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Old 06-06-2010, 07:40 AM   #1
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- "I will say this is the first time he's beaten me several times in one-on-one tackle drills, I think he's more comfortable with himself. He's playing faster. It's a big difference with him." - Wesley Woodyard

"I'm definitely more comfortable. Last year, everything was moving so fast. You had to stay on top of that, remember this, do this. Now it all comes back to you. You just get into a flow, and you can start to flow now instead of thinking." - Knowshon Moreno

"He's been impressive in terms of his pass protection, which as a rookie he could do it, but it wasn't always consistent. Now it's been pretty consistent. He gets open and he catches the ball in the passing game on a regular basis, daily, and should be an impact player in the passing game for us. He's in his second year, and he knows more what to do. We're expecting a good year from him in a lot of different ways." - Josh McDaniels



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Old 06-06-2010, 08:01 AM   #2
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I think the people that know a few things realized last year Moreno is a pretty good tailback.

There was just an amazingly large cadre of posters in 2009 that figured it was cool to jump on the "ridicule anything Bowlen/McStupidhead/Xantax do" bandwagon.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:23 AM   #3
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- "I will say this is the first time he's beaten me several times in one-on-one tackle drills, I think he's more comfortable with himself. He's playing faster. It's a big difference with him." - Wesley Woodyard

"I'm definitely more comfortable. Last year, everything was moving so fast. You had to stay on top of that, remember this, do this. Now it all comes back to you. You just get into a flow, and you can start to flow now instead of thinking." - Knowshon Moreno

"He's been impressive in terms of his pass protection, which as a rookie he could do it, but it wasn't always consistent. Now it's been pretty consistent. He gets open and he catches the ball in the passing game on a regular basis, daily, and should be an impact player in the passing game for us. He's in his second year, and he knows more what to do. We're expecting a good year from him in a lot of different ways." - Josh McDaniels



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I think you saw a different KO when he started fumbling and lost elusiveness with two hands on the ball all the time. Hopefully he can play faster and more elusive this year without the fumblitis in the back of his mind. Plus the rookie wall didn't help

As for the chart, 2nd year Emmit/LT and Walter averaged 100 yards per game and 10 TDs. I see KO closer to TJ than the other 3.
I hope not becuase TJ was a vagabound for serveral years before making a name for himself with a couple very good years in CHI/NY

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Old 06-06-2010, 08:28 AM   #4
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I'd like to think that the 2009 Broncos team was better than the 1990 Cowboys and 1975 Bears.

Moreno looked slow and out of control. He needs to speed it up and hit the hole quicker. If he does that, he'll have a much better season this year. I think we all expect that he's going to be better. The question is:

Will Moreno ever be an elite RB in the NFL...a player that was worth the #12 pick?
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I have a theory. Moreno may be more productive if the defense is not allowed to have routine contact with him 3 yards behind the LOS.
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I have a theory. Moreno may be more productive if the defense is not allowed to have routine contact with him 3 yards behind the LOS.
That's a crazy idea. How else can he prove he's a great runner if they don't make contact behind the LOS?

It's all part of the plan.
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I have a theory. Moreno may be more productive if the defense is not allowed to have routine contact with him 3 yards behind the LOS.
I think knowshon isn't good enough to dodge 11 tacklers all by himself. A 12th pick should be able to score a touchdown every play while playing beethovens fifth overture on a clarinet.

Knowshon is only good if he gets a couple of blocks and a whole. Any rb can perform when they get that for Christ sakes. We wasted a pick IMO.Buy a vowel.
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A 2nd year player in the same system picked in 1st round better look good in OTA, or we have a problem. It is OTAs and no one is hitting each other or going all out, it to early to determine anything right now.
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A 2nd year player in the same system picked in 1st round better look good in OTA, or we have a problem. It is OTAs and no one is hitting each other or going all out, it to early to determine anything right now.
Whole lot of guys from the previous regime that was never true of though. Sometimes first rounders just miss.

Moreno had a solid rookie campaign despite numerous hindrances. He isn't going to shoot himself in the foot this year with a holdout so with a little luck (avoiding injuries) and a little help (better blocking) he could become a standout talent.

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Whole lot of guys from the previous regime that was never true of tough.

Moreno had a solid rookie campaign despite numerous hindrances. He isn't going to shoot himself in the foot this year with a holdout so with a little luck (avoiding injuries) and a little help (better blocking) he could become a standout talent.
We read the fluff pieces before too like this one. Hopefully things click for Moreno, but we are not going to have good idea how he going to be this season, until we seen the first couple of games of the season.

But right now I not going to go overboard either way.
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A 2nd year player in the same system picked in 1st round better look good in OTA, or we have a problem. It is OTAs and no one is hitting each other or going all out, it to early to determine anything right now.
I thought after a year you'd come to your senses and stop sniveling.
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Glad to hear he is getting better. Any rookie must be given a reasonable amount of time to adjust to the league. I'm excited to see what he can do this year. Props to him for working hard on his game.
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I thought after a year you'd come to your senses and stop sniveling.
I am sorry, guess you will have to drop me down on the superfan list again for point out that 2nd year pro should look better then a rookie.
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:32 AM   #14
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I think the people that know a few things realized last year Moreno is a pretty good tailback.

There was just an amazingly large cadre of posters in 2009 that figured it was cool to jump on the "ridicule anything Bowlen/McStupidhead/Xantax do" bandwagon.
For some reason some people need to see 80 yard runs to consider a tailback good.
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We read the fluff pieces before too like this one. Hopefully things click for Moreno, but we are not going to have good idea how he going to be this season, until we seen the first couple of games of the season.

But right now I not going to go overboard either way.
He rushed for nearly 1K yards on less than 250 carries last year as a rookie. That after holding out in camp followed by screwing up his MCL in his first pre-season game. He also fought through a ton of early contact thanks to a massive decline in OL play that anyone could see. You really think there is no substance to having faith in Moreno taking the next step?

Fluff piece or no, he's a leading candidate for breakout player of the year in 2010.
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I am sorry, guess you will have to drop me down on the superfan list again for point out that 2nd year pro should look better then a rookie.
Elsid, you were Mr. Superfan when Shanny was in charge, Shanny could do no wrong. Any criticism of the Broncos, you got all torqued up about. Now you have a snide comment to make about everything in Broncoland.

It's not a stretch for people to say you were more a Shanny fan than you are a Bronco fan. Please.
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STFU! We should of drafted Suh.
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Elsid, you were Mr. Superfan when Shanny was in charge, Shanny could do no wrong. Any criticism of the Broncos, you got all torqued up about. Now you have a snide comment to make about everything in Broncoland.

It's not a stretch for people to say you were more a Shanny fan than you are a Bronco fan. Please.
Isn't TSI the one in charge of gauging SUPERFANDOM here?
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Elsid, you were Mr. Superfan when Shanny was in charge, Shanny could do no wrong. Any criticism of the Broncos, you got all torqued up about. Now you have a snide comment to make about everything in Broncoland.

It's not a stretch for people to say you were more a Shanny fan than you are a Bronco fan. Please.
Please, I think Shanahan was dam good coach, that earned little more time to straighten the ship, but I favor the team over any one player or coach. I have been pretty constant on everything when comes to the broncos and how I view them from today backwards, include my problems with Plummer, drafts, Shanahan and way the team failed to stick with defense coordinator or system. Fluff piece like this are just fluff pieces, no matter who is the head coach or the player they are talking about.

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He rushed for nearly 1K yards on less than 250 carries last year as a rookie. That after holding out in camp followed by screwing up his MCL in his first pre-season game. He also fought through a ton of early contact thanks to a massive decline in OL play that anyone could see. You really think there is no substance to having faith in Moreno taking the next step?

Fluff piece or no, he's a leading candidate for breakout player of the year in 2010.
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There are lot of players that show promise in their first season in the NFL, but the proof is can they built on it and adjust to what the defenses do to them when there is game film on them. Right now Moreno appears on the right track to be a productive back, but the things that worried me about him coming out of UGA still worry me, until I see how he performs in live games in upcoming season.
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Please, I think Shanahan was dam good coach, that earned little more time to straighten the ship, but I favor the team over any one player or coach. I have been pretty constant on everything when comes to the broncos and how I view them from today backwards, include my problems with Plummer, drafts, Shanahan and way the team failed to stick with defense coordinator or system. Fluff piece like this are just fluff pieces, no matter who is the head coach or the player they are talking about.
No, you gave the reasonable doubt much more favorably to Shanny than you've given to McDaniels. In fact, you've gone onto the side of doubt much more with McDaniels.

It's a matter of being fair, and you haven't been fair with McDaniels. You've picked on him way too much, you and many others. You haven't given him the fair chance you gave Shanny.
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I'd like to think that the 2009 Broncos team was better than the 1990 Cowboys and 1975 Bears.

Moreno looked slow and out of control. He needs to speed it up and hit the hole quicker. If he does that, he'll have a much better season this year. I think we all expect that he's going to be better. The question is:

Will Moreno ever be an elite RB in the NFL...a player that was worth the #12 pick?
You really have no clue. Moreno had no patience and his problems stemmed more from this lack of patience than any lack of speed.
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No, you gave the reasonable doubt much more favorably to Shanny than you've given to McDaniels. In fact, you've gone onto the side of doubt much more with McDaniels.

It's a matter of being fair, and you haven't been fair with McDaniels. You've picked on him way too much, you and many others. You haven't given him the fair chance you gave Shanny.
I am pretty sure that if the mane had existed when Shanahan first came in you would have seen the same "prove it" posts that you seen now with Mcdaniels. Shanahan due to his success earn more of grace period then any new coach walking into Dove Valley. Like I posted when Shanahan was fired, whoever the new coach was he was going to live in Shanahan's shadow, until he won in playoffs and Superbowl.
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