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Old 05-17-2010, 12:18 PM   #1
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Andre Johnson missed first ota cause he's unhappy with contract that has five years left. 2 years ago he signed 8 year extension worth 60 mil and 15 in guarantees. 5 years left counting this one.

Brandon Marshall effect?
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:23 PM   #2
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Too bad we already traded Hillis.
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Johnson is doing it wrong. The only way to truly guarantee yourself a record contract is to act like a jackass in practice and get yourself arrested multiple times.
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5 years left on his contract....GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
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maybe he shouldnt have signed it. this isnt like a late round rookie becoming a star, he signed this knowing full well how long this contract went.

btw, his agent is his uncle.
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:31 PM   #6
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5 years left on his contract....GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
Seriously. If I were an owner, here's my default stance.

One year left? No problem.

Two years left? You better be performing WAAAAAAY above your pay and not be a "Goodell problem".

Three or more years left? You better be the consensus #1 player in the league at any position, have a few SB MVPs under your belt and be a model citizen off the field. In other words, no owner should ever be in a position to entertain this.

5 years.....C'mon man!
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:38 PM   #8
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Maybe he's trying to renegotiate to get more of that to be guaranteed. 15M guaranteed is pretty small yeah? To me it's fairly understandable, I might do the same thing. He's arguably the best WR in the league.
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I can understand guys that perform at an elite level and are stuck with crappy rookie deals because maybe they weren't drafted high, but this guy was the #3 pick overall back in 2003 and collected about $30 mil from his rookie contract. Then the team sits down with him in 2007, 2 years before his rookie deal is up, and signs him to a top WR paygrade extension. He then collects well over $20 mil in salary and bonuses over the next three years with that extension and complains?

It's not like he's clearly outplayed his contract ala Marshall. This guy has been shown the money since day one....and hasn't really put up elite numbers (mostly because of injury) until arguably the last two seasons.
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I can understand guys that perform at an elite level and are stuck with crappy rookie deals because maybe they weren't drafted high, but this guy was the #3 pick overall back in 2003 and collected about $30 mil from his rookie contract. Then the team sits down with him in 2007, 2 years before his rookie deal is up, and signs him to a top WR paygrade extension. He then collects well over $20 mil in salary and bonuses over the next three years with that extension and complains?

It's not like he's clearly outplayed his contract ala Marshall. This guy has been shown the money since day one....and hasn't really put up elite numbers (mostly because of injury) until arguably the last two seasons.
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:43 PM   #11
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He's arguably the best WR in the league.
He needs to get in the EZ more IMO.

9 TDs is his best over a season and he's only done that once. Considering how much that team throws the ball, that number needs to be higher.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:08 PM   #12
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This is why we got rid of BM. I can see him doing the same thing as Andre here, in two years time.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:17 PM   #13
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Lol. His uncle negotiated his current contract so he could save 3% he would pay to an agent.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:19 PM   #14
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This is why we got rid of BM. I can see him doing the same thing as Andre here, in two years time.
That would be pretty hilarious if the all time highest paid WR did that.

I'm glad that circus is gone personally.
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This is why we got rid of BM. I can see him doing the same thing as Andre here, in two years time.
that's just, false
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Andre Johnson has five years remaining on a $60 million contract he signed with the Texans in 2007. The star receiver feels that he's already outplayed that contract, however, and was missing from the start of Houston's voluntary organized team activities on Monday.

Johnson, who led the NFL in receiving yards last season (1,569 yards), is scheduled to make $5.8 million this season, according to the Houston Chronicle.

Texans general manager Rick Smith told Houston media outlets on Monday that Johnson was missing because he was unhappy with his current contract.

Since Johnson signed his contract, the Arizona Cardinals' Larry Fitzgerald received a four-year, $40 million deal and new Miami Dolphins receiver Brandon Marshall agreed to a four-year, $47 million contract after he was traded from the Denver Broncos.

Smith told KRIV-TV in Houston that he was "not real worried" about the four-time Pro Bowler's absence.

"He's got five years left on [the deal he signed in 2007]. We're willing to sit down and talk with him and he knows that," Smith told KRIV.

Still, Smith said that re-doing a contract with five years remaining will be challenging.

"It's very difficult," Smith told KRIV. "It's something that's not customary, but we've got a relationship with him and he knows we are willing to sit down and talk with him."

Johnson has 587 receptions for 7,948 yards and 42 touchdowns in seven NFL seasons -- all with Houston.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:55 PM   #17
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Andre Johnson missed first ota cause he's unhappy with contract that has five years left. 2 years ago he signed 8 year extension worth 60 mil and 15 in guarantees. 5 years left counting this one.

Brandon Marshall effect?
And Boldin. Both got paid in a year when neither technically had to. I would argue that Johnson is at least as good, if not better, than both and deserves a payout. I don't blame him.
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Old 05-17-2010, 02:02 PM   #18
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Any chance he's just trying to get traded to another team? It worked for a few other receivers lately.
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Old 05-17-2010, 02:03 PM   #19
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Any chance he's just trying to get traded to another team? It worked for a few other receivers lately.
With five years left they have to know that's not going to happen - even with no cap hit.
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Old 05-17-2010, 02:23 PM   #20
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Obviously, Andre is no math major. Someone finally just told him that he's going to be 33 years old when his current contract expires.

There's a reason you should never sign an 8 year contract in the NFL.
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And Boldin. Both got paid in a year when neither technically had to. I would argue that Johnson is at least as good, if not better, than both and deserves a payout. I don't blame him.
Andre is definitely better than both.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:33 PM   #22
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Andre Johnson is probably the best WR in football. And in general, I don't have a huge problem with something like this because these guys can get cut or get hurt pretty easily.

But IMO it was pretty moronic to sign an 8-year deal in the first place. Such a long time in football. I know that he got some nice guaranteed money because of it, but still... I don't see how any agent in football would even negotiate longer than 5.
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:42 AM   #23
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Johnson is the best WR in football IMHO. However, he does not score TD's like some other WR's. That being said, he signed that deal in good faith and to stay in HOU for a long while. To come back and sit out just 2 years later is no longer a good faith option. It is a change in Philosophy. And to that, Rick Smith should say thanks but no thanks for a couple more years.....
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5 years left, good luck.

Inmates are running the assylum.

He cried out in 2 years and now wants to cry out in 2 more?

Haynsworth sitting on his as for 100 million?
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Andre Johnson is probably the best WR in football. And in general, I don't have a huge problem with something like this because these guys can get cut or get hurt pretty easily.

But IMO it was pretty moronic to sign an 8-year deal in the first place. Such a long time in football. I know that he got some nice guaranteed money because of it, but still... I don't see how any agent in football would even negotiate longer than 5.
he doesnt have an agent, he was his own agent with his uncle as his advisor.

id tell him too bad, this **** is ridiculous now. if he got hurt or cut today, he banked something like 35 million from the NFL. boo hoo. he signed the contract, now he can play with it.
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