I hate pop music. So why can't I stop listening to Lady Gaga?

[Taco John]

This whole thing bewilders me. My favorite band in the world right now is Modest Mouse. I don't know if they are popular on the radio or not, I just know that all of my friends must be deaf because they don't understand the brilliance of their off beat sound and ingenius (more than genius) lyrics.

But on a whim - actually it was the fact that I love the Telephone video and the complex symbolism in it - I decided to pick up a Lady Gaga CD and see what all the fuss was about.

Holy crap I can't stop listening to the effing thing. I mean - I think she's a musical genius. I'm pretty sure that twenty years from now, she's going to be touring and we'll be able to log onto the Drudge Report and find out that she's preparing for her "I'm 43 and still sexy" tour, with a body of work behind her that will be impressive.

My wife thought I flipped my lid when I suggested we get tickets to see her show this August when it comes to Portland. "Are you Ok, honey? You know this isn't those wierdo mouse guys, right? The place is going to be packed with teenage girls and gay guys."

And I thought, "that will be absolutely fabulous!"

I think there must be some subliminal stuff in there somewhere. I'm not supposed to like pop music... But I.... keep.... hitting.... PLAY!

[broncocalijohn]

! I feel the same way but didnt buy the cd. We do have a few songs on a mix cd that my kids and wife listens to while in the car. I always suggest #5 and #13 that are Lady Gaga songs. Catchy and fun to listen to while driving to Phoenix (last trip to spring training). Long ago, i did bye the Spice Girls as I thought many of those songs were very catchy. It is what we call "Guilty Pleasure". Steve Jones of the Sex Pistols used to like Journey when he was banging away in the 70s. Enjoy it. No one needs to know

[Hogan11]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

It is what we call "Guilty Pleasure". Steve Jones of the Sex Pistols used to like Journey when he was banging away in the 70s. Enjoy it. No one needs to know

Bingo...although the truly brave will always openly admit it.

I have a lot of pop in my collection, some of it classic, some of it incredibly cheesy, all of it cool by me.

Steve Jones Speaking of the Pistols, did you know that Sid Vicious was a huge ABBA fan? Look it up, it's true...just goes to show you.

[broncocalijohn]

I also believe Alice Cooper liked The Bee Jees. Could be wrong but I swear i heard an interview with him and he admitted his guilty pleasure.

[Smiling Assassin27]

The hooks in her songs are killer. I question my own opinion on this, however. Are they really, or has pop music in general just went into the crapper (see Tik Tok/Kesha) and this is just the cream of the crap?

She's not doing anything overly complicated or innovative, she's just doing the current pop thing in a way that doesn't suck. Add the visual element and she reminds me of Madonna in the 80's before she totally killed it with Vogue. I'm giving her a thumbs up for now.

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

The hooks in her songs are killer. I question my own opinion on this, however. Are they really, or has pop music in general just went into the crapper (see Tik Tok/Kesha) and this is just the cream of the crap?

She's not doing anything overly complicated or innovative, she's just doing the current pop thing in a way that doesn't suck. Add the visual element and she reminds me of Madonna in the 80's before she totally killed it with Vogue. I'm giving her a thumbs up for now.

Lady Gaga's look is just weird. Madonna's look (with the bare tummy) was sexy. I fail to see a resemblance between the two...

[Smiling Assassin27]

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Lady Gaga's look is just weird. Madonna's look (with the bare tummy) was sexy. I fail to see a resemblance between the two...

I'm not saying they resemble each other, I'm saying they both have a visual element that is considered unique for the time (granted, 'weird' may fit LG's look), which sets them apart from other artists of the genre.

[Taco John]

I personally think she makes Madonna look like open mic night.

[El Guapo]

Probably because shes a man, man.



http://www.timesnewsnetwork.com/lady...dite-pictures/

[Taco John]

Not buying it.

[El Guapo]

Ah, denial... the first step to recovery is acceptance. Just accept the fact that you love you some man.

[Hogan11]

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Lady Gaga's look is just weird. Madonna's look (with the bare tummy) was sexy. I fail to see a resemblance between the two...

I can see it, it's almost like the next logical step with the whole Madonna persona thing.

Where I get lost is when people say she has great hooks in the music because from what I've heard and seen thus far, it's just the same old danceclub electro pop with that much bigger visual element.

It's harmless enough though, whaddever melts your butter.

[Bronco Bob]

It's a rumor that has taken the Internets by storm ever since she was seen at a concert in the UK sporting what appeared to be a penis under her dress: Lady Gaga is a hermaphrodite.
While she has been getting naked for numerous magazines we've never heard of and teaming up on some new songs with Michael Bolton (yes, really), the star has yet to address the accusations that she has both male and female genitalia.
Until now. And her vagina is far from pleased.
About the hermaphrodite rumors, Lady Gaga told Australian radio station: "My beautiful vagina is very offended. I'm not offended; my vagina is offended."

A screen-capture from the concert that sparked the hermaphrodite rumor.

"I'm not embarrassed. I sold four million records in six months; I'm not embarrassed about anything. I think this is society's reaction to a strong woman."
"The idea that we equate strength with men and a penis is a symbol of male strength, you know, it is what it is. But like I said," the dance-pop diva reiterated, "I am not offended at all, but my vagina might be a little bit upset."

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by Taco John

This whole thing bewilders me. My favorite band in the world right now is Modest Mouse. I don't know if they are popular on the radio or not, I just know that all of my friends must be deaf because they don't understand the brilliance of their off beat sound and ingenius (more than genius) lyrics.

But on a whim - actually it was the fact that I love the Telephone video and the complex symbolism in it - I decided to pick up a Lady Gaga CD and see what all the fuss was about.

Holy crap I can't stop listening to the effing thing. I mean - I think she's a musical genius. I'm pretty sure that twenty years from now, she's going to be touring and we'll be able to log onto the Drudge Report and find out that she's preparing for her "I'm 43 and still sexy" tour, with a body of work behind her that will be impressive.

My wife thought I flipped my lid when I suggested we get tickets to see her show this August when it comes to Portland. "Are you Ok, honey? You know this isn't those wierdo mouse guys, right? The place is going to be packed with teenage girls and gay guys."

And I thought, "that will be absolutely fabulous!"

I think there must be some subliminal stuff in there somewhere. I'm not supposed to like pop music... But I.... keep.... hitting.... PLAY!

Sorry TJ, but it appears you are about to embrace your gay side. The only cure is to drink alot and watch John Wayne movies for a week straight.

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by Maverick_7

Probably because shes a man, man.



http://www.timesnewsnetwork.com/lady...dite-pictures/

Oh man her balls are bigger than her Adam's Apple!

[Hogan11]

I honestly think that if Lady Gaga was really a hermaphrodite, she'd be exploiting it to the hilt for all that it was worth.

[FADERPROOF]

I'm fully convinced that she's a man, and any guy who likes her might be ready to come out of the closet.

[Dudeskey]

Reading this **** a while back about her creeped me the **** out. IMO I think they're reaching trying to somehow tie this to MK Ultra...
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

An small piece

Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet

Aug 4th, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Vigilant Reports The symbolism surrounding Lady Gaga is so blatant that one might wonder if it’s all a sick joke. Illuminati symbolism is becoming so clear that analyses like this one becomes a simple exercise of pointing out the obvious. Her whole persona (whether its an act or not) is a tribute to mind control, where being vacuous, incoherent and absent minded becomes a fashionable thing.


Essential Background Information

What do you mean by “mind control”? I suggest you research “project MK Ultra” to get a little background information on the subject. Here’s a quick overview taken from the surprisingly accurate Wikipedia:

Project MK-ULTRA, or MKULTRA, was the code name for a covert CIA mind-control and chemical interrogation research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. The program began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, and it used United States citizens as its test subjects. The published evidence indicates that Project MK-ULTRA involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methods, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.
Project MK-ULTRA was first brought to wide public attention in 1975 by the U.S. Congress, through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms’ destruction order.
Although the CIA insists that MK-ULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MK-ULTRA was abandoned a “cover story.”

An outgrowth of that project is unofficially referred to as “Project Monarch”. It is a mind control technique which exposes the subject to a trauma so violent that his/her mind creates a dissociation. The victim’s brain becomes compartmentalized and a new personality, which is then molded and educated by the manipulators, emerges.

“When a person is undergoing trauma induced by electroshock, a feeling of light-headedness is evidenced; as if one is floating or fluttering like a butterfly. There is also a symbolic representation pertaining to the transformation or metamorphosis of this beautiful insect: from a caterpillar to a cocoon (dormancy, inactivity), to a butterfly (new creation) which will return to its point of origin. Such is the migratory pattern that makes this species unique.”



Butterfly Symbolism


During their reeducation, subjects are said to be exposed to numerous symbols such as trees, spider webs, masks, mazes, butterflies, etc. They are also shown movies which contain specific symbols (or “triggers”) such as The Wizard of Oz and many Disney Movies. The same way those subjects are brainwashed and reeducated, mass media conducts a large scale mind control project, which starts at birth with Disney movies and continues with Hollywood flicks and music videos.
OMG! What does this crazy stuff has to do with Lady Gaga? I luv her!!
What we must retain here is the symbolism Monarch project engendered and its use in mass media. Monarch is a type of butterfly and became the ultimate “insider’s”symbol of mind control. Symbolism surrounding Lady Gaga, in her pictures and videos, mixes those symbols with occultism of secret societies.. Her vacuous, robotic and slightly degenerate persona embodies all the “symptoms” of a mind control victim. Let’s look at what Lady Gaga represents, starting by the basics: her name
Her Name

Gaga is a term that immediately refers to absent mindedness. Here are some synonyms taken from a thesaurus:

Given to lighthearted silliness: empty-headed, featherbrained, flighty, frivolous, frothy, giddy, harebrained, lighthearted, scatterbrained, silly. Slang birdbrained, dizzy.
Afflicted with or exhibiting irrationality and mental unsoundness: brainsick, crazy, daft, demented, disordered, distraught, dotty, insane, lunatic, mad, maniac, maniacal, mentally ill, moonstruck, off, touched, unbalanced, unsound, wrong.

“Gaga” is probably the easiest word to say in the English language, as it is often the first sound emitted by babies trying to imitate speech. So her name basically says: I’m a lady and I’m empty-headed. This empty head can filled with any crap you want. Imitate me young people. This state of mind is achieved after successful mind control.
Her name is also said to be inspired by Queen’s song “Radio Gaga”. The video of this song contains many scenes of the 1927 movie Metropolis. As seen in my article onBeyonce/Sasha Fierce, the motion picture tells the story of a woman from the working class that was chosen by the elite to give life to a robot, through a mix of science and Black magic.

Scene from Metropolis – Maria giving her likeness to a robot. Is this a metaphor for mind control? Notice the inverted pentagram in the background: Black magic and Satanism.

This robot becomes a sexy and alluring performer and is given the goal to corrupt the working class. References to this movie abound in music videos, as if it was very significant for the occult elite. Madonna, Beyonce, Kylie Minogue and many others have taken the likeness of this female robot and, as you’ll see in the “Paparazzi” video, Lady Gaga also continues this “tradition”.
Her Logo


Her logo is pretty revealing and particularly fitting. Its a headless female body with a bolt of lightning going through her and exiting her genitalia. There is once again a focus on the lack of conscious thought by the singer. The body looks like the weird headless mannequins you find at clothing stores. The bolt of lightning implies that her thoughtless body has been “charged” with a force that gives it life (interesting note: trauma-based mind control is often induced using electro-shock treatments).

[Dudeskey]

All-Seeing Eye Symbolism


You only need to look at a couple of Lady Gaga pictures or videos to notice that she is constantly hiding one of her eyes. Most people will simply interpret this as ”a cool thing to do” or a “fashion statement”. Those who have passed the 101 of Illuminati symbolism know that the All-Seeing Eye is probably its most recognizable symbol. The gesture of hiding one eye, usually the left one, goes way back in occult orders. Here’s an explanation of the origin of the Eye of Horus.

Horus, the sun of Osiris and Isis was called ‘Horus who rules with two eyes’. His right eye was white and represented the sun: his left eye was black and represented the moon. According to the myth, Horus lost his left eye to his evil brother, Seth, who he fought to avenge Seth’s murder of Osiris. Seth tore out of the eye but lost the fight. The eye was reassembled by magic, by Thoth, the god of writing, the moon and magic. Horus presented his eye to Osiris, who experienced rebirth in the underworld.
-Dictionary of the Occult

One thing is for sure: Lady is Gaga for the All-Seeing Eye.






This last picture is very significant. It confirms the fact that the closed eye is used in the context of esoteric symbolism. Her left eye is in her hand, referring to the Hand of Fatima (evil eye). Also, one can’t ignore the resemblance with good ol’ Baphomet.

All Seeing Eye on the backs of Gaga’s dancers during her Monster Tour.

Baphomet Reminiscent horns

[RonDaChamp24]

Wow crazy post dude...

[Hogan11]

That's wayyy too sophisticated a marketing strategy/campaign for Lady Gaga. She's all about moving mass units and that's it.

So, while interesting, I find the whole MK Ultra angle also highly unlikely.

[ghwk]

Not that I'm any fan of Marilyn Manson but the dude knew how to market an image with some catchy beats. Lady Gaga is the female Marilyn Manson in that regard.

[BroncoBuff]

I guess it's okay for me to admit I LOVE KE$HA!

[sirhcyennek81]

Oh good gravy...


Lady Gaga-OK.

MKUltra-WTF?

Ke$ha-...make her stop.

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by ghwk

Not that I'm any fan of Marilyn Manson but the dude knew how to market an image with some catchy beats. Lady Gaga is the female Marilyn Manson in that regard.

Now, THAT analogy works. Manson goes for "shock first, and then listen to my music". That's what Lady Gaga does. I guess she gets props for her marketing strategy, but that's as far as I go in giving Lady Gaga any credit...