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Old 04-14-2010, 03:19 PM   #1
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I can't believe how many people on here think this would be a wise pick @ #11.

I get it, the guy is fast. He's a playmaker. But what team uses 2 consecutive 1st round picks (top 15 picks I might add) on RB's? OK, I can see a team using 1 pick that high, if it's your featured back. And we did that with Moreno last year. Do you really think it's smart drafting to take another RB the following year in the 1st round? Spiller would be our 3rd down specialist, and yeah, he could retrun kicks. But I don't think it's wise to pay that position #11 money. No way. Not when you still have a good few years left on Buckhalter, which has shown he still has some legs under him. Sorry but I don't think McD is going down that road.

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Old 04-14-2010, 03:21 PM   #3
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says the man with the hillis avatar!!!
I told myself just as I finished writing that post, Tsiguy96 will be the first to reply. You didn't dissapoint, lol.
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We kicked ass with the "Wild Horses" last year. This year, Orton's playing wideout permanently baby!
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I like Spiller as a player a lot
But I dont know if I can justify drafting a RB back to back years with high picks

it would be the definition of a luxury pick
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We kicked ass with the "Wild Horses" last year. This year, Orton's playing wideout permanently baby!
Who needs marshall! We have Orton at split end!
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Who needs marshall! We have Orton at split end!
I don't think teams mind that. It's not like they would have to actually tackle him if he caught a pass. All they need to do is get close to him and he would just fall down.
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I like Spiller as a player a lot
But I dont know if I can justify drafting a RB back to back years with high picks

it would be the definition of a luxury pick
kinda, but at the same time if you look at the effect chris johnson had (and i know spiller is not a CJ) anytime in teh NFL can use that production.
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If Spiller was just a running back I'd agree with you Zona but he is a great receiver out of the backfield and a stellar return man To steal a phrase from TJ "He's a three tool player"

Spiller could account for 30 to 40 of Marshall's receptions

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kinda, but at the same time if you look at the effect chris johnson had (and i know spiller is not a CJ) anytime in teh NFL can use that production.
Yeah, but Johnson is their featured back, no mistake about it. Spiller would not be the featured back here. And the Titans are not paying White a top 10 contract like we are paying Moreno.
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The team lacks playmakers now and Spiller was historically proficient in college football. It seems crazy to go RB two years in a row, but if you told me two years ago we would have no Cutler or Marshall, I would have LMAO.

I am thinking our only real alternative at 11 was McClain, but we are moving Haggan inside so that Ayers can play the outside. We just gave Haggan lots of cash and the team seems pretty high on Ayers. Plus there is the whole intestinal issue that McClain may or may not have.

It's too early, and too much of a money commitment to spend on an interior lineman, like Pouncey or Iupati.

We aren't going for Dez Bryant. That is just replacing Marshall with a potential Marshall. I think we will get a good WR with #43 or #45.

So Spiller. Unless someone falls.

We just spent a load of money revamping the DL with the FA pickups. If we go Dan Williams at 11, he will be behind a couple of players. He won't start for the Broncos for a long time. McD might be lynched before that day comes.
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Did you watch Moreno try to run behind our line last year? it was pathetic. We need some big ass interior linemen. That should be our first priority.
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If Spiller was just a running back I'd agree with you Zona but he is a great receiver out of the backfield and a stellar return man To steal a phrase from TJ "He's a three tool player"

Spiller could account for 30 to 40 of Marshall's receptions
Oh I know he can catch. But unless you're going to line him up as a wideout, your taking Moreno off the field if you want him to line up in the backfield. Josh like his 2 TE sets and I don't see Moreno coming off the field all that much. Wasn't one of the bigger reasons Josh got Moreno was that he was a guy who was tough enough to handle the pounding on 1st and 2nd down but versitile enough to stay on in 3rd downs.

And maybe even a better point yet. You put Spiller in the backfield on 3rd down, teams know he is not staying in to block. So, you are really tipping your hand when he's back there on 3rd down.

Bottom line, I just can't see him being on the field enough to justify that pick.
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I'd rather have an interior lineman... but look at what a guy like Hester or Cribbs does for their team. I wouldn't be upset in the least if we took Spiller with the 11th... so long as we address the lines frequently afterwards.
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We just spent a load of money revamping the DL with the FA pickups. If we go Dan Williams at 11, he will be behind a couple of players. He won't start for the Broncos for a long time. McD might be lynched before that day comes.
yep, which is why i think mcdaniels takes a guy who starts and makes this team better from day one. with our first 3 picks we will take a WR and C. if we go mcclain, benn, tennant, thats not a bad draft.
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I can't believe how many people on here think this would be a wise pick @ #11.

I get it, the guy is fast. He's a playmaker. But what team uses 2 consecutive 1st round picks (top 15 picks I might add) on RB's? OK, I can see a team using 1 pick that high, if it's your featured back. And we did that with Moreno last year. Do you really think it's smart drafting to take another RB the following year in the 1st round? Spiller would be our 3rd down specialist, and yeah, he could retrun kicks. But I don't think it's wise to pay that position #11 money. No way. Not when you still have a good few years left on Buckhalter, which has shown he still has some legs under him. Sorry but I don't think McD is going down that road.

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you make good points...

but i could care less if we pick RB 2 yrs in a row...i firmly believe in going bpa at that point in the draft...

and if spiller is available at 11...he's the bpa IMO...
yes we need bigger interior lineman, but we draft for need in later rounds IMO...

most teams use two backs nowadays and CJ Spiller gives a chance to score everytime he touches the ball...we can't say that about anybody else on our offense...we need some explosion and it doesnt get more explosive than Spiller...

besides...just because spiller is on the field doesn't mean moreno comes out...you can line up spiller at receiver at times or have a dual backfield...
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If Spiller was just a running back I'd agree with you Zona but he is a great receiver out of the backfield and a stellar return man To steal a phrase from TJ "He's a three tool player"

Spiller could account for 30 to 40 of Marshall's receptions
You mean he's the next Reggie Bush?

Linebackers or Guards. PLEASE.
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You mean he's the next Reggie Bush?

Linebackers or Guards. PLEASE.
Not to worry we'll get them just not at 11.
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I'd rather have an interior lineman... but look at what a guy like Hester or Cribbs does for their team. I wouldn't be upset in the least if we took Spiller with the 11th... so long as we address the lines frequently afterwards.
Agree.

Doesn't really matter so much where we take these guys, as long as we get what we need in the big picture.

That said, we do need at least 2 premiere linemen from this draft. We have an extra pick, now... so we have to make this happen.
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All signs point to Spiller being the pick. First we draft off a short board and we met with Spiller. Second, Moreno is not a workhorse. He comes up lame at least once a game. Third, Spiller is an elite returner which will allow Eddie to focus on playing WR in McDs system, something he struggled with last year. Fourth, every good team has RBBC these days. Fifth, Spiller would be great split out in any one of McDs spread sets. Sixth, we could have gotten Ginn today to replace Marshall, but we didn't. I know he sucks, but he could have been a cheap throw in.
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I also think Josh has shown his tendencies on draft day. There is a very good chance he will trade back into the first round if he sees a player he covets that has fallen to a high value level for us. He has a short draft list (I like that) and we will maneuver to get as many of those guys he can. There will be some very pissed off people around here after the draft. They are going to have the same complaints this year as they has last year, the "we could've had them later' whine.
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I can't help but wonder if the Cryptkeeper in Oakland has his eye on Spiller. He's got crazy speed, and would be a luxury pick while they have epic needs at other positions. It looks like like a tailor made Raiders pick.
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Best move is to trade that 11 pick and move back --

We need more second round picks to fill the holes.

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