Arizona Cops Threatened by Mexican Drug Cartel

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy

Holy ****, you're a moron. Congratulations.

It was an example, stupid. Try to catch up with the rest of the class.

Riiiiight!

[TheElusiveKyleOrton]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I understand, but you're still profiling. That's ok, I won't call you a racist, I leave that up to alarmists who are trying to use political correctness to justify illegal activity.

How am I still profiling exactly? Did I miss the part where I said as an officer I would pull someone over for "looking Mexican" because they have a tan?

DURRRRRRP. Keep digging, Tombstone.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy

How am I still profiling exactly? Did I miss the part where I said as an officer I would pull someone over for "looking Mexican" because they have a tan?

DURRRRRRP. Keep digging, Tombstone.

I don't need to dig, you are managing to bury yourself with each new post.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

What "I" think needs to be done in order to address the issue of illegal immigration... is to identify and prosecute any corporation that employs said illegal immigrants.

Ding ding, we have a winner.

We're never gonna succeed fighting the supply side. No matter how many fences we build, no matter how high we build them, we can't stop illegals from crossing the border to work.

Fight the battle on the demand side. Biometrics work card issued for alien workers, forgery-safe, with bar code and bio-metrics (fingerprint and photo is enough). Chuck Schumer says the employer should hold the card and have it at all times the worker is employed with them. Tough to cheat like that. ICE pops in for a surprise check, and you don't have Pancho's card in the safe? Fine. Enforcement would be a lot cheaper.

[BroncoBuff]

I add an extra twist to the plan, a deliciously evil one: Establish an anonymous 1-800 number anyone can call to report violations. If the violation meets certain criteria, the caller gets a reward check.

Pay the citizens to do the policing.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Ding ding, we have a winner.

We're never gonna succeed fighting the supply side. No matter how many fences we build, no matter how high we build them, we can't stop illegals from crossing the border to work.

Fight the battle on the demand side. Biometrics work card issued for alien workers, forgery-safe, with bar code and bio-metrics (fingerprint and photo is enough). Chuck Schumer says the employer should hold the card and have it at all times the worker is employed with them. Tough to cheat like that. ICE pops in for a surprise check, and you don't have Pancho's card in the safe? Fine. Enforcement would be a lot cheaper.

How about attacking from both sides? If you want to take care of the problem efficiently and without dragging it out then start arresting execs who hire illegals, and fine the hell out of the company and then also enforcing the laws against illegals who know they are here illegally (and the communities that hide them).

Why not both?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I add an extra twist to the plan, a deliciously evil one: Establish an anonymous 1-800 number anyone can call to report violations. If the violation meets certain criteria, the caller gets a reward check.

Pay the citizens to do the policing.

yah, I'm sure Homeland Security can't tap into this line and listen... nah, big brother can't do that, right?

[baja]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I add an extra twist to the plan, a deliciously evil one: Establish an anonymous 1-800 number anyone can call to report violations. If the violation meets certain criteria, the caller gets a reward check.

Pay the citizens to do the policing.

I always knew you were a rat baastard commrade.

Hitler liked your idea alot too.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

How about attacking from both sides? If you want to take care of the problem efficiently and without dragging it out then start arresting execs who hire illegals, and fine the hell out of the company and then also enforcing the laws against illegals who know they are here illegally (and the communities that hide them).

Why not both?

Both, definitely both, though I'm thinking criminal liability for execs, no matter how fun it sounds, is a bit much.

The thing about the fines for employers is that it's cheaper. ICE spends a fortune patrolling the border, rounding them up, housing and adjudicating their statuses, and finally deporting them.

As far as the "Sanctuary City" thing you raised ... that always seems like a straw issue to me. Since 1993 when I started practicing law in Los Angeles, no force in L.A. County will arrest based on illegal status. In fact, LAPD and LASD have standing policies not to do so.

Of course the fright wingers never mention that. They'd rather focus on San Francisco. You know, where all the queers and fetus killers live.

And even in SF it's not "sanctuary" if you're arrested. All County Jails and the CDC weed out illegals for deportation at the time of their release. Although the governator want to skip illegals serving prison time, and deport them immediately to save money. Sounds dangerous to me.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Both, definitely both, though I'm thinking criminal liability for execs, no matter how fun it sounds, is a bit much.

The thing about the fines for employers is that it's cheaper. ICE spends a fortune patrolling the border, rounding them up, housing and adjudicating their statuses, and finally deporting them.

As far as the "Sanctuary City" thing you raised ... that always seems like a straw issue to me. Since 1993 when I started practicing law in Los Angeles, no force in L.A. County will arrest based on illegal status. In fact, LAPD and LASD have standing policies not to do so.

Of course the fright wingers never mention that. They'd rather focus on San Francisco. You know, where all the queers and fetus killers live.

And even in SF it's not "sanctuary" if you're arrested. All County Jails and the CDC weed out illegals for deportation at the time of their release. Although the governator want to skip illegals serving prison time, and deport them immediately to save money. Sounds dangerous to me.

not really a strong case you are making for CA, kinda weak.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

And even in SF it's not "sanctuary" if you're arrested. All County Jails and the CDC weed out illegals for deportation at the time of their release. Although the governator want to skip illegals serving prison time, and deport them immediately to save money. Sounds dangerous to me.

Sorry Buff but not true. SF gets top billing as Sanctuary City is because the city allowed an illegal alien to be released , not to ICE, but back out on the street where he killed a father and two sons. Only did the outrage from the crime did Gavin Newsome do anything to change policy. LA and SF are a bunch of illegal humping cities. It is all for the mighty vote and cheap labor.
Going after supply and demand will work if laws will be able to be passed. Handouts to illegals is what keeps them coming and staying. Free food among other things is something they dont get in their home country.

[Pontius Pirate]

[tebowisdabomb]

2 words

LAND MINES

[Lev Vyvanse]

Originally Posted by cutlerisdabomb

2 words

LAND MINES

Or one. Excellent plan though, it will zip right through congress.

[tebowisdabomb]

actually build two fences with land mines between the two, clearly mark the fence that land mines are on the other side...
Want to come to America? Fine, get in line behind those who done it the right way and we will be glad you are here.

Problem solved

[Dukes]

Originally Posted by cutlerisdabomb

actually build two fences with land mines between the two, clearly mark the fence that land mines are on the other side...
Want to come to America? Fine, get in line behind those who done it the right way and we will be glad you are here.

Problem solved

No, it's not solved. They'll simply continue digging tunnels miles long under the border. A fence is a good first deterrent. Not the final answer.

[sirhcyennek81]

Originally Posted by Dukes

No, it's not solved. They'll simply continue digging tunnels miles long under the border. A fence is a good first deterrent. Not the final answer.

Well...

Being that its 2010, I am sure we can find a second deterrent. We do tag sharks and find out where they go in the ocean...so why not tag illegals? They get caught, they get tagged and shipped back to Mexico. Electronic monitoring and if they come within 5 miles of the border local ICE and state police are notified via email alerts to meet them AT the border.

We could do the same with foreign students coming here on visas or migrant workers who come into the country to work and then leave. The chip/tag can be deactivated when they are here for the length of the visa. When the visa expires the chip activates, notifying local law enforcement and ICE.

Im not kidding, either.