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Old 04-30-2010, 06:35 AM   #401
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You seem like a reasonable man you must be very lonely here.
Well, you got me I guess, very very funny.

Why tf are you talking first person when you're not Foneco? You've been on the board a week, and this is the only thread you've posted in. Dortoh would've covered his tracks better than that. You sir, are but a shadow of the brilliance that is Dortoh.

Why did I open this thread?
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Some of you seriously think that is her? lol
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So... a couple of questions. What is a myrtle, and why name a beach after them?

And McFoneco, do you need any more advice?

And where's the pic of the gf?
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Okay, I think we need to give McFoneco some different advice. He obviously doesn't want to take sound advice about getting out of a situation that is bound to fail. So how can his situation actually work? Too many people get into a situation expecting to be the exception to the rule, but they have no idea how to be the exception, so they end up screwed like most other people in that similar situation.

McFoneco, you can't go into this as the sole supporter of this family. Some day in the future maybe you'll be able to support a family on your own, but right now you can't. You need her to get off her ass an contribute. If she doesn't get her act together you need to bounce.

She needs a plan, and you should demand that she has a plan. She needs to get her GED right now and before you guys move to SC, she needs to have a college already selected and she should be enrolled in that college. She should know the courses she's going to take, when school starts, what her plan is at that school. If you guys go out there without those plans already in place then she's probably not ever going to get around to doing it. You need to hold her hand through the process, because she obviously isn't going to do it herself. If she doesn't get it done then you are so screwed.

She can get financial aid that can help pay the bills. Financial aid can help out a lot. Your income plus that will get you guys by. And there are a lot of organizations that are willing to help moms who are going to college. Find out about those programs before you move out there.

I can't stress that enough. Have a plan before you go. And you need a plan for yourself too. Have a job already lined up, one that you can start the day you get out there. And have your own apartment before you get there. Don't rely on staying with one of her family members until you can find a place.

One last piece of advice. It's been said by a number of people here, do not get this woman pregnant!!!! If you two are going to work then she needs to meet certain goals. Getting knocked up will kill all of those goals. You think she'd go to college with one kid and a second on the way? That would just be another excuse for her to use. It seems like she's good at using excuses. And be careful because she might want to have that excuse. She might want to have a kid with you really soon just so you're stuck taking care of her and she doesn't have to do anything. Some women do that. So if she says she's on the pill you better still use a condom every time. If she tells you that she doesn't want you to use it then you know what she's trying to do. She's trying to get knocked up. That should tell you that you're screwed.

It looks like you're really trying to go the distance with her, so don't have any kids with her until she's graduated from college and has been in her career for a number of years. By then both of you should be able to afford to expand the family.

Bottom line, you're trying to be Captain Save a Ho. That's a tough job. The only way to save her is if she wants to be saved, and if she's willing to do the work, which is what I question. Based on what you've told us I don't think she's going to want to stick to any plan that requires her to do anything. So that's where you have to put your foot down, and you have to be ready to leave the relationship if she doesn't comply. Remember, you have no real attachment to her, so leaving is simply. And that's why we've told you not to get her pregnant. If you do then you will be tied to her and she could just sit back and do a whole lot of nothing. As long as there is a threat of you leaving, if she really wants to make it work then she'll stick to the plan. But if she's fighting the plan, then you know that she's just using you as a meal ticket. If you sense that then get out of there.

Hopefully this is advice that you will take, sense it is going along the lines of what you want.
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Okay, I think we need to give McFoneco some different advice. He obviously doesn't want to take sound advice about getting out of a situation that is bound to fail. So how can his situation actually work? Too many people get into a situation expecting to be the exception to the rule, but they have no idea how to be the exception, so they end up screwed like most other people in that similar situation.

McFoneco, you can't go into this as the sole supporter of this family. Some day in the future maybe you'll be able to support a family on your own, but right now you can't. You need her to get off her ass an contribute. If she doesn't get her act together you need to bounce.

She needs a plan, and you should demand that she has a plan. She needs to get her GED right now and before you guys move to SC, she needs to have a college already selected and she should be enrolled in that college. She should know the courses she's going to take, when school starts, what her plan is at that school. If you guys go out there without those plans already in place then she's probably not ever going to get around to doing it. You need to hold her hand through the process, because she obviously isn't going to do it herself. If she doesn't get it done then you are so screwed.

She can get financial aid that can help pay the bills. Financial aid can help out a lot. Your income plus that will get you guys by. And there are a lot of organizations that are willing to help moms who are going to college. Find out about those programs before you move out there.

I can't stress that enough. Have a plan before you go. And you need a plan for yourself too. Have a job already lined up, one that you can start the day you get out there. And have your own apartment before you get there. Don't rely on staying with one of her family members until you can find a place.

One last piece of advice. It's been said by a number of people here, do not get this woman pregnant!!!! If you two are going to work then she needs to meet certain goals. Getting knocked up will kill all of those goals. You think she'd go to college with one kid and a second on the way? That would just be another excuse for her to use. It seems like she's good at using excuses. And be careful because she might want to have that excuse. She might want to have a kid with you really soon just so you're stuck taking care of her and she doesn't have to do anything. Some women do that. So if she says she's on the pill you better still use a condom every time. If she tells you that she doesn't want you to use it then you know what she's trying to do. She's trying to get knocked up. That should tell you that you're screwed.

It looks like you're really trying to go the distance with her, so don't have any kids with her until she's graduated from college and has been in her career for a number of years. By then both of you should be able to afford to expand the family.

Bottom line, you're trying to be Captain Save a Ho. That's a tough job. The only way to save her is if she wants to be saved, and if she's willing to do the work, which is what I question. Based on what you've told us I don't think she's going to want to stick to any plan that requires her to do anything. So that's where you have to put your foot down, and you have to be ready to leave the relationship if she doesn't comply. Remember, you have no real attachment to her, so leaving is simply. And that's why we've told you not to get her pregnant. If you do then you will be tied to her and she could just sit back and do a whole lot of nothing. As long as there is a threat of you leaving, if she really wants to make it work then she'll stick to the plan. But if she's fighting the plan, then you know that she's just using you as a meal ticket. If you sense that then get out of there.

Hopefully this is advice that you will take, sense it is going along the lines of what you want.
I may be talking out of my @ss on this one, but I bet if he answered all of the questions you asked honestly, he wouldn't be with her. Personally, I'd never be with someone who had an excuse for everything. Personal responsibility, it's quite a concept.
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:47 PM   #410
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I may be talking out of my @ss on this one, but I bet if he answered all of the questions you asked honestly, he wouldn't be with her. Personally, I'd never be with someone who had an excuse for everything. Personal responsibility, it's quite a concept.
You're not talking out your ass with that one. Your point is spot on. I have the feeling that if he presented a plan like that to her and she went against it he'd stay with her. I know we've all be ragging on him, but hopefully he'll be strong enough to make this work. Time to man up and be a leaders. That's a problem with a lot of American men. Too many of us are being led around by women.
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You're not talking out your ass with that one. Your point is spot on. I have the feeling that if he presented a plan like that to her and she went against it he'd stay with her. I know we've all be ragging on him, but hopefully he'll be strong enough to make this work. Time to man up and be a leaders. That's a problem with a lot of American men. Too many of us are being led around by women.
Oh for fecks sake...that's the problem with American men? not that you don't take responsibility for your own ill conceived choices but that a woman made you do it? Seriously?
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Oh for fecks sake...that's the problem with American men? not that you don't take responsibility for your own ill conceived choices but that a woman made you do it? Seriously?
Hold up. I'm not blaming women for it. That's not what I'm saying at all (it's a trip, one woman that I was with had a habit of putting her own meaning to stuff that I was saying and would try to use it against me lol) .

The problem is with men. I'm all about being accountable for ones self. If a man is being led around by a woman and made a fool of then it's by his own doing. People can only do to you what you let them.

If you notice we're trying to help him with his choices and we're letting him know that the choices that he's making could screw him. It's not the woman's fault, it's his fault for the choices he's making.
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Hold up. I'm not blaming women for it. That's not what I'm saying at all (it's a trip, one woman that I was with had a habit of putting her own meaning to stuff that I was saying and would try to use it against me lol) .

The problem is with men. I'm all about being accountable for ones self. If a man is being led around by a woman and made a fool of then it's by his own doing. People can only do to you what you let them.

If you notice we're trying to help him with his choices and we're letting him know that the choices that he's making could screw him. It's not the woman's fault, it's his fault for the choices he's making.
Okay I am not putting meaning to what you say. But you keep saying if a man is led around by a woman it sort of implies his choices are dictated by her so I take exception to that implication.

I dated a guy who never wanted to make a decision which drove me crazy. I mean I like making decisions, but not all of them by myself. It's a relationship not a dictatorship.

Independence, as my name implies is important to me and it's not a gender thing. Men and women both need to be able to stand on their own, financially, emotionally, intellectually before they can ever be with someone else in a meaningful relationship. I never liked the whole you complete me crap from Jerry Maguire..if you aren't complete before you meet someone, you sure as heck won't be with them.

And for the most part I concur with the advice in here, though some of the more vitriolic remarks were damaging to the points they were trying to make.

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Okay I am not putting meaning to what you say. But you keep saying if a man is led around by a woman it sort of implies his choices are dictated by her so I take exception to that implication.

I dated a guy who never wanted to make a decision which drove me crazy. I mean I like making decisions, but not all of them by myself. It's a relationship not a dictatorship.

Independence, as my name implies is important to me and it's not a gender thing. Men and women both need to be able to stand on their own, financially, emotionally, intellectually before they can ever be with someone else in a meaningful relationship. I never liked the whole you complete me crap from Jerry Maguire..if you aren't complete before you meet someone, you sure as heck won't be with them.

And for the most part I concur with the advice in here, though some of the more vitriolic remarks were damaging to the points they were trying to make.

Well, I'd say that I am saying that his choices are dictated by the woman, but I guess we differ on where the blame goes. It appears that you think that I'm blaming the woman for that. But I'm really blaming the guy.

A lot of relationships are pretty much dictatorships. Either led by the man or by the woman. I really have a problem with both of those relationship models. I'm all about equality in a relationship. And the decisions shouldn't be based on what one person wants, but what is best for both people. Usually the person running the show makes decisions based on what that person wants. I don't see why a man or woman would let their partner run them around.

I speak from a guy's point of view, so I get really annoyed to see a man who is whipped, but I also have a problem with a woman who lets a man boss her around. It seems like some women hate being bossed around so much that they just become the boss, and some guys will let them run right over them. There doesn't have to be a boss in a relationship. Not in these days and times.
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And Miss I. I totally agree with you that both people should be able to stand on their own two feet. Both people should have some level of independence. In the situation that started this thread, that obviously isn't what is going on.
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McFoneco's chick shouldnt be making any of the important choices as we have seen her failure in all of them. It should be his way or the highway. Personally, I would hit the highway and leave her at the bus station.
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Well, I'd say that I am saying that his choices are dictated by the woman, but I guess we differ on where the blame goes. It appears that you think that I'm blaming the woman for that. But I'm really blaming the guy.

A lot of relationships are pretty much dictatorships. Either led by the man or by the woman. I really have a problem with both of those relationship models. I'm all about equality in a relationship. And the decisions shouldn't be based on what one person wants, but what is best for both people. Usually the person running the show makes decisions based on what that person wants. I don't see why a man or woman would let their partner run them around.

I speak from a guy's point of view, so I get really annoyed to see a man who is whipped, but I also have a problem with a woman who lets a man boss her around. It seems like some women hate being bossed around so much that they just become the boss, and some guys will let them run right over them. There doesn't have to be a boss in a relationship. Not in these days and times.
I think we agree actually on what a relationship should be, a relationship of equals, not of one over the other. Though of course each partner will compromise at some point because disagreements are inevitable, but in a partnership of equals it's a reasonable compromise, not one partner always dictating. But the way it seems to me is people should play to their strengths in a relationship and that's how you can help determine how the relationship plays out.

Unfortunately I see a lot of couples who bring out the worst and or weakest traits in each other. My brother and his spouse are like that. I think she might actually be evil, but my brother is an idiot who lets her treat him badly, his family badly and spew idiotic and often racist comments.
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INSTALLING A HUSBAND



Dear Tech Support ,

Last year I upgraded from Boyfriend 5.0 to Husband 1.0 and noticed a distinct slow down in overall system performance, particularly in the flower and jewelery applications, which operated flawlessly under Boyfriend 5.0 .

In addition, Husband 1.0 uninstalled many other valuable programs, such as
Romance 9.5 and Personal Attention 6.5, and then installed undesirable programs such as

NBA 5.0 ,
NFL 3.0 and
Golf Clubs 4.1 .

Conversation 8.0 no longer runs, and Housecleaning 2.6 simply crashes the system.

Please note that I have tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these problems, but to no avail.

What can I do?

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DEAR DESPERATE ,

First, keep in mind,
Boyfriend 5.0 is an Entertainment Package, while
Husband 1.0 is an operating system.

Please enter command: ithoughtyoulovedme.html, try to download Tears 6.2, and do not forget to install the Guilt 3.0 update.
If those applications work as designed, Husband 1.0 should then automatically run the applications Jewelery 2.0 and Flowers 3.5.

However, remember, overuse of the above application can cause Husband 1.0 to default to



Grumpy Silence 2.5 , Happy Hour 7.0, or

Beer 6.1 .

Please note that Beer 6.1 is a very bad program that will download the Farting and Snoring Loudly Beta.

Whatever you do, DO NOT under any circumstances install Mother-In-Law 1.0 (it runs a virus in the background that will eventually seize control of all your system resources .)

In addition, please do not attempt to reinstall the Boyfriend 5.0 program. This is an unsupported application and will crash Husband 1.0 .

In summary, Husband 1.0 is a great program, but it does have limited memory and cannot learn new applications quickly.. You might consider buying additional software to improve memory and performance. We recommend you try Cooking 3.0 and Hot Lingerie 7.7.
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