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Old 06-15-2010, 12:24 PM   #1
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The 110th US Open Golf Championship takes place from Thursday 17th to Sunday 20th June. The venue this year is Pebble Beach, on the Monterey peninsula south of San Francisco, possibly the most beautiful golfing venue on the planet. Right on the Pacific coast, Americans often consider it a links course. It does not look or play like a traditional course, but the wind certainly can blow. Unlike many of the members-only courses in the US, you can play at Pebble Beach if you book up well in advance, and are prepared to fork out $600 for a hotel room, which makes you eligible to pay $500 for the green fee. That does, however, include a cart, and will make you much more blase about despatching a dozen new balls into the Pacific on the way round.



The History

The US Open is the second of the four golfing "majors", in the calendar, in age and in prestige (although most Americans might argue with the last). It was first held in 1895 in Rhode Island. The first winner, from a field of 11, took home $150! The early days were dominated by Willie Anderson, whose record of 4 wins has not been beaten. Harry Vardon, six times winner of our Open and inventor of the standard grip, won it in 1900. Between the wars it was dominated by Bobby Jones. Between 1922 and 1930, this amateur won it four times, and was second four times, with an aberrant 11th place on the other occasion.

After the second world war, Ben Hogan ruled the roost, and his brilliant performances and style of play came to shape the US Open ever since. He was renowned for his calculating and strategic play, relentless practice and superb ball striking. By 1948, his record in consecutive appearances in the US Open was 5th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 1st. He also won the PGA in 48. Then he nearly died in a car crash in 1949 and was not expected to walk again. He was out of hospital after 2 months, and returned to tournament golf 11 months later, finishing 2nd at the LA Open. (How d'ya like them apples, Tiger). Five months later he won the US Open again. He won it again in 51 and for a fourth time in 53, adding two more seconds and a third besides.

In 53, he won at Oakmont, a tough course where par had not previously been broken for 72 holes. He led after every round and later claimed "I have tamed the monster". His win around its tight fairways set the style for the US Open ever since - the USGA want players to emulate Hogan's accuracy by setting the course as tight and as hard as they possibly can.

Jack Nicklaus's first win as a pro was at the 1962 US Open. He was runner up the previous year as an amateur. His third win came when the tournament first came to Pebble Beach in 1972. In very rough wind he came to the 17th, a long par 3 into the wind, with a 3 shot lead. He picked a 1-iron, and his tee shot hit the flagstick and finished inches away. He won a fourth title in 1980, and in 1982 was back at Pebble looking for a fifth in a tournament that came down to a duel with Tom Watson. This time it was Watson who came to 17 with a one shot lead, and pulled his long iron into heavy, heavy rough near the green. Even a bogey looked like a good result, but his miracle chip popped into the hole on the second bounce and the tournament was his.

In 1992, Gil Morgan became the first person in US Open history to reach 10 under par, doing so on the Saturday. He got to -12 after 7 holes, and a 7 shot lead, but the turning weather ensured he did not even feature in the shake up as 40 mph winds scattered the field. Colin Montgomerie, in his first appearance, finished early on Sunday at level par and was congratulated by Jack Nicklaus on winning his first US Open. Sadly for the dour Scot, Tom Kite played a miraculous round and came home at -3 for his only major triumph.

Tiger Woods was responsible for blowing the field away in 2000. Leading from day 1, he shot 12 under par, a record; he won by 15 shots, a record in any major; he only made 6 bogies all week and had no 3-putts.


Neither recent nor historic form plays much part in determining the winner of the US Open, but here's the top 20

1. Tiger Woods
2. Phil Mickelson
3. Lee Westwood - has got the long game, which might be enough to cover his not quite world class short game. Finished 1 shot out of the play-off in 2008. Can he seal the deal?
4. Steve Stricker - has not played much since March. 17th last week was best finish. Hits fairways, great putter, no record of performing well in majors.
5. Jim Furyk - US Open champ in 2003 and has won twice this year. Could be a strong contender.
6. Ian Poulter - 3 events since the Masters, 2 missed cuts and a last. Not going to win at Pebble Beach this week.
7. Ernie Els
8. Luke Donald - drives straight, great putter, recent form, no good in the wind.
9. Paul Casey - drives long, suspect in the wind, missed the cut at the two big events of the year.
10.Rory McIlroy - going to be the happiest player if it is windy, as long as he can keep his cap on on top of that mop. Some great form this year, some missed cuts.
11.Anthony Kim - has never played the AT&T here, which is bizarre, as he is a native Californian. Maybe he does not like the course.
12.Martin Kaymer - very ropey form this year
13.Robert Allenby - Might be this year's random colonial. Couple of runner-up spots this year, couple of missed cuts. Has not won in the US in the last 5 years.
14.Padraig Harrington - Has 4 top 10s and a bunch of missed cuts in his US Open history. Was 2nd with 9 holes to play the last time it was at Pebble Beach. Recovering from a knee op but had a good first round in the last tourney before the championship.
15.Camilo Villegas - Good form early in the year, mediocre recently.
16.Zach Johnson - Former Masters champion won a couple of weeks ago.
17.Retief Goosen - Regarded as a US Open specialist, with two wins and an unflappable temperament.
18.Geoff Ogilvy - 2006 Champion. Won the first event of the year but not much going on since.
19.Y.E. Yang - 2009 PGA champion playing solidly this year.
20.Lucas Glover - Defending champion and a surprise winner last year. Has had a mixed year but it included top 5 finishes at the PGA last year and this year's Players.

FIRST ROUND, THURSDAY, JUNE 17, 2010


No. 1 7:00 D. Pappas | G. Woodland | P. Sheehan
No. 10 7:00 R. Cabrera-Bello| J. Mallinger | S. Allan
No. 1 7:11 S. Marino | G. Havret | C. Warren
No. 10 7:11 M. Ilonen | D. Lamely | J. Morrison
No. 1 7:22 T. Taniguchi | S. Hansen | E. Molinari
No. 10 7:22 B. Gay | S. Khan | B. Van Pelt
No. 1 7:33 F. Molinari | S. Kjeldsen | H. Fujita
No. 10 7:33 C. Villegas | Z. Johnson | L. Donald
No. 1 7:44 T. Clark | K. Choi | M. Weir
No. 10 7:44 R. Goosen | J. Furyk | A. Cabrera
No. 1 7:55 A. Scott | G. Ogilvy | R. Allenby
No. 10 7:55 S. Appleby | R. Sabbatini | S. Ames
No. 1 8:06 M. Kuchar | J. Leonard | S. Verplank
No. 10 8:06 P. Mickelson | P. Harrington | Y. Yang
No. 1 8:17 S. Cink | A-B. An | L. Glover
No. 10 8:17 D. Frost | K. Yokoo | E. Axley
No. 1 8:28 I. Poulter | Y. Ikeda | H. Stenson
No. 10 8:28 N. Watney | H. Mahan | R. Barnes
No. 1 8:39 T. Immelman | R. Karlsson | D. Toms
No. 10 8:39 J. Dufner | T. Jaidee | R. McGowan
No. 1 8:50 J. Gore | A. Atwal | J. Herman
No. 10 8:50 K. Na | A-B. Martin | M. Bettencourt
No. 1 9:01 A - A. Putnam | T. Tryon | H. Leon
No. 10 9:01 C. Barlow | K. Jones | R. Gates
No. 1 9:12 K. Eger | A. Martin | J. Curran
No. 10 9:12 D. McCarthy | A-J. Bramlett | T. Hampshire
No. 1 12:30 S. Wheatcroft | A-M. Hoffmann | R. Karlberg
No. 10 12:30 T. Pilkadaris | R. Barcelo | G. Boyd
No. 1 12:41 M. Leishman | R. Echenique | J. Rollins
No. 10 12:41 J. Lucquin | C. Stroud | G. Maybin
No. 1 12:52 R. Mediate | G. McDowell | S. Micheel
No. 10 12:52 S. Dyson | J. Henry | A. Cejka
No. 1 1:03 D. Duval | T. Lehman | B. Curtis
No. 10 1:03 M. Campbell | S. Noh | P. Goydos
No. 1 1:14 S. Garcia | S. Stricker | P. Casey
No. 10 1:14 A. Baddeley | P. Martin | R. Davies
No. 1 1:25 B. Estes | B. De Jonge | B. Davis
No. 10 1:25 A. Quiros | R. Moore | M. Sim
No. 1 1:36 L. Westwood | E. Els | T. Woods
No. 10 1:36 V. Singh | D. Johnson | D. Love III
No. 1 1:47 B. Crane | P. Hanson | J. Kelly
No. 10 1:47 R. Ishikawa | R. McIlroy | T. Watson
No. 1 1:58 M. Kaymer | S. O'Hair | C. Schwartzel
No. 10 1:58 K. Perry | M. Jimenez | F. Funk
No. 1 2:09 H. Slocum | O. Wilson | J. Senden
No. 10 2:09 R. Fisher | B. Snedeker | L. Oosthuizen
No. 1 2:20 M. Gronberg | A. Yano | H. Frazar
No. 10 2:20 D. Summerhays | A-S. Langley | M. Richardson
No. 1 2:31 J. Preeo | A-K. Phelan | M. Silvers
No. 10 2:31 E. Compton | A-R. Henley | J. Allred
No. 1 2:42 K. Kim | A-B. Blakeman | B. Peffley
No. 10 2:42 E. Justesen | J. Smith | A-H. Swafford



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Westwood Els Woods, love that pairing.
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My guess is a couple no namers make a run at the victory. I'd like Phil to win but he hasn't played windy courses real well due to his high ball flight. He has done well in the early tournament here but I think the weather isn't as windy that time of year in Monterey.
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Would love Mickelson to win and break his US Open duck.

He and Westwood are the form players in the field, also expecting to see Furyk and Els in the mix. Not decided on my bets quite yet, gonna drop some money on it tomorrow when I get time to survey the odds a bit better.

God knows what Tiger will do, my instinct says he'll stay in the picture. He's just too good a scrambler not to.
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P. Mickelson | P. Harrington | Y. Yang is tasty too!
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I would like to think the epic OP would have been given some love. I mean, COME ON!!

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Anthony Kim is out with thumb surgery and the US Open is THE OPEN.
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I pick Heath Slocum he knows how to hit greens and fairways.
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You can get odds of 10/1 on Tiger on some sites, wonder when the last time was you could get those odds.

Gonna put some win bets on Phil (8/1), Tiger (10/1), Furyk (25/1) and Els (33/1).

Each way picks McDowell (80/1) and Duval (250/1)
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Anthony Kim is out with thumb surgery and the US Open is THE OPEN.
Only the most closed minded of people claim the US Open is the superior "Open".

google the "US Open history" and the 1st hit is for tennis.

google the "Open history" and the British Open golf tournament is the 1st hit.


The 1st Open was played in 1860 (in my home town), 35 years before the US Open.

broncogary let's not make this thread this eh?
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Only the most closed minded of people claim the US Open is the superior "Open".

google the "US Open history" and the 1st hit is for tennis.

google the "Open history" and the British Open golf tournament is the 1st hit.


The 1st Open was played in 1860 (in my home town), 35 years before the US Open.

broncogary let's not make this thread this eh?
Arnold Palmer saved the British Open from obscurity. Hey, I like the British Open, it's just not the number one championship in my mind.
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Arnold Palmer saved the British Open from obscurity. Hey, I like the British Open, it's just not the number one championship in my mind.
Nor mine, there are 4 majors held, 3 in the US, the Masters is the best, the the Open, then the US Open, the the USPGA.


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1. Casey Black : PHIL MICKELSON.He's fallen short in the U.S. Open several times, but this is the year he wins it all. The 2010 Masters champ -- and three-time AT&T Pebble Beach winner -- would take over the top spot in the world rankings with a victory in his home state.

2. Helen Ross: LEE WESTWOOD. It didn't take Sunday's playoff victory to get my attention. Westwood has finished second or third in the last three majors -- and he tied for fourth at THE PLAYERS Championship last month. He's nothing if not overdue.
If Ross had the top pick ... Mickelson

3. Brian Wacker: TIGER WOODS. At some point, Tiger is going to start playing like Tiger and I'm not going to pass up the opportunity that this week is the week he does. He loves Pebble Beach and it suits his game. If he plays smartly and keeps the ball in the fairway, he wins.
If Wacker had the top pick ... Woods

4. Lauren Deason: JIM FURYK. Furyk won the U.S. Open in 2003 and has finished as runner-up in two of the past four years. The two-time winner in 2010 has also missed just one cut in 14 starts at the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am.
If Deason had the top pick ... Mickelson

5. John Swantek : LUKE DONALD. Missed his last 3 U.S. Open cuts, but all on monster courses that were just too long for him. The 7,000-yard Pebble Beach, where he owns a strong record, suits his game perfectly. Best on TOUR in scrambling and sand save percentage.
If Swantek had the top pick ... Mickelson

6. Anne Szeker : BEN CRANE. One win, four top 10s. Tied for 12th is his worst finish in last four starts. Eleventh in driving accuracy, 9th in putting, 6th in scoring, 12th in scrambling. Crane is peaking just in time to rock Pebble Beach.
If Szeker had the top pick ... Mickelson

7. Mike McAllister: ERNIE ELS. Els has two U.S. Open wins but hasn't finished inside the top 10 since 2004. I'm not entirely sure what to expect this week, but he's probably the safest pick at this point.
If McAllister had the top pick ... Furyk

8. Ryan Smithson : STEVE STRICKER. I don't care. Tom Kite didn't play great when he won at Pebble in 1992. All it takes is good concentration and a hell of a putting stroke. Don't tell me this guy can't win a major, even with a bum shoulder.
If Smithson had the top pick ... Mickelson
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Not in the player's mind. If you ask them most of them say the US open is the greatest tournament. Just watch the golf channel's live from the open that is going on right now and you will here that over and over in the interviews.
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Not in the player's mind. If you ask them most of them say the US open is the greatest tournament. Just watch the golf channel's live from the open that is going on right now and you will here that over and over in the interviews.
I don't want to argue about this for pages, so my last comment is I love 3 of the 4 majors with the only one that is kinda crap is the USPGA.

Can't wait for this tournament. I love PB.

edit *Pebble beach not a certain forummer's nemesis*
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The players change their mind on what the best major is depending on what time of the year it is.

By the time the British Open comes around, you know they'll be saying the same sort of ****.

Order of preference for me is

Masters
US Open
British Open
USPGA

Which is funnily enough the order they're played in.

That said, if someone says "The Open" my first thought is always the British Open rather than the US.

Who cares though, really?
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I don't want to argue about this for pages, so my last comment is I love 3 of the 4 majors with the only one that is kinda crap is the USPGA.

Can't wait for this tournament. I love PB.

edit *Pebble beach not a certain forummer's nemesis*
Hey, who's arguing? You can have your own opinion. Every thread that your in doesn't have to be an argument. I happen to think your a very entertaining guy. And I think most people here like you, too.
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