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Old 06-15-2010, 09:37 AM   #1
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Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports only a committed future separates the Broncos from Elvis Dumervil. As reported Monday, Dumervil, Denver's all-pro pass-rushing linebacker, signed his first- and third-round restricted free-agent tender Monday, ensuring that he will play for no less than $3.168 million this season.

Had he not signed his tender in protest of not getting a multiyear contract from the Broncos, Dumervil's salary could have been reduced to about $630,000.

After leading the NFL with 17 sacks last year, and recording 43 sacks in four years while making a combined $2.015 million, Dumervil is hoping to be among the league's five highest-paid pass rushers. That would mean a multiyear contractworth at least $65 million, with the guaranteed portion about $40 million.

At this point Dumervil's asking price is a bit steep for the Broncos, although general manager Brian Xanders continues to negotiate with Gary Wichard, the linebacker's agent.

If the Broncos can't reach an agreement with Dumervil by their season opener Sept. 12 at Jacksonville, there's a good chance he will play out this year, then move on to another team through unrestricted free agency.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:38 AM   #2
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3 mil a year is a steal then.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:39 AM   #3
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I like Elvis a lot, but guaranteeing him forty million? Yipes.
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Correct me if I'm wrong.....but isn't Dumervil a RESTRICTED free agent for one more year after this year? Due to the lack of a new CBA. I thought players who were 4 years in the league had TWO years of restricted free agency?
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it's a good thing this exact thing wasn't just posted in the other merged Doom thread

and this is speculation, not what he said he wants, really irresponsible thread title
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:46 AM   #6
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Hey it's not my money. Let's do this!
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:53 AM   #8
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Correct me if I'm wrong.....but isn't Dumervil a RESTRICTED free agent for one more year after this year? Due to the lack of a new CBA. I thought players who were 4 years in the league had TWO years of restricted free agency?
You are correct
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:55 AM   #9
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40 million for a linebacker? I'm not sure he's worth that. How many other guys get that money and are a reason that the team wins? Dwight Freeney is all I can think of right now.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:05 AM   #10
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Shiit this will push the cost of a hotdog to 20 bucks
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it's a good thing this exact thing wasn't just posted in the other merged Doom thread

and this is speculation, not what he said he wants, really irresponsible thread title
this!
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:10 AM   #12
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40 million for a linebacker? I'm not sure he's worth that. How many other guys get that money and are a reason that the team wins? Dwight Freeney is all I can think of right now.
The reason Indy wins is a guy named Peyton Manning.
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Shiit this will push the cost of a hotdog to 20 bucks
No more dogs for me then.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:14 AM   #14
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I think we should pay him. He is a class guy (something the organization supposedly values) and productive (something I value). If this is what it costs to make him a top 5 guy, then I think he deserves it.

I can't wait to see him in his second year at LB. Should be fun!
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I can't even begin to worry about the amounts payed out for contracts at this point.. there are way too many moving parts, particularly with unguaranteed NFL contracts to make any sort of definitive statement about how this will affect the bottom line past this year and perhaps the next.

If this is the going rate for edge rushers with his production, so be it. He is a good player who punches above his weight, overachievers deserve their fair share too.
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Shiit this will push the cost of a hotdog to 20 bucks
And 15 dollar beers.
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When people say it's not my money, that's not true at all. Tickets get raised, hot dogs, beer, etc.
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Until the owners can get something in writing guaranteeing that there will be football in 2011 and that the salary cap under the future CBA will not be any less than it was last year, they'd be absolutely foolish to sign any contract with any player that makes them a top 5 paid player at their position.

There's a reason Peyton Manning and Tom Brady haven't worked out new deals yet, even though both owners were very vocal about getting deals done as soon as the season was up.

It would be crippling for a franchise to lock themselves into huge numbers if there is the slightest chance of a reduced cap.....or no football at all.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:35 AM   #19
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When people say it's not my money, that's not true at all. Tickets get raised, hot dogs, beer, etc.
people here think its either his money or the owners money, they dont tend t understand that every time a player gets a mega-contract, it raises prices on every single bronco related item.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:38 AM   #20
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The problem with Doom is that he's still developing his skill-set at LB.

At 65M, you want a complete, dominant player.

He's certainly a top-flight pass-rusher. But, imagine if you broke down his salary into categories and paid him x-amount for pass rushing, x-amount for run defense, etc.
I just have a feeling that most estimates would have him coming up short of being worth top 5 money. He's not a dominant, complete player yet. He's a dominant pass-rushing specialist.

That said... I think we need to do whatever we need to do to keep him. Sign a long-term deal. In 4 years, this won't seem like that much money. I don't think he's the type of talent you can build a defense around, but he's the only threat we've got out there. We certainly can't let him walk.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:42 AM   #21
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Not real sure this is what he is really asking, but if so...too much for one great year...I love Doom, but I don't think he is worth that...JMHO
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That's a tough nut to swallow, IMO.
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Doom is great, but not worth 40 mill guaranteed.
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Those numbers are pretty close to what Suggs got in Baltimore last year. I do think that is in the ballpark for a top pass-rushing OLB who is just coming into the prime of his career. I suspect he would take a little less given the uncertainty of the 2011 season and the CBA situation. You are going to have to pay some players elite money to succeed in this league. The key is paying it to guys with elite talent who are high character team players. Doom fits that bill.
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Correct me if I'm wrong.....but isn't Dumervil a RESTRICTED free agent for one more year after this year? Due to the lack of a new CBA. I thought players who were 4 years in the league had TWO years of restricted free agency?
This is the last year of the CBA, when the 2010 league year expires there is no CBA and thus no league. That means as soon as a new CBA is in place every player with 4 or more accrued seasons of NFL experience will become unrestricted free agents, including Dumervil.

The 2011 league year will only begin once a new CBA is signed by both parties.
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