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Old 06-11-2010, 10:16 AM   #1
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Many NFL coaches were rumored to be on the hot seat over the course of the 2009 season, and in the beginning of the offseason. While all of the first-year coaches were still on a bit of a honeymoon with their new franchises, Year Two could be a make-or-break one for several of them.

One coach who might be in that boat is Josh McDaniels. The Denver Broncos charged out to a 6-0 record in the 2009 season's initial sextet of contests, but then went 2-8 over the final 10 weeks. Personnel-wise, the inherited "Big Three" -- QB Jay Cutler, WR Brandon Marshall and TE Tony Scheffler -- have all been sent off to other franchises, meaning that fundamentally, this is now the team that McDaniels (and GM Brian Xanders) wants. Due to these factors and several more, Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post thinks that unless the Broncos win at least 10 games in 2010 -- winning the AFC West in the process -- it will be considered a failure. Kiszla even channels Hulk Hogan in his opinion piece, writing: "There are no five-year plans allowed at the professional level. This ain't college football, brother. It's the NFL."

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Q: There is already talk of coaches being on the hot seat, and Josh McDaniels' name has been thrown around as one of them. However, if you listen to Pat Bowlen and Joe Ellis, they seem to think they have a gem of a coach in McDaniels, and the drafting of Tim Tebow only adds to the fact that McDaniels will get at least get three years for sure, but more like 4-5 years to prove he was a good hire. Your thoughts?

-- Willie (Windsor, Colo.)

A: Willie, my thoughts, which Bowlen and Ellis are aware of, is that McDaniels is going to be a star head coach. Sometimes coaches go through growing periods -- look at Mike Shanahan in Oakland and Bill Belichick in Cleveland. And that's not to say that McDaniels won't succeed in Denver. But sometimes it takes a little time for young coaches to make their mark. Bowlen and Ellis know how skilled McDaniels is. They know how much it means to be patient in this league. And they're standing by their man -- can't blame them, as much as some Broncos fans want to.
-Shefter

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Old 06-11-2010, 10:22 AM   #2
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Kiszla is trash. Not surprised.
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Personnel-wise, the inherited "Big Three" -- QB Jay Cutler, WR Brandon Marshall and TE Tony Scheffler


I can't tell if this article is for teh lulz, or what.

Big three. That's fantastic.
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The big 3 who got us to the playoffs all those seasons.... oh wait.
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When did Scheffler become a big three?


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Old 06-11-2010, 10:35 AM   #7
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When did Scheffler become a big three?


The3y mean the three biggest me guys.
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I can't tell if this article is for teh lulz, or what.

Big three. That's fantastic.
It's in quotes too, as if it's a commonly used nickname.

Shefter sure isn't shy about praising McDaniels, which is nice given the anti-Bronco MSM field these days.
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That Scheffler thing is hilarious.

We will just have to be content with such clearly lesser players as Clady, Harris, Royal and Kuper from the previous regime I guess.
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I would say the big three were Cutler, Marshall, and Clady. Also, while I think McDaniels should have been fired about 14 months ago, I do not get why anyone would think Bowlen would fire him so early. It is pretty obvious Bowlen is behind him and I bet he will at least get to stay through his contract.
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FYI, Minicamp report on tebow and the broncos coming up on sportscenter in minutes.
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It might be the big 4 with the way they are lowballing Doom
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FYI, Minicamp report on tebow and the broncos coming up on sportscenter in minutes.
Pretty weak report. Colleen Dominguez (I believe) reported that every position is an open competition and that they are filming everyone of Tebow's snaps (I imagine they do this with all the QBs) and that he's working extensively with Ben McDaniels. The video they showed was from a month ago.
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I still don't get that. Maybe the three biggest whiners?
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:55 AM   #15
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Pretty weak report. Colleen Dominguez (I believe) reported that every position is an open competition and that they are filming everyone of Tebow's snaps (I imagine they do this with all the QBs) and that he's working extensively with Ben McDaniels. The video they showed was from a month ago.
How much you want to bet she didn't even step foot on the field. I saw Sal Paolantonio do a "report" from camp once where he said nothing new at all. I wondered if they didn't just use a backdrop of Dove Valley at Bristol to create the illusion.
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He's signing his tender Monday.
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I think mCd is an easy lazy pick for all the reasons he mentions.

I agree with Sheff, mCd is learning on our dime, if he wins 10 games this year he is on or ahead of schedule but with the Tebow distraction and lack of Orton contract beyond this year I am guessing it could take 4-5 years for mCd to build his dominat playoff contender.

I hope it is quicker than that but I am guessing this will be a long process and depends on how Tebow progresses, if they sign Doom, and how the new stock of WR's brought in to replace Marshall's production pan out.

There are a lot more questions out there than locks.
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How much you want to bet she didn't even step foot on the field. I saw Sal Paolantonio do a "report" from camp once where he said nothing new at all. I wondered if they didn't just use a backdrop of Dove Valley at Bristol to create the illusion.
Or outside the ESPN studio, in the parking lot, where they planted some conifers.

Why waste that reporters time with that? Seems like sloppy use of resources to me.
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I am guessing it could take 4-5 years for mCd to build his dominat playoff contender.
Really? That seems out of touch. Or just hyperbole.
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We might lose a few games this year but we wont have a b**** at QB gurning, a WR constantly yapping about his wallet and a TE (who still cant ****ing block) crying cos he isn't on the field every play.

**** all 3, good riddance, goodbye, I couldn't give a **** if you ever do anything in this league in another uniform. If your team's playing and I have to watch I'm hoping your opponent smacks those tears from your eyes.
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We might lose a few games this year but we wont have a b**** at QB gurning, a WR constantly yapping about his wallet and a TE (who still cant ****ing block) crying cos he isn't on the field every play.

**** all 3, good riddance, goodbye, I couldn't give a **** if you ever do anything in this league in another uniform. If your team's playing and I have to watch I'm hoping your opponent smacks those tears from your eyes.
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If your team's playing and I have to watch I'm hoping your opponent smacks those tears from your eyes.
I viscerally feel this way as well. It puzzles me that more fans don't feel betrayed by these players (as opposed to feeling betrayed by the team).
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I viscerally feel this way as well. It puzzles me that more fans don't feel betrayed by these players (as opposed to feeling betrayed by the team).
That is true with Cutler and Tony but I don't have any issues with marshall.
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That is true with Cutler and Tony but I don't have any issues with marshall.
I honestly believe if he'd kept his mouth shut, kept his head down and worked for the entire season like he did for the first 10-12 weeks we wouldn't have suspended him and we'd have been playing in the playoffs.

Just my opinion, there must've been a good reason for our team captains to support McDaniels disciplinary measures against him and that threw this team off track at the end. Sure there were other issues but this certainly did not help a team who was totally together for the first part of the season.
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