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Old 05-29-2010, 08:23 AM   #1
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Coach Josh McDaniels is now targeting training camp for first-round pick Demaryius Thomas' (foot) return.

Thomas caused a mini-stir earlier in the week when he followed up a Twitter post about going for x-rays with a one-word response: "Sad." He insists the two tweets were unrelated. A Broncos source replied, "I can assure you 100 percent that there was nothing 'sad' about his recent X-rays." The fact remains, however, that Thomas is behind schedule. He was originally expected to return for OTAs. It's time to reel in expectations for September.
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Old 05-29-2010, 08:36 AM   #2
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Old 05-29-2010, 08:37 AM   #3
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Scratch this kids rookie season and let him heal properly and work in practice. How many times have we seen a deal like this go bad?
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Scratch this kids rookie season and let him heal properly and work in practice. How many times have we seen a deal like this go bad?
yea, go tell any NFL coach to scratch his first round pick's rookie season because his foot is behind schedule, see waht they say.
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Old 05-29-2010, 08:40 AM   #5
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I'm not "reeling in expectations" if he is ready to go by training camp and suffers no setbacks with the foot. Smart to err on the side of caution with his injury.
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McDaniels has said from the very beginning that he doesn't expect to see Thomas or Decker until training camp. I don't know what makes anyone think he is behind schedule.
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McDaniels has said from the very beginning that he doesn't expect to see Thomas or Decker until training camp. I don't know what makes anyone think he is behind schedule.
When he was drafted the foot injury was "90% heeled".

Here are some of the reports regarding his injury. Bay Bay was expected back by now, Decker was the one that wasn't expected back until training camp. Some of us still sting from Willie Middlebrooks pre-existing foot injury, Darrius Watts' numb hand, and Ashley Lelie's soft heart. Sorry.

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Old 05-29-2010, 09:35 AM   #8
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When he was drafted the foot injury was "90% heeled".

Here are some of the reports regarding his injury. Bay Bay was expected back by now, Decker was the one that wasn't expected back until training camp. Some of us still sting from Willie Middlebrooks pre-existing foot injury, Darrius Watts' numb hand, and Ashley Lelie's soft heart. Sorry.

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Wasn't Paul Tovessi drafted with a known injury also?
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Scratch this kids rookie season and let him heal properly and work in practice. How many times have we seen a deal like this go bad?
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yea, go tell any NFL coach to scratch his first round pick's rookie season because his foot is behind schedule, see waht they say.
No, bpc's right. Thomas isn't a polished receiver in the Royal mold that just needs to learn the offense and he's ready to go. Thomas doesn't have any real work running most of the route tree. If he heals up and can hit camp running then he can probably be used as a deep threat and hopefully develop some down the stretch of the season, but he'll have a lot of work to do now and little time to do it.
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:21 AM   #11
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Spin all you want, but he has the opportunity to be a very good WR. I really don't care if it is this year or next. People should remember that McD drafts with a two year horizon in mind. If he contributes later in the season, that's fine.
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:49 AM   #12
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But we upgraded the WR position big time this season! 16-0 in 2010!
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:00 PM   #13
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But we upgraded the WR position big time this season! 16-0 in 2010!
I personally think our passing game will be a text book example of additional by subtraction next year.

Not that Marshall wasn't an elite player who won us games, he absolutely was. But last year we lived and died on Marshall's performance in too many games, and we utilized every other receiver in the way that best suited Marshall, not the way that best suited each individual receiver.

Now we'll see players put in the right roles to their skill sets. Royal is one obvious benefactor of this. At the same time our QB will become comfortable with multiple options and if one player is slacking another can step up.

The real key there is that Orton or Quinn, whomever the starter may be, needs to be able to make use of multiple targets. That would require making smart reads (Orton's strength) so that they find the right guy to go to, as well as a good deep ball (Quinn's strength) in order to make all the options a legitimate threads to a defense.

We'll see if either one of them has it. I'm not 100% sold on this offense as of yet, but if one of the QB's steps up and our interior OL works out we could see some very dynamic scoring.
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:18 PM   #14
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I personally think our passing game will be a text book example of additional by subtraction next year.

Not that Marshall wasn't an elite player who won us games, he absolutely was. But last year we lived and died on Marshall's performance in too many games, and we utilized every other receiver in the way that best suited Marshall, not the way that best suited each individual receiver.

Now we'll see players put in the right roles to their skill sets. Royal is one obvious benefactor of this. At the same time our QB will become comfortable with multiple options and if one player is slacking another can step up.

The real key there is that Orton or Quinn, whomever the starter may be, needs to be able to make use of multiple targets. That would require making smart reads (Orton's strength) so that they find the right guy to go to, as well as a good deep ball (Quinn's strength) in order to make all the options a legitimate threads to a defense.

We'll see if either one of them has it. I'm not 100% sold on this offense as of yet, but if one of the QB's steps up and our interior OL works out we could see some very dynamic scoring.
Yup, maxed out his value then traded his a**.
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:21 PM   #15
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I bet Tebow could heal him using Mr. Miyagi's healing technique.

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I personally think our passing game will be a text book example of additional by subtraction next year.

Not that Marshall wasn't an elite player who won us games, he absolutely was. But last year we lived and died on Marshall's performance in too many games, and we utilized every other receiver in the way that best suited Marshall, not the way that best suited each individual receiver.
Give me an example of how they did this.
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Wasn't Paul Tovessi drafted with a known injury also?
Tovessi was flag with a bone on bone condition in his knee. A broken big toe that is slowly healing isn't near the issue of a knee with zero cartilage left.
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Aside from rotoworld's spin on it, I haven't seen McDaniels put any real timetable on Thomas or Decker for that matter.

This is from Denverbroncos.com: (posted yesterday)

On Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker and Ryan Harris all recovering from foot injuries:
“At this point we’re going to err on the side of being real careful and not put them in a situation where (it’s) the last day of minicamp on June 13th and all of a sudden we have a foot injury. If there’s a guy who is borderline ready and not ready, we’re not going to push it. Really, we’ve told all the players August is the time we want you to be ready to go. If they are ready I think we’ll be excited to see them out there. They’re all taking a bunch of mental reps. They’re all in the film session and they’re all seeing the things were doing and getting all the information but hopefully everybody will be ready by August.”

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Old 05-29-2010, 04:52 PM   #20
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IMO he won't be a big part of the team until next yr.
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Wasn't Paul Tovessi drafted with a known injury also?
I was hoping I was the only one thinking Toviessi thoughts.
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:20 PM   #22
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I wasn't expecting him to do a great deal his rookie year anyway. We're talking about a guy that can run three routes and playing in an offense that Casey Wiegman said was "the hardest of any system to learn." I hope he can contribute, but Josh is always looking at the big picture.
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Scratch this kids rookie season and let him heal properly and work in practice. How many times have we seen a deal like this go bad?
I agree actually
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Old 05-30-2010, 12:10 AM   #24
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yea, go tell any NFL coach to scratch his first round pick's rookie season because his foot is behind schedule, see waht they say.
It baffles me that you can't let a poster, that you generally don't agree with, make a logical statement and you have to respond with such nonsense. Let him heal, we're obviously rebuilding right now.
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Spin all you want, but he has the opportunity to be a very good WR. I really don't care if it is this year or next. People should remember that McD drafts with a two year horizon in mind. If he contributes later in the season, that's fine.
Who doesn't draft with at least 2 year window? The point is, this was our first pick and it appears there's a strong possibility that it won't be a pick that affects the team positively, immediately. Most teams use their first pick for players that do.
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