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View Poll Results: If it comes to a 2nd or nothing, what should we do?
Take the 2nd rounder and be done with this whole situation. 7 8.24%
Play hardball. We hold the cards. He can sit without pay if he chooses not to sign the tender. 78 91.76%
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:44 AM   #1
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Default Brandon Marshall poll - if it comes down to it...

Now that we've clearly established that Shanahan is copying McDaniels plan, the next order of business is to figure out the Marshall situation.

It appears plausible that we may not get better than a 2nd round offer for him.

Knowing what we know about Marshall, if the situations arisis... what do we do? Let's say draft day has come, and a 2nd is the best offer we've received... do we take it?

A 2nd isn't much, but it's compensation and we have a lot of needs. Some of the best O-linemen in the draft will be available in the 2nd. Beyond that, it will allow us to move into the future and put this situation behind us.

Conversely, a 2nd is certainly less than we all expected. We have the ability to force Marshall to sit out the season without pay. It's very apparent that given his situation and the labor problems, we won't write him a long-term contract this season. We hold the cards, and we can play hardball if we choose. He can only cause so much distraction when he's not under contract and inactive.

So, what do you think? If it came down to it.... what would you prefer?
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:48 AM   #2
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I would not trade Brandon Marshall for a 2nd
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I would not trade Brandon Marshall for a 2nd
I agree. If no one coughs up a first rounder we should sign him to a long term deal, with as many protectors written in as possible, and hope he doesn't implode.

I would do a 2nd rounder and a starting caliber player.
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we keep him and make him play, worse case scenario, hes gone next year and we get a 3rd round compensation pick.
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:06 PM   #5
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If no one offers a 1st, hopefully it gets through his scull that he simply isn't that valuable, sign an incentive laden 2-3 year contract and just ride it out. If he leaves after that the Broncos got the prime years out of a beast of a WR.
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:07 PM   #6
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I would be unhappy if we took a 2nd rounder straight up for Marshall. I would not necessarily be adverse to accepting less than a 1st, but any such deal would have to include a quality (established) starter at a position of need (i.e. inside linebacker, center, or left guard).
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The one pick in the second I would take is the Rams at #33. Having the option of overnight re-setting the draft board and taking calls for trades is a strong position - especially in this draft where real good players will be selected in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Otherwise, I'd still like him to stay and play in Denver.
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If the coaching staff thinks that marshall is likely to mature and become a team guy than keep him and play him in 2010 all the while try to get him signed to a contract that works for both sides

If the coaching staff thinks Marshall will not turn it around than yes get what you can and move on.
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Agree with SpringStein.
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The one pick in the second I would take is the Rams at #33. Having the option of overnight re-setting the draft board and taking calls for trades is a strong position - especially in this draft where real good players will be selected in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Otherwise, I'd still like him to stay and play in Denver.
I agree 100% maybe even 1000%
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The one pick in the second I would take is the Rams at #33. .
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The one pick in the second I would take is the Rams at #33. Having the option of overnight re-setting the draft board and taking calls for trades is a strong position - especially in this draft where real good players will be selected in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Otherwise, I'd still like him to stay and play in Denver.
If the Rams offered #33 then they'd have to throw in their 3rd round pick too. That would be the equivolent of the #20 pick of the first round and I could live with that.
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I STILL think David Hawthorne and a late pick for Marshall would be sublime. As far as a 2nd straight up? I'm as sick of Marshall as anyone, but no, that's not enough.
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I would not trade Brandon Marshall for a 2nd

With career stats like this....

Career REC 327 YDS 4019 TD 25

A first rounder @ the very least.
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I'm fine with a 2nd if there is not a decent long term deal in place. You might get a solid year from Marshall if he's not traded, then again, he could get suspended/injured and miss a majority of the season. There's no guarantee that Denver gets a 3rd Compensatory pick for him, it depends on a host of factors.

If it's possible to sign him to a decent deal that won't kill the franchise in the event Brandon proceeds to be Brandon, then sign him. Unfortunately, it appears that the rest of the league agrees that his talent is not worth his inherent risk.

The draft appears to be pretty deep. Some have 50 players with a 1st round grade. Making a trade and hoping that a player pans out isn't any riskier than signing him to what he wants. He's had issues before getting a the security of a guaranteed contract, what makes anyone confident that once he gets paid he'll be a model citizen?
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With career stats like this....

Career REC 327 YDS 4019 TD 25

A first rounder @ the very least.
What if a player had this stat line in his first four years, what would he be worth?

308 receptions, 4123 yards, 37 TDs
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I'm fine with a 2nd if there is not a decent long term deal in place. You might get a solid year from Marshall if he's not traded, then again, he could get suspended/injured and miss a majority of the season. There's no guarantee that Denver gets a 3rd Compensatory pick for him, it depends on a host of factors.

If it's possible to sign him to a decent deal that won't kill the franchise in the event Brandon proceeds to be Brandon, then sign him. Unfortunately, it appears that the rest of the league agrees that his talent is not worth his inherent risk.

The draft appears to be pretty deep. Some have 50 players with a 1st round grade. Making a trade and hoping that a player pans out isn't any riskier than signing him to what he wants. He's had issues before getting a the security of a guaranteed contract, what makes anyone confident that once he gets paid he'll be a model citizen?
no chance they DONT get a 3rd for marshall for compensatory.
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no way in hell would I trade him for a second just another stupid thread about B Marsh
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no chance they DONT get a 3rd for marshall for compensatory.
So if Marshall has an off year or Denver signs a high end FA who plays stellar, the league will say, ah we'll just give you a 3rd rounder for having put up with him all those years?

Compensatory picks are based on a formula on FA lost and signed, the amount they sign for and the level at which they play.

As I said, There is no guarantee that Denver gets a 3rd for him. They may end up with one, but it's not guaranteed.
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I hope this isn't a serious poll. Marshall better be worth more than a 2nd. Otherwise sign him and deal with it.
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So if Marshall has an off year or Denver signs a high end FA who plays stellar, the league will say, ah we'll just give you a 3rd rounder for having put up with him all those years?

Compensatory picks are based on a formula on FA lost and signed, the amount they sign for and the level at which they play.

As I said, There is no guarantee that Denver gets a 3rd for him. They may end up with one, but it's not guaranteed.
we would not sign a fA anywhere near as good as marshall. if you lose a top tier FA, you get compensatory picks. i would take a bet that we would get a 3rd because anyone we sign will not properly fill the shoes that marshall left.
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we would not sign a fA anywhere near as good as marshall. if you lose a top tier FA, you get compensatory picks. i would take a bet that we would get a 3rd because anyone we sign will not properly fill the shoes that marshall left.
And if we did, who cares what happens with Marshall?
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What if a player had this stat line in his first four years, what would he be worth?

308 receptions, 4123 yards, 37 TDs
If it were solely about stats, we'd be getting a top 10 pick thrown our way.

Of course, there are other factors complicating this whole thing.
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What if a player had this stat line in his first four years, what would he be worth?

308 receptions, 4123 yards, 37 TDs
Is this a hypothetical question?
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