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Old 04-14-2010, 05:03 AM   #1
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This tells me that this draft will be heavy offensive. With Brando now gone, this team needs new playmakers and RB Spiller and WR Thomas or Benn in the first two rounds will help me get out of my depression.
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Old 04-14-2010, 05:11 AM   #3
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We really need to hit pay dirt on our draft picks this year.
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This tells me that this draft will be heavy offensive. With Brando now gone, this team needs new playmakers and RB Spiller and WR Thomas or Benn in the first two rounds will help me get out of my depression.
Dez Bryant isn't as bad as people want to make him out to be. I wouldn't be upset if he were the pick... not by a long shot. His upside and potential are huge. Most consider him a better prospect than Crabtree. I was very impressed by Crabtree last year. There are some strong vets in our locker room and I think that IF Dez Bryant were ever slacking they would reign him in in a hurry. I honestly don't think that would happen though. I think this kid is going to have a Moss/Harvin/Peterson like impact in the league. He'll be great from the start and a lot of teams will be sorry they passed on him.

But, if we do decide to pass on him, then Benn and Gillyard are both intriguing prospects in the 2nd round. Very different players, but both offer a lot.

I'm also not ruling out a speed threat in one of our first 3 selections. Spiller at 11 would be nice and address both KR and RB, plus he can be used as a slot guy and moved around to draw coverages (Reggie Bush). Best or McCluster in the 2nd round make sense as well.

How sweet would it be to end up with Spiller at 11, Saffold/Ducasse at 43, and Cody/Houston at 45.
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I wouldn't mind that at all, I was nervous about this offense with Brandon, now that he's gone, I'm about to have a stroke. We need to pick the right players next week, the defense is set for 2010, now this offense needs immediate attention.
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I'm actually not overly concerned about replacing Marshall's production. 101 catches for 1120yards and 10 TDs.

Let's say that Eddie merely returns to his rookie form and goes for 91 catches and 980 yards and 5 TDs. That replaces over half of BMs production above what Eddie did last year. Not far fetched to me, and I can see him producing even better numbers than he did as a rookie if he's featured in the Welker role.

I can see Gaffney catching an extra 15-20 balls for an extra 200-300 yards, and 3 more TDs. Between those 2 things we've replaced over 80% of BMs production.

Add in Arrelious Benn who catches 35 balls for 450 yards and 3 TDs, and the passing game hasn't fallen off at all.

You've removed the pressure on Orton to feed the beast, and you've taken away another "me first" guy. All that adds up to better football team, in my eyes.
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Ship Scheffler to Ethiopia for his off-season workouts. When he returns 30 lbs lighter, problem = solved.
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I'm actually not overly concerned about replacing Marshall's production. 101 catches for 1120yards and 10 TDs.

Let's say that Eddie merely returns to his rookie form and goes for 91 catches and 980 yards and 5 TDs. That replaces over half of BMs production above what Eddie did last year. Not far fetched to me, and I can see him producing even better numbers than he did as a rookie if he's featured in the Welker role.

I can see Gaffney catching an extra 15-20 balls for an extra 200-300 yards, and 3 more TDs. Between those 2 things we've replaced over 80% of BMs production.

Add in Arrelious Benn who catches 35 balls for 450 yards and 3 TDs, and the passing game hasn't fallen off at all.

You've removed the pressure on Orton to feed the beast, and you've taken away another "me first" guy. All that adds up to better football team, in my eyes.
I agree, well said
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I'm actually not overly concerned about replacing Marshall's production. 101 catches for 1120yards and 10 TDs.

Let's say that Eddie merely returns to his rookie form and goes for 91 catches and 980 yards and 5 TDs. That replaces over half of BMs production above what Eddie did last year. Not far fetched to me, and I can see him producing even better numbers than he did as a rookie if he's featured in the Welker role.

I can see Gaffney catching an extra 15-20 balls for an extra 200-300 yards, and 3 more TDs. Between those 2 things we've replaced over 80% of BMs production.

Add in Arrelious Benn who catches 35 balls for 450 yards and 3 TDs, and the passing game hasn't fallen off at all.

You've removed the pressure on Orton to feed the beast, and you've taken away another "me first" guy. All that adds up to better football team, in my eyes.
That was in about 14 games though.
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That was in about 14 games though.
Marshall's played less than the full 16 in the majority of his year's in the league. I was going to base it on Marshall's production in 8 games, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Richard Quinn will lead the Broncos to the promised land...

Or 1-15...
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The upside of this move is that it'll allow us to stop structuring the offense around Marshall in the Y WR role and instead make ideal use of our talent overall.

I'm expecting Royal to get the Z WR role (Welker in NE), Gaffney to play the Y WR role (what he did in NE and what Marshall did here) and we'll go find ourselves a deep threat for the X WR (Moss in NE, Royal last year) role.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Golden Tate at 43 or 45 actually.
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:57 AM   #14
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The upside of this move is that it'll allow us to stop structuring the offense around Marshall in the Y WR role and instead make ideal use of our talent overall.

I'm expecting Royal to get the Z WR role (Welker in NE), Gaffney to play the Y WR role (what he did in NE and what Marshall did here) and we'll go find ourselves a deep threat for the X WR (Moss in NE, Royal last year) role.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Golden Tate at 43 or 45 actually.
I have been trying to ask people this in the earlier thread (Marshall signs his tender thread) and no one would really give me an answer. Would Golden Tate be able to fill that deep threat role? Dez Bryant would, but what are the other realistic options? I havent been following the college class this year, Benn wouldn't really fit that role, what about Gilyard or anyone else?
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I have been trying to ask people this in the earlier thread (Marshall signs his tender thread) and no one would really give me an answer. Would Golden Tate be able to fill that deep threat role? Dez Bryant would, but what are the other realistic options? I havent been following the college class this year, Benn wouldn't really fit that role, what about Gilyard or anyone else?
I'd love Tate or Gilyard. Todd McShay has us taking McClain at 11, Golden Tate at 43. I think we go Dez at 11 unless some trades up to get him from us. If dez isn't there Denver goes w mcclain or pouncey and either Tate or gilyard in the 43rd or 45th.
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Or 1-15...
I didn't know 3rd string TE's had the ability to influence a team to a 1 - 15 record. Wow!
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Moreno, Buckhalter and draft Spiller.

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I think one of two things are gonna happen with our first pick...1. We draft Dez Bryant with our first pick or 2. We trade back with someone and take a Guard or Center
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I think they need to get the best Offensive threat in the draft. It's Spiller not Bryant. Dez wouldn't have a clue for most of the first season.
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I have been trying to ask people this in the earlier thread (Marshall signs his tender thread) and no one would really give me an answer. Would Golden Tate be able to fill that deep threat role? Dez Bryant would, but what are the other realistic options? I havent been following the college class this year, Benn wouldn't really fit that role, what about Gilyard or anyone else?
Bryant and Benn would best fit in the same role that Marshall had (the Y WR role). Gaffney isn't a bad short term option for that right now, but obviously a longer term answer wouldn't hurt.

Tate and Gilyard would be the kind of field stretcher we'd want to take Royal's place as the X. Gilyard would be ok, but I think he'd fit better in the slot role that Royal should be playing. Tate on the other hand seems like an ideal fit as the X WR to me. Great straight line speed, good in jump ball situations, experience in a similar offense, etc.. He could step in and contribute quickly.
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Drek, I don't think Tate lasts till #43 or #45. Seems like a quality selection at the end of round one. Mardy Gilyard would be available where we are selecting, and I think he'd fit the deep threat role very well for us, as well as being a guy who can be creative with YAC.
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The upside of this move is that it'll allow us to stop structuring the offense around Marshall in the Y WR role and instead make ideal use of our talent overall.

I'm expecting Royal to get the Z WR role (Welker in NE), Gaffney to play the Y WR role (what he did in NE and what Marshall did here) and we'll go find ourselves a deep threat for the X WR (Moss in NE, Royal last year) role.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Golden Tate at 43 or 45 actually.
Are you aware that you have this completely wrong?

The X receiver is the split end, who plays up ON the LOS, and what Marshall has traditionally played upwards of 90% of the snaps.

The Y receiver is the ****ing tight end. Or in NE's Welker comparison, it's referred to as Y-open (splitting the TE into the slot, or a slot receiver).

The Z receiver is the flanker, who plays off the LOS.

Please... just stop...
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Sorry you don't have anyone to throw to, at least you are not in a contract year - SIKE!


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