dumervil since Dumervil wears his old No. 92.

Berry had his pectoral muscle surgically repaired by renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews within days and missed the remaining eight games of the season for the Arizona Cardinals. He made a full recovery and said he had no long-term effects from the injury once he completed the rehabilitation process, which took several months.

"He should be the same Elvis of old," Berry said. "It is not a career- changing injury."

Pectoral injuries are most common in men who lift heavy weights, and the injury is fairly easy to diagnose, said Dr. Wayne Gersoff, a surgeon at Advanced Orthopedic and Sports Medicine Specialists in Denver.

"The biggest thing is when it happens, it hurts like heck," Gersoff said. "There's a lot of bleeding and black- and-bluing around there."

The initial injury is often visible to the naked eye because the muscle will ball up and "will look like a big lump in the breast," he said. An MRI would determine how severe the tear is and if the tendon is ruptured. If so, the injury almost always requires surgery.

"It is probably better to do surgery sooner rather than later," Gersoff said. "You want to move to the healing stage as soon as possible."

Gersoff said the rehab time for a surgically repaired pectoral muscle is at minimum three months. Gersoff said the surgery itself is low risk, but that rehab can be tricky because of the need to immobilize the area.

"You have to allow nature to take its course, and sometimes the simple act of coughing or laughing hard contracts that muscle and tendon," Gersoff said. "You're always at risk of doing something."

Besides Berry, other NFL players have returned from a similar injury. Raiders quarterback Bruce Gradkow- ski had surgery to repair his left pectoral muscle in April and is participating in training camp. Seattle linebacker Lofa Tatupu is back with the Seahawks after missing most of last season with the injury.

"The rehab isn't going to be as slow long term," Berry said. "The first part is getting a range of motion and the mobility back, and then doing the things he's always been able to do."
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:11 PM   #2
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That's just craptastic.
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:31 PM   #3
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Damn, that doctor James Andrews has operated on a lot of big time athletes. Any chance the Broncos pony up for his scalpal?
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Didn't Strahan play with torn pec? Probably was slight tear and it's hard to compare a HOF to other players too because they are in league of their own.
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just put him on the IR
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:54 PM   #7
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Gersoff said the rehab time for a surgically repaired pectoral muscle is at minimum three months. Gersoff said the surgery itself is low risk, but that rehab can be tricky because of the need to immobilize the area.
Quickly checking the calendar, if Doom has the surgery today three months gets him almost exactly to week 8, and we have our bye week 9.

So going strictly by these numbers there is some hope that he'll be back for the entire second half.
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Quickly checking the calendar, if Doom has the surgery today three months gets him almost exactly to week 8, and we have our bye week 9.

So going strictly by these numbers there is some hope that he'll be back for the entire second half.
True.. but what kind of shape will he be in?
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Damn, that doctor James Andrews has operated on a lot of big time athletes. Any chance the Broncos pony up for his scalpal?
I doubt they'll have anyone but the best of the best working on their multi-million dollar investment.
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True.. but what kind of shape will he be in?
The three months is supposed to be rehab time, so I'd assume it would involve restrengthening and the like as part of the estimate.
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The three months is supposed to be rehab time, so I'd assume it would involve restrengthening and the like as part of the estimate.
I meant football shape. I'm sure the Lil Freak will be strong, but will he be ready for football and contact.
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I meant football shape. I'm sure the Lil Freak will be strong, but will he be ready for football and contact.
That would be the big question, but if he could be ready by week 10 it'd be very possible that we could PUP him and actually get him on the field for the second half.
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he'll be put on the PUP. They'll have a better idea by week 6 if they need to put him on IR
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Isnt there a new IR rule this year that players can go on IR at the beginning of the season and return for week 10?
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Quickly checking the calendar, if Doom has the surgery today three months gets him almost exactly to week 8, and we have our bye week 9.

So going strictly by these numbers there is some hope that he'll be back for the entire second half.
I like that the bye week is right after rehab. Hopefully they can focus a week purely on conditioning and stretching... let Doom rest and focus on immobilizing the injury, and he should be back by PLAYOFFS... I would not rush him though.
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Isnt there a new IR rule this year that players can go on IR at the beginning of the season and return for week 10?
Where did you hear that?
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arent the broncos trying to get a second opinion on dooms injury to see how bad it is and to get an accurate time table? well any word on that?
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Where did you hear that?
I don't remember. I just looked it up and it was just something I read about addressing an extended regular season. For some reason I thought they actually did change the rule.

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As owners continue to weigh the possibility of increasing the regular season to 17 or 18 games, the tweaking of IR rules also has been discussed, most recently yesterday as the NFL spring meeting concluded. One option is allowing teams to place one or two players on an injured reserve list that would sideline them for a set period, likely six games, before having them return to the active roster.
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