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Old 06-07-2010, 02:02 PM   #1
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So I am almost done with my wifes truck and I am getting ready to start my knew project. I am going to be running 33/12.50R15 tires and I have narrowed it down to two. Both are the best you can get so quality is not a deciding factor so I guess it is down to looks which do you like?
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:04 PM   #2
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This is the BFG KM2.

I take it you want to get the truck dirty?
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:06 PM   #3
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This is the BFG KM2.

I take it you want to get the truck dirty?
Yes just put the on my wife Toy and they did well. I run the MT/R on my Jeep and love them. They are both Quite and get ok tred life. The best part is they are Quite well for mudders at least.

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I replaced Goodyears with Contential's on my wifes 2004 Durango. We don't off road, they are cheaper and quiter, plus they came standard on my BMW so I figured good enough for German engineers good enough for rust bucket Dodge.
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Toyo Open Country MT's. I put them on my superduty after going through BFG's, and couldn't be happier with the ride.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:27 PM   #6
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Toyo Open Country MT's. I put them on my superduty after going through BFG's, and couldn't be happier with the ride.
Not trying to be rude but Toyo is not even in the same class as these two tires.
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Not trying to be rude but Toyo is not even in the same class as these two tires.
I wouldn't consider you rude. Just ignorant. I've had several sets of BFG's and switched to Toyo's because they are flat out better tires.
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I wouldn't consider you rude. Just ignorant. I've had several sets of BFG's and switched to Toyo's because they are flat out better tires.
Yep when I go Krawling down in Moab I see Toyo's on every truck. Please man. I have been working in the field for 20 years and been wheeling for even longer. It will be one of these two I am just trying to decide which one.
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BFG hands down. I used to be in the business years ago and BFG always had a great product and even better customer relations.
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Yep when I go Krawling down in Moab I see Toyo's on every truck. Please man. I have been working in the field for 20 years and been wheeling for even longer. It will be one of these two I am just trying to decide which one.
I run 35" M/T's on my truck and have had both brands. The BFG's cupped if they weren't rotated every 5000 miles, and left me with an uncorrectable shimmy. I switched to Toyo's at the suggestion of my 4x4 shop, and have had none of those issues since. I've got 40,000 miles on this set and rides perfectly on the highway.... roated every 10k, with plenty of tread to spare.
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I love the way the BFG mudders look. But since I've um... matured I prefer the BFG all terrains. Love the offroad performance and the upgrade in the ride and handling (especially in the snow) was worth the little bit less aggressive look. Thats my 2 cents.
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:11 PM   #12
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I have the same BFG's on my Defender 90. They're the best.
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You do realize that both of those Tires are going to be extremely noisy, don't you?
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Toyo and homo both have four letters a two o's. Coincidence? No.

BFGs or Super Swampers...
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I have a set of BFG KM2s on my '79 Bronco. Good tires.

Also have some General Grabbers AT2s on a PathFinder. Like them just as much.
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You do realize that both of those Tires are going to be extremely noisy, don't you?
Nope they are not. I run the 285/75r16 BFG KM2's on my Toyota and 35/12.50R15 MT/R's on my jeep and neither make much noise. Tires have come a long ways. In fact i was just road testing a truck that had Schawbie Specials on it and they were way louder then my mudders.

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I love my KM2s. Those MFers stick like glue to every freaking rock I drive over. If you set the tire pressure correctly they ride smooth and for an aggressive tire are pretty quiet. They also balance well for 35s.

The only thing the KM2s lack is traction in hard pack snow. This is due to the lack of siping in the tread blocks. There have been a handful of times where I would have been up **** creek this past winter if it wasn't for the traction control in my Wrangler JK doing it's thing.

One of my buddies runs the Kevlar Wranglers and swears by them. My personal opinion is for off road use either tire will KICK ASS! For dry or wet pavement either tire is decent. For deep powder snow either tire is decent but for hard pack snow/ice I would definitely lean towards the Goodyears with their interior tread pattern that is more all terrain then mud terrain.

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I love my KM2s. Those MFers stick like glue to every freaking rock I drive over. If you set the tire pressure correctly they ride smooth and for an aggressive tire are pretty quiet. They also balance well for 35s.

The only thing the KM2s lack is traction in hard pack snow. This is due to the lack of siping in the tread blocks. There have been a handful of times where I would have been up **** creek this past winter if it wasn't for the traction control in my Wrangler JK doing it's thing.

One of my buddies runs the Kevlar Wranglers and swears by them. My personal opinion is for off road use either tire will KICK ASS! For dry or wet pavement either tire is decent. For deep powder snow either tire is decent but for hard pack snow/ice I would definitely lean towards the Goodyears with their interior tread pattern that is more all terrain then mud terrain.

Good luck.
Your post is right on the money! I just bought a set of 35s km2s for my powerwagon...great for the serious wheeler, however the weakness is definately the hard pack snow/Ice. I work in the field and mostly everyone out here runs either the Wrangler MTR (Kevlar) or the Wrangler DuraTrac(AT). Both are very impressive and versatility on the ice/snow makes them the perfect choice for both worlds. Swear by the Wrangler!
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I live in Portland so snow is not a big deal. The reason the MT/R is the better in the ice is because it has silica in the rubber. This allows it to stay flexible in very cold weather. I also like the fact the the MT/R has the third ply in the side wall as high tensile steel. I just don't like the look of them very much. O one last thing. the Mt/R stands for Maximum traction tire. So it is technically not a mudder.

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How much do a set of these tires cost?
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How much do a set of these tires cost?
I get them at cost so I don't know what you will pay but I just paid 187. per for my 285 bfg's The MT/R was about the same. Maybe a little less.
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I get them at cost so I don't know what you will pay but I just paid 187. per for my 285 bfg's The MT/R was about the same. Maybe a little less.
http://tirecrawler.com/shop/detail_t...roduct_id=6016

Here are some for $163.59 per tire....are these the same?
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http://tirecrawler.com/shop/detail_t...roduct_id=6016

Here are some for $163.59 per tire....are these the same?
These are the ones I just got.
http://tirecrawler.com/shop/detail_t...roduct_id=6027


I see there is No FET included in the price plus they nail you for 100 bucks shipping. I can do better then that for you

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These are the ones I just got.
http://tirecrawler.com/shop/detail_t...roduct_id=6027


I see there is No FET included in the price plus they nail you for 100 bucks shipping. I can do better then that for you
Back when I was into rock crawling Interco's were the tires that I liked. I have heard great things about the tires you just bought though.
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