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2012 AFC West Champs
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Broncos, Patriots draft off a short board
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 11, 2010 10:31 AM ET "The best way to avoid drafting players you don't really want is to take them off your draft board. That's the theory, anyhow, used by Bill Belichick in New England and some of his proteges around the NFL. Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post has an interesting piece Sunday about how Josh McDaniels uses a "short board" when drafting, like his old boss. Most teams list all potential draft picks on their board. That can top 300 players. The Broncos had under 100 players last year, the only ones that fit what Denver wants to do. "We want the players on our board that we want on our team -- that's the goal," McDaniels said. "It's the process we go through to make the best decisions, both short- and long-term for our team." Belichick has reportedly had as few as 25 players on his board one year, which is remarkable. The approach makes sense, but McDaniels still must show he can pick the right players for such a short draft board." just saw this on PFT, take it for what its worth. for for those who were complaining about Josh only have X amount of names on his board, it looks like he may not be the only one |
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Owner. Philanthropist.
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Short board? Is that like the short bus?
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If it is I hope it is like this
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And if you notice other fans from other teams are citing how their coaches too also have the same approach. It isn't that they only scout "100 players" -- it is that they draw their list down that amount when they figure who they think is suitable to play for the team. Makes a ton of sense, regardless of what people here like to stay to bash Josh.
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My only problem with this method is that it's hard to put proper value on guys in relation to where they most likely fall on other people's boards if you don't have them on your board at all. Just seems like it can lead to making some real reaches.
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Some dick like Kiper![]() I dont give a **** where we draft a guy as long as he pans out and contributes. |
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TEAM FIRST.
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Look, as ****ty as we've been at drafting in the last decade, maybe a new approach is something we should embrace.
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It is what it Is.
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kffl is reporting that the Washington Redskins have as few as 100 players on their draft board now is this because they don't have that many picks or because Shanny is once again following Josh's example.
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Perennial Pro-bowler
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It's fine, I guess, IF you have the right short list of players. How many years do pro bowl players emerge from the later rounds. It just seems to me that you have to cast a wide net to catch the fish. Why bother having a large scouting staff? Target your draft needs and employ a few friends & family to go watch the best at those positions. Works for the coaching positions apparently.
Limiting your choices by design just seems dumb |
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Narrowing down you draft board just makes sense. |
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It is what it Is.
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Remember when Mike Ditka had only had one name on his draft list.
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Perennial Pro-bowler
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Just hanging out.
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When we go to the liquor store, do we have everything on our shopping lists? Ok, wrong analogy. ![]() |
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It is what it Is.
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Lost In Space
Join Date: Apr 2004
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It fine to have very short draft board, when you are coming off a Superbowl and have great depth on your team. When that happens you can very very selective on who you want to add to the team. But it stupid to have a short board when you are coming off an 8-8 season, don't have a lot of depth, and older roster.
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"Hoodie Jr"
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Billichick has over twice the # of high picks this year.
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I don't consider 100 players to be very short. There is no problem with this method. They scout more than 100 players. They narrow it to that amount. What is the big ****ing deal toots?
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Call me, "Maybe"
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Based on last year's draft "haul", I would like to see a bigger board in Denver.
I could care less what they do in New England. |
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Dagmar, nice. Post some GIF's.
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...there ain't no devil
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Addition note . The year that happened , The Saint offered the Bengals that deal of all their picks that year + a 1st and a 3rd the next year and the Bengals TURNED IT DOWN cause they had to have Akili Smith and was convinced Akili was their man
O O OL Following Week Wash took the deal. |
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Lost In Space
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The current Denver team is not like the NE Patriots teams of the last decade, we don't have the talent or depth they had. So we can not copy what they did, because conditions are different. IF Denver reach that status like the PATS did, then we can very selecting in our scouting and spending of resources. Until that time, Denver needs to not loose any flexibility on getting right folks in there. |
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