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Old 05-27-2010, 01:48 PM   #1
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So my 57'' LCD Toshiba died and I had the Warranty on it, so I am getting my cash value back for my tv and turning it into a new LED I think.

I still have my 57'' LCD tv if anyone is interested in it also, one back panel is dead, but I'm sure if you're tech-y you could fix it (they didn't want to pay for the labor to replace it)

Anyone have a new LED yet? I'm not interested in 3D at all, as it just gives me a headache and is a new technology.

I am looking at Samsungs right now, but wondering if anyone knows about LG as they seem to review comparably.

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http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...=mncolBtm;rnav

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...ag=mncol;lst;3

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Old 05-27-2010, 01:53 PM   #2
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I have a 55" LED Samsung TV. It's bad ass. Highly suggest getting one from Samsung. My friend has a 55" LED Sony with the same hertz and pixels and all that and my tv looks much better (His is awesome though). Definitely suggest the new Samsungs. They're sweet.
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I have a 55" LED Samsung TV. It's bad ass. Highly suggest getting one from Samsung. My friend has a 55" LED Sony with the same hertz and pixels and all that and my tv looks much better (His is awesome though). Definitely suggest the new Samsungs. They're sweet.
What model?
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Anyone else doing any TV shopping recently? Thoughts ideas about LEDs vs LCDs?
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I just bought a new 47 inch LED LG, nice set.

The picture is insane, cant wait for football season.
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I've got a 46 inch Samsung LED. Picture is great.
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But hey Dogcow, if you can spend the money go with Sharp.
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Anyone else doing any TV shopping recently? Thoughts ideas about LEDs vs LCDs?

I saw the Samsung LED's. Totally badass. Just a bit out of what I could afford.


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I haven't looked at buying a new TV in nearly four years... why are Plasma sets so out of the picture now (pardon the pun).

I don't really understand it. I'm going to cry when my TV goes out. But, that has more to do with not being able to find the AmbiLight feature now. My 52" TV seems like a 96" screen b/c of the ambi castoff. I know it won't last forever but man I love my TV.

Anyhow, the response times on the Plasmas are so much faster than even the top line of LED/LCDs. 240Hz for the best LEDs vs 600Hz for the baseline Plasma. That means if you're playing Video Games or watching sporting events you have a lot less drag/blur/lag in the picture. I know people are concerned with the "half life" factor in Plasmas, but at 8000-10000 hours you are looking at 5 or 6 years. How many people don't buy a new TV every 5 or 6 years? And for roughly half the price of an LED.

I am probably just out of the loop and don't know the latest and greatest technology.
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Plasma's aren't huge mainly due to marketing strategy. These big corps need new sounding stuff to sell every few years to keep consumers in the game. They're phasing them out, and thats sad. Plasma's are great.
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Just make sure you read up on motion blur because it is still there in the newer LED's. If you want the most life like motion for sports etc. I'd go with Plasma. However, there are Pros and Cons to both. If it's going to be in a bright room Plasma may be a bad fit. I have an LED Samsung 7100 and I've noticed several times the issues with motion blur. I tend to watch sports on my Plasma even though it's older technology.

You might want to spend a little time reading this forum:

http://www.highdefforum.com/flat-pan...who-rules.html

Forgot to mention, the thread I linked to is called LCD vs. Plasma but LED is addressed in it.

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Plasma's aren't huge mainly due to marketing strategy. These big corps need new sounding stuff to sell every few years to keep consumers in the game. They're phasing them out, and thats sad. Plasma's are great.
Plasmas aren't being phased out.
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Plasmas aren't being phased out.

I think it depends on the manufacturer. Some are, some are not.


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I think it depends on the manufacturer. Some are, some are not.


Yeah, a couple manufactures got away from them but there are still many that are producing them.
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I was kind of interested in the LED due to size and weight. Also, Plasmas are big and heavy with reflective glass screens. I'm sure I can close the windows, and we do most viewing at night. I've never really noticed motion blur on my 120hz playing BFBC2 and COD, Gears, anything yet, every once in a while on sports but not so much...

I guess I should put Plasma's back into the mix? Especially due to falling prices.
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Just make sure you read up on motion blur because it is still there in the newer LED's. If you want the most life like motion for sports etc. I'd go with Plasma. However, there are Pros and Cons to both. If it's going to be in a bright room Plasma may be a bad fit. I have an LED Samsung 7100 and I've noticed several times the issues with motion blur. I tend to watch sports on my Plasma even though it's older technology.

You might want to spend a little time reading this forum:

http://www.highdefforum.com/flat-pan...who-rules.html

Forgot to mention, the thread I linked to is called LCD vs. Plasma but LED is addressed in it.

From the opening post in the quoted forum... I agree 100% with the review.

LCD
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lightweight, smaller screen sizes available, good in brightly lit rooms, considered safer when used as a computer monitor, non glare matte screens...Maybe slightly more energy efficient unless the majority of your viewing habits are movies, no break in period, take less consideration to set up and use.

Cons

Glare will still be a consideration if buying a high end LCD/LED as these also use glass screens to render better blacks and higher contrast ratios, cost more than larger Plasma esp the high end sets, more likely to be damaged as the plastic matte screens are not resistant to even small impacts, shorter life span backlight will eventually need to be replaced, Plasma will dim over time but will still be functioning long after the LCD is in the trash bid, viewing angles even with the new LED/LCD off axis viewing is still a large concern (fighting for that sweet spot directly in front of the screen), motion blur with fast moving images even with 240 hz processing is way behind the the speed of Plasma. Black level detail while LCD is getting better at producing black level the fine detail contained in these darker images is lost. Unnatural color processing in the non high end sets life like skin tones are nearly impossible to attain. 240 hz processing causes film to appear as though shot in video ( I can't imagine watching the "Godfather" and having it appear as if it is a soap opera)

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Large screen size virtually no screens less than 42" in size. Deep black levels and fine dark area detail. Good natural color processing with great skin tone reproduction. Long time investment although plasma will dim over time it will take around 100,000 of use to get to half life of the panel. Durable heavy glass screens are much more injury proof than the LCD matte screens (Dont believe it? you can punch a hole in the LCD matte screen with your finger!) Virtually no motion blur image processing is approximatly 1000 times faster than LCD. Off axis viewing is a non issue with plasma ( no fighting for the sweet spot) Cost less a good 50" plasma will be cheaper than a 46" 1st tier manufactured LCD. Actually can be more energy efficient if properly calibrated.

Cons

Glass screens have glare issues in brightly lit rooms. Burn in plasma can still suffer from this problem, static images for long periods of time can be damaging (neglect from the consumer is the major contributing factor here) Weight heavier than the matte screen LCD because of the additional weight of the glass. Large size only available in 42" or larger (not good if space is a concern) Break-in period for proper aging of the plasma cells this is still strongly recommended during the first 200 hours of use. (some videophiles consider this a perk kinda like pampering your new "baby")

Well there you have it hope this highlights the good and bad points of each technology for current and future owners of HDTV
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What kind of Brands should I be looking at if I do look into plasma? It looks like Samsung makes a nice thin plasma as well.
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I've got a 46 inch Samsung LED. Picture is great.

This is mine as well and it's just the best television of any kind I've ever owned. I looked at a lot of t-v's, from plasma through the LCD's and LED made by Samsung IS the way to go.
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I'm dubious of people who already own a high end television.

We all know that we will say anything to justify a purchase especially one of this degree, hell, I justified purchasing 5 random pens I don't need today because they "glide over the paper" lol.

I think I will be taking my PS3 into the local stores, trying out games on them, and comparing and contrasting.

Btw, anyone know where to get an HD football video? To check refresh/blur, should I just rent/buy remember the titans or something? lol
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Just make sure you read up on motion blur because it is still there in the newer LED's. If you want the most life like motion for sports etc. I'd go with Plasma. However, there are Pros and Cons to both. If it's going to be in a bright room Plasma may be a bad fit. I have an LED Samsung 7100 and I've noticed several times the issues with motion blur. I tend to watch sports on my Plasma even though it's older technology.

You might want to spend a little time reading this forum:

http://www.highdefforum.com/flat-pan...who-rules.html

Forgot to mention, the thread I linked to is called LCD vs. Plasma but LED is addressed in it.
That's the conclusion I came to. My problem is why aren't more people making Plasma anymore? The technology is progressing and it continues to outperform LCD's with deeper colors, higher refresh rates. They have fixed most of the problems with heat and burn in with newer technologies. Yet many companies are abandoning them. Why?
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I suggest LG. I have a 42". I got it at best buy for a killer price. Just over $800 this past Febuary. I usually don't make big purchases at Best Buy but the LG was discounted at over $100. TV looks beautiful on HD channels and Ps3 is sick.
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That's the conclusion I came to. My problem is why aren't more people making Plasma anymore? The technology is progressing and it continues to outperform LCD's with deeper colors, higher refresh rates. They have fixed most of the problems with heat and burn in with newer technologies. Yet many companies are abandoning them. Why?
One explanation from the thread I posted:

Manufacturers will want to sell you the newer technology and thinner designs for more "profit" than a technology that cost less and sells for less, even though plasma provides a better picture quality! LCDs were meant for bright rooms, do you expect a display designed for bright rooms to have excellent black levels while maintaining excellent shadow detail? It hasn't happened yet, then there's the motion blur they try to hide by using 120Hz-240Hz processing and interpolation giving you that "soap opera" effect! Plasma doesn't suffer from either problems mentioned above!
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My biggest worry with Plasma is when I am watching the game we like to open the place up and light pours in.

If it's too reflective, it will suck.
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My biggest worry with Plasma is when I am watching the game we like to open the place up and light pours in.

If it's too reflective, it will suck.
Like I said, pros and cons to each of them. There are some new Panny Plasmas out with anti-reflective screens.
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