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Old 04-11-2010, 10:43 AM   #1
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Broncos, Patriots draft off a short board

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 11, 2010 10:31 AM ET
"The best way to avoid drafting players you don't really want is to take them off your draft board.

That's the theory, anyhow, used by Bill Belichick in New England and some of his proteges around the NFL. Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post has an interesting piece Sunday about how Josh McDaniels uses a "short board" when drafting, like his old boss.

Most teams list all potential draft picks on their board. That can top 300 players. The Broncos had under 100 players last year, the only ones that fit what Denver wants to do.

"We want the players on our board that we want on our team -- that's the goal," McDaniels said. "It's the process we go through to make the best decisions, both short- and long-term for our team."

Belichick has reportedly had as few as 25 players on his board one year, which is remarkable.

The approach makes sense, but McDaniels still must show he can pick the right players for such a short draft board."



just saw this on PFT, take it for what its worth.
for for those who were complaining about Josh only have X amount of names on his board, it looks like he may not be the only one
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:49 AM   #2
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Short board? Is that like the short bus?

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Old 04-11-2010, 11:01 AM   #3
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Short board? Is that like the short bus?

If it is I hope it is like this
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And if you notice other fans from other teams are citing how their coaches too also have the same approach. It isn't that they only scout "100 players" -- it is that they draw their list down that amount when they figure who they think is suitable to play for the team. Makes a ton of sense, regardless of what people here like to stay to bash Josh.
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My only problem with this method is that it's hard to put proper value on guys in relation to where they most likely fall on other people's boards if you don't have them on your board at all. Just seems like it can lead to making some real reaches.
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My only problem with this method is that it's hard to put proper value on guys in relation to where they most likely fall on other people's boards if you don't have them on your board at all. Just seems like it can lead to making some real reaches.
Reach in who's eyes though Some dick like Kiper

I dont give a **** where we draft a guy as long as he pans out and contributes.
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Look, as ****ty as we've been at drafting in the last decade, maybe a new approach is something we should embrace.
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kffl is reporting that the Washington Redskins have as few as 100 players on their draft board now is this because they don't have that many picks or because Shanny is once again following Josh's example.
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It's fine, I guess, IF you have the right short list of players. How many years do pro bowl players emerge from the later rounds. It just seems to me that you have to cast a wide net to catch the fish. Why bother having a large scouting staff? Target your draft needs and employ a few friends & family to go watch the best at those positions. Works for the coaching positions apparently.

Limiting your choices by design just seems dumb
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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 11, 2010 10:31 AM ET
"The best way to avoid drafting players you don't really want is to take them off your draft board.

That's the theory, anyhow, used by Bill Belichick in New England and some of his proteges around the NFL. Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post has an interesting piece Sunday about how Josh McDaniels uses a "short board" when drafting, like his old boss.

Most teams list all potential draft picks on their board. That can top 300 players. The Broncos had under 100 players last year, the only ones that fit what Denver wants to do.

"We want the players on our board that we want on our team -- that's the goal," McDaniels said. "It's the process we go through to make the best decisions, both short- and long-term for our team."

Belichick has reportedly had as few as 25 players on his board one year, which is remarkable.

The approach makes sense, but McDaniels still must show he can pick the right players for such a short draft board."



just saw this on PFT, take it for what its worth.
for for those who were complaining about Josh only have X amount of names on his board, it looks like he may not be the only one
Is there really any other way to draft? If you got 300 guys on your draft board you are the type of organization that has no direction. It basically means you don't know who you want.

Narrowing down you draft board just makes sense.
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Remember when Mike Ditka had only had one name on his draft list.
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Remember when Mike Ditka had only had one name on his draft list.
Didn't Buddy Ryan do the same thing, trading away all the later rounds so he could move up for somebody, can't remember who.
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Is there really any other way to draft? If you got 300 guys on your draft board you are the type of organization that has no direction. It basically means you don't know who you want.

Narrowing down you draft board just makes sense.
Exactly.

When we go to the liquor store, do we have everything on our shopping lists?

Ok, wrong analogy.
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Didn't Buddy Ryan do the same thing, trading away all the later rounds so he could move up for somebody, can't remember who.
I only remember Ditka doing it for Ricky Williams
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It fine to have very short draft board, when you are coming off a Superbowl and have great depth on your team. When that happens you can very very selective on who you want to add to the team. But it stupid to have a short board when you are coming off an 8-8 season, don't have a lot of depth, and older roster.
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Billichick has over twice the # of high picks this year.
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I don't consider 100 players to be very short. There is no problem with this method. They scout more than 100 players. They narrow it to that amount. What is the big ****ing deal toots?
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Based on last year's draft "haul", I would like to see a bigger board in Denver.

I could care less what they do in New England.
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It fine to have very short draft board, when you are coming off a Superbowl and have great depth on your team. When that happens you can very very selective on who you want to add to the team. But it stupid to have a short board when you are coming off an 8-8 season, don't have a lot of depth, and older roster.
damn bro, you sure know a lot about running a successful pro football team, which organization do you work for again?
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Billichick has over twice the # of high picks this year.
The 06 draft class have all died from aids.

Just saving you the trouble you wank.
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Dagmar, nice. Post some GIF's.
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Dagmar, nice. Post some GIF's.
I'm hungover. The internet is the best place to take out my rage... Plus my golf bet just went down the tubes.

Oh, and I will post some gifs, don't think I wont!
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I only remember Ditka doing it for Ricky Williams
Addition note . The year that happened , The Saint offered the Bengals that deal of all their picks that year + a 1st and a 3rd the next year and the Bengals TURNED IT DOWN cause they had to have Akili Smith and was convinced Akili was their man OOOL


Following Week Wash took the deal.
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damn bro, you sure know a lot about running a successful pro football team, which organization do you work for again?
Go ahead be snide, it easier to be that way when you don't want to get in a adult like discussion. Gathering and identifying resources isn't different in modern business world, wither in making widgets or running a football team. When you are second tier company in any market you attempting to get right folks in place to make your company the market leader.

The current Denver team is not like the NE Patriots teams of the last decade, we don't have the talent or depth they had. So we can not copy what they did, because conditions are different. IF Denver reach that status like the PATS did, then we can very selecting in our scouting and spending of resources. Until that time, Denver needs to not loose any flexibility on getting right folks in there.
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