Raiders and Ravens lost OTA days...question about it - The Orange Mane

thecool · 06-09-2010, 11:46 PM

NFLPA shuts team down next week

While most of the participants seemed to be enjoying practice today, somebody hasn't been and blew the whistle.

The Raiders have been told to cancel two days of off-season practices next week, as the NFL Management Council and the NFL Players Association resolved a dispute. The Raiders' (overworked?) players are now not permitted to be at the facility next Wednesday and Thursday, but will be paid for the sessions.

The club cannot reschedule the cancelled practice days.

The Ravens recently lost two days of practices after six players were found to be in meetings too long, while two practiced over the time limit as outlined by the current collective bargaining agreement.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...#ixzz0qQjXhatB

Question:

How the hell does the NFL find out this info to begin with? How are they specifically able to find out that 6 players were in team meetings too long and 2 were practicing over the limit? How does this type of information get out to the NFL officials?

UberBroncoMan · 06-10-2010, 03:22 AM

Looks like the Ravens are really happy with the Foxworth signing right about now.

Ugly Duck · 06-10-2010, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thecool

How the hell does the NFL find out this info to begin with? How are they specifically able to find out that 6 players were in team meetings too long and 2 were practicing over the limit? How does this type of information get out to the NFL officials?

In the Raiders' case rookie OT Jared Velheer was speaking to the press just after the 2nd OTA & was asked how it was going in the no-contact practices. He started off his answer with, "Well, there's plenty of contact..." That got into a Jerry Mac article & someone in the NFL read it.

When suspicions are aroused, the NFL can demand to see tapes of the OTAs. If they don't like what they see, they mete out punishment.

gyldenlove · 06-10-2010, 07:14 AM

I don't think it is a coincidence we are seeing these things being enforced this year with so many players being short changed by the expiring CBA. I think players who are not happy with playing under an RFA tender when they could have been free agents are much more likely to file a complaint with the NFLPA who will then take it to the NFL who really have very little choice but to enforce the CBA.

Mediator12 · 06-10-2010, 07:25 AM

Teams Record EVERYTHING that happens in their facilities. Yes, they even record the meetings to make sure people are not sleeping during film sessions and the like. So, the hours would be a matter of record the NFL could easily get.

Mediator12 · 06-10-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

I don't think it is a coincidence we are seeing these things being enforced this year with so many players being short changed by the expiring CBA. I think players who are not happy with playing under an RFA tender when they could have been free agents are much more likely to file a complaint with the NFLPA who will then take it to the NFL who really have very little choice but to enforce the CBA.

This happens every year, its the competitive edge thing with coaches. However, you make an excellent point. Coaches should be much smarter in dealing with the players whom their bosses have backed into a corner with the CBA negotiations. They are going to act like cornered animals about stuff this season.

worm · 06-10-2010, 07:43 AM

Awesome day for Kiffen. His old team loses OTA time for something that happened on his watch...and his new team sanctions will cause him a ton of problems over the next 2+ years.

Couldn't have happened to a better guy. Sometimes karma is a b****.

Kaylore · 06-10-2010, 09:23 AM

By the way, theCool, congrats on a very solid first post and first thread. Better than most newbs. Not bad for a guy who's been here since '07.

gyldenlove · 06-10-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

By the way, theCool, congrats on a very solid first post and first thread. Better than most newbs. Not bad for a guy whose been here since '07.

Hell, there are posters who have passed the 1k level and have yet to start a thread as solid as this one..

peacepipe · 06-10-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UberBroncoMan

Looks like the Ravens are really happy with the Foxworth signing right about now.

What differance does it make? If not foxworth it would've been someoneelse.

snowspot66 · 06-10-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

What differance does it make? If not foxworth it would've been someoneelse.

With Foxworth the difference is there will always be a complaint. He should just give up the charade of playing football and go be a politician. He cares more about the NFLPA than actually playing.

06-09-2010, 11:46 PM	#1
thecool Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 126 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Raiders and Ravens lost OTA days...question about it NFLPA shuts team down next week While most of the participants seemed to be enjoying practice today, somebody hasn't been and blew the whistle. The Raiders have been told to cancel two days of off-season practices next week, as the NFL Management Council and the NFL Players Association resolved a dispute. The Raiders' (overworked?) players are now not permitted to be at the facility next Wednesday and Thursday, but will be paid for the sessions. The club cannot reschedule the cancelled practice days. The Ravens recently lost two days of practices after six players were found to be in meetings too long, while two practiced over the time limit as outlined by the current collective bargaining agreement. Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...#ixzz0qQjXhatB Question: How the hell does the NFL find out this info to begin with? How are they specifically able to find out that 6 players were in team meetings too long and 2 were practicing over the limit? How does this type of information get out to the NFL officials?

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Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,004 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	By the way, theCool, congrats on a very solid first post and first thread. Better than most newbs. Not bad for a guy who's been here since '07. Last edited by Kaylore; 06-10-2010 at 10:14 AM..

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06-10-2010, 03:22 AM	#2
UberBroncoMan Your Local Nostradamus ** you injuries, this ** Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,514 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ghost of Hillis	Looks like the Ravens are really happy with the Foxworth signing right about now.

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gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,009 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	I don't think it is a coincidence we are seeing these things being enforced this year with so many players being short changed by the expiring CBA. I think players who are not happy with playing under an RFA tender when they could have been free agents are much more likely to file a complaint with the NFLPA who will then take it to the NFL who really have very little choice but to enforce the CBA.

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Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	Teams Record EVERYTHING that happens in their facilities. Yes, they even record the meetings to make sure people are not sleeping during film sessions and the like. So, the hours would be a matter of record the NFL could easily get.

06-10-2010, 07:43 AM	#7
worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	Awesome day for Kiffen. His old team loses OTA time for something that happened on his watch...and his new team sanctions will cause him a ton of problems over the next 2+ years. Couldn't have happened to a better guy. Sometimes karma is a b****.