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A Different Kind of Quarterback
By Gray Caldwell DenverBroncos.com ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Tim Tebow is different. Different from Sam Bradford. Different from Jimmy Clausen. Different from Colt McCoy. Different from Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Different in the sense that in addition to his 9,285 passing yards for 88 touchdowns and just 18 interceptions at the University of Florida, he gained 2,947 yards on the ground with an SEC-record 57 rushing touchdowns. Different because he rushed for a touchdown on a designed quarterback scramble on his first play as a Gator and operated mostly out of the shotgun for the rest of his collegiate career. Different because he was the first player in NCAA history to win the Heisman Trophy as a sophomore. Different because he's a two-time BCS National Champion. But the truth is every quarterback has traits that make him just as different from all the others. "Rivers doesn't do it the way that Brees does," Head Coach Josh McDaniels said. "Manning doesn't do it the way that Brady does. Donovan McNabb doesn't do it the way that any of those guys do it. Ben Roethlisberger is different than those five. To me, there's not a carbon copy that's being sold around the NFL." Rather, there is a set of traits that coaches hope every quarterback possesses. "You want a guy that is tough and smart, a great leader, has those football intangibles that you're looking for and will work hard to fix some things that maybe he doesn't do perfectly," McDaniels said. After watching Tebow's tape and meeting with him at the NFL Scouting Combine, in Denver and in Gainesville, Fla., the Broncos were convinced that he fits that description, trading up to pick him with the 25th overall selection in the 2010 NFL Draft. Tebow is the player who rushed for a 20-yard touchdown on a broken leg at Nease High School. He is the quarterback who famously apologized to Florida fans after a loss to Ole Miss, promising that "you will never see any player in the entire country play as hard as I will play the rest of the season, and you'll never see someone push the rest of the team as hard as I will push everybody the rest of the season, and you'll never see a team play harder than we will the rest of the season." The Gators closed the season with a National Championship. He is the prospect who heard the critiques about his throwing motion, so he worked on it to the tune of more than 900 passes a day to ensure he will be ready for the NFL when his number is called. He said his new technique "became muscle memory a long time ago." And he is the rookie who vows to do everything he can to prove his doubters wrong, and reward McDaniels and the Broncos for taking a chance on him. "Just like it was when I was at Florida, my biggest thrill was doing things for Coach (Urban) Meyer, winning championships and being able to help him," Tebow said. "That's going to be my greatest joy in Denver -- to repay Coach McDaniels for believing in me." Tebow readily admits that he has plenty to work on in order to make that happen. In his first minicamp with the team, he worked to improve on his footwork, drops, cadences, identifying middle linebackers and going through his progressions while in the pocket. "That is my goal -- I want to be a great pocket passer," the rookie said. "That's something I'm working on. Then if it breaks down and you have an opportunity to do something, you add on with God-given ability." McDaniels has stated that he expects him to operate out of the pocket just like every other signal caller on the squad. But that doesn't mean the team will limit what made Tebow so successful in college -- if he earns the right to get on the field. "We are going to try to use the talents and abilities of the players we have to make sure that they are always doing something that they can be successful with," McDaniels said. "If he can do something out of the pocket and he deserves to be on the field -- that's the biggest thing -- then maybe that would warrant us doing some other things." "I won't deny that he gives you an opportunity to create some un-gameplanned production," he continued. "You draw the play up there on the board and all of a sudden it doesn't necessarily look as pretty as I thought it would, but then he makes it work some other way. There is an element to his game like that." Some of that un-gameplanned production with the Gators is what helped Tebow generate an SEC-record 12,232 yards of total offense in his career. He averaged 7.25 yards every time he touched the ball, which ranks third in conference history. His 145 total touchdowns broke the previous SEC record by 23 scores. He threw at least one touchdown pass in 38 of his 41 starts, completed 66.43 percent of his passes and racked up a 170.79 pass efficiency rating -- an SEC all-time record. Coaches have already seen that the rookie's work ethic is exactly as advertised. "Curfew is like a bad word for him, and it's not because he wants to be in a tavern somewhere," McDaniels said. "We've got a long way to go, but we think that if you put a guy with great work ethic together with some people that -- hopefully we know what we're talking about -- maybe we can make something pretty productive out of it." The changes Tebow will have to make to succeed at the next level don't faze former Bronco and current NFL on FOX color commentator John Lynch. "Will he have some issues translating his skills from college to the NFL?" Lynch asked at his annual Salute the Stars Awards luncheon. "Yeah, but so will (No. 1 overall pick) Sam Braford. I just think there's a positive feeling to what's going on around here." Now the quarterback who closed out his college career by setting Bowl Championship Series records with 482 yards passing and 533 yards of total offense in a 51-24 victory against Cincinnati in the Allstate Sugar Bowl is looking to keep that momentum rolling into his professional career. Still, Tebow recognizes that all the accomplishments in the world don't make him a sure thing in NFL. He joins a team that has an established starter in Kyle Orton, a former first-round pick in Brady Quinn and a 2009 draft pick in Tom Brandstater already in the quarterbacks room, two of which have a year in McDaniels' system under their belts. He knows he is going to have to work hard to even be able to compete with those players and earn the respect of the locker room. And he can't wait to get started. "Now it's just time to push into another gear and just go and grind and not show my face until maybe after my rookie year, to be honest with you," Tebow said. "I'm just excited about that. I'm excited about working, learning and competing, because that's what I'm all about. That's who I am." One person who believes the rookie can make the jump is John Elway. "He wants to get better, he wants to learn, he wants to change his release to make him better," Elway told a group of reporters. "I think that any time you have a guy that's that open to learning, and then you've got a guy like Josh, who's a young guy who has coached Tom Brady and Matt Cassel and done a great job with them, I think it's a great relationship. He'll continue to learn. I think Tim is too much of a competitor not to get a shot in this league. "It will be interesting to see how good he can be." ![]() |
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Screw it, I'm ready for TC......
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I'm all for starting him this year. Screw waiting a year or two, let's not kill his drive, his inspiration, and everything he's got going for him right now. I doubt there's any other QB (rookie) right now, who has done his homework to be ready for the NFL as Tebow has. You can not possibly put that much work and not be ready. Here, for Tebow to start the season as our new QB! ![]() |
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We've got OTA (Organized Tebow Activities) next week, and then TC (Tebow Camp) in July!
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ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH! |
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I feel like hopping on the Tebow bandwagon for these funny jokes.
Internet meme for sure.. |
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That is actually a very pragmatic way to look at Tebow ... his style is different, sure.
Still, I'm thinking toughness and leadership - which he's obviosly loaded with - might not go as far in the NFL as they did in college. That Hitler video is classic.... |
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I am still not buying the media spin that Tebow is "different" kind of QB. He is athletic kid that played in Spread Option system and was successful. He's no different then Pat White two season ago or Kordell Stewart from decade plus ago.
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Thats not totaly true. Kordell Stewart had some major mental issues, and Pat White has been on double rats since high school trying to get his weight over 180 pounds (The anti Jamarcus Russell).
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The more I read about Tebow and the quotes coming out about him from Dove Valley, the more I think he earns the starting job from day one. I think his unique skill set will give NFL defenses fits. Clearly, he is the QB of the future in Denver. Teams have been successful with rookie QB's in recent years - it's not like it used to be. The key will be how well the OL plays and the effectiveness of the running game. We can't expect him to carry the team as a rookie but he can be effective if the offense is balanced.
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I also hate to say it but Tebow work ethic is also getting a little to much media hype. There are players coming into NFL and are already there that work their ass off to improve too. The media and some fans are setting this kid up for a lot of criticism if he doesn't live up to the hype. |
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I must say I laughed at McDaniels using the word tavern instead of bar.
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Sounds like mock.
![]() Especially if he was talking about Alphonso Smith. Last edited by broncogary; 05-15-2010 at 06:31 AM.. |
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Those comparisons are absurd. While what you say about any or every QB working hard is true, Tebow has had more to work for than any QB currently trying to make it in the NFL or fighting for a spot rookie or vet. Quite frankly, he's been on the spotlight and the kid has done nothing but win all his life. He can't win in the eyes of the critics. There's been QB with bad mechanics that have made it to the NFL and nobody cared. Tebow gets scrutinized for every move he makes. Tebow in in a class by himself. He's athletic, physical fit, relentless, passionate, inspired, good arm, an improviser, and has a great heart. That's a good tangible/intangible skills combo to have all wrapped up in one person. Not many QB have all of that. You can easily mistake him for Pat White or Kordell Stewart but being a "scrambler" QB doesn't make Tebow one of them. Come on man. That's low!There's only one way to find out. I like my chances of being right on this one. Last edited by strafen; 05-15-2010 at 07:50 AM.. |
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This is a guy that dominated College as Soph... Which is impressive because that makes him 19-20 yrs old. Scary thought, he is not even close to a finished product.
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My guess is they tried to get cute, they thought they could grab him in the second round and were shocked when Denver took him at 25.
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It'd be nice to hear some examples of "different" quarterbacks who succeeded. |
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In the end of the day, it about making plays from the pocket, and the question for Tebow, like any QB coming from this spread-option read, can he do that. |
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Hard not to like Tebow, he is saying all the right things. I'd love to see him develop the way he sees it going (sitting on the bench learning this year) using him in Wild Horse stuff for now. I'd love for Orton to have a fantastic year. I'd love to see Orton, Quinn and Tebow all on the field at the same time (that's got all sorts of potential). I'd love to see Quinn, Moreno and Tebow all on the field together. This offense has so many mismatch possibilties it's going to be utterly wierd. Add in bigger, better olineman and yah, good stuff.
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