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Old 04-05-2010, 12:03 AM   #1
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Here is my first mock of the year. Feel free to comment.

1. Rams Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
Should Be: Sam Bradford QB

2. Lions N. Suh DT Nebraska
Should be: Russel Okung OT
Comment: Lions fall in love with hype of Suh and pass on OT to protect Stafford

3. Bucs G.McCoy Oklahoma
Should be: Mccoy or Suh

4. Redskins Russel Okung OT Ok. State
Should be: Okung if he is here or trade back for whoever wants Claussen more the Bills or Browns
Comment: If Okung goes to Washington I can't fathom away where they aren't at least a .500 ball club with a healthy McNabb

5. Chiefs Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
Should be: Eric Berry
Comment: If only they didn't give a pile of cash to Cassel they could take Claussen here

6. Seahawks Jimmy Claussen QB Notre Dame
Should be: Jimmy Claussen
Comment: Oh how I would love for them to sign B.Marshall now

7. Browns Eric Berry S Tenn.
Should be: Eric Berry

8. Raiders Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
Should be: I would take Dez Bryant here if I were Al but two first round receivers in a row smells like Det. Lions strategy.
Comment: Should have given up more to get McNabb but will have a good chance of picking high enough to get a QB again in 2011

9. Bills Dan Williams DT Tenn.
Should be: Dez, Haden, or Williams
Comment: The Bills baffle me with what they are going to do if they don't trade with the Skins to get Claussen.

10. Jags Joe Haden DB Florida
Should be: Joe Haden
Comment: Need all the DB's you can get to stop Peyton

11. Broncos Rolando Mcclain ILB Alabama
Should be: Mcclain or Witherspoon

12. Phins Dez Bryant WR Ok. State
Should be: Paul-Pierre
Comment: Parcells takes a gamble knowing he can find LB's later

13. Niners T.Williams OT Oklahoma
Should be: Williams, Spiller, BPA

14. Seahawks CJ Spiller RB Clemson
Should be: Spiller

15. Giants S. Witherspoon LB Missouri
Should be: Witherspoon or McClain whoever is there

16. Titans D. Morgan DE Georgia Tech
Should be: Kyle Wilson DB

17. 49ers Earl Thomas FS Texas
Should be: Thomas or Mays

18. Stellers: M. Iupati OG Idaho
Should be: Whoever can keep fat head from harassing young women

19. Falcons K.Wilson DB Boise St.
Should be: BPA or Wilson if he falls
Comments: McDaniels is looking wiser trading for a DB last year. After Haden the pickings are slim at the position

20. Texans C.Dunlap DE Florida
Should be: Defense or Matthews at RB
Comment: You have to sack Manning to stop him and a 2nd round RB is easier to find

21. Bengals T.Mays S USC
Should be: Whoever won the coke snorting challenge at the combine
Comment: Chad Johnson blows on dancing with the stars

22. Patriots J.Paul-Pierre OLB/DE
Should be: Paul-Pierre

23. Packers Anthony Davis OT Rutgers
Should be: O.Line

24. Eagles R.Matthews RB Fresno St
Should be: Matthews

25. Ravens Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
Should be: Gresham

26. Cardinals Charles Brown OT USC
Should be: OT
Comment: Good idea to get a USC connection because he has likely already went through a hot tub experience with Leinart

27. Cowboys M.Pouncey C/G Florida
Should be: Pouncey or a Safety

28. Chargers T.Cody
Should be: Cody
Comment: Replaces our newest DT

29. Jets Everson Griffen DE/OLB
Should be: BPA

30. Vikings B.Price DT UCLA
Should be: DB but they are all gone
Comment: This is where I begin my Tebow watch. Someone is going to try and trade up to draft him soon

31. Colts Jerry Hughes DE TCU
Should be: BPA
Comment: Colts system is set up so well they can take whoever they want every year.

32 Saints Sergio Kindle DE/OLB Texas
Should be: Golden Tate
Comment: Give Brees more weapons
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Old 04-05-2010, 03:12 AM   #3
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Not bad, but I do see it a little different then you do.


1. Rams - Sam Bradford (QB) - Oklahoma
They're taking him. Period.

2. Lions - Suh (DT) - Nebraska
They won't pass on the player most experts think is the best player in this draft. Although, I think the Lions could shock some people and try to move down. It's getting quite expensive to keep paying 1st and 2nd overall pick money year after year.

3. Buccaneers - McCoy (NT) - Oklahoma
They can't pass on him, he's too good to fall out of the top 3 picks.

4. Redskins - Okung (OT) - Oklahoma State
Best OT in the draft. Shanny has vision of Clady racing through his head.

5. Chiefs - Bulaga (OT) - Iowa
They need to much help on the offensive line to think defense first. Some experts think he's the most pro ready offensive line player in the draft.

6. Seahawks - Berry (S) - Tennessee
Defensive minded coach will take a defense player, the best safety in the draft. They need somebody to help cover Fitzgerald. And you never know, Caroll might just be able to get his QB next year if the Cards release Leinart if he strugles this year.

7. Browns - Campbell (OT) - Maryland
Delhome needs time to throw, or that deal will look bad for them.

8. Raiders - Spiller (RB) Clemson
Al is just in too much love with speed guys not to take Spiller. He's never gonna change. He wants Reggie Bush the 2nd and now.

9. Bills - Clausen (QB) - Notre Dame
They need a QB, period.

10. Jaguars - Dan Williams (DT) - Tennessee
They've had a hard time trying to fill the shoes of Stroud and Williams could really help ease the pain.

11. Broncos - Haden (CB) - Florida
I think McD will try to move down becuase he wants more picks and to build the lines but if he can't, Haden has the best value here and the Broncos CB's are exactly spring chickens anymore.

12. Dolphins - Bryant (WR) - Oklahoma State
They need a #1 WR to compete, simple as that.

13. 49ers - Williams (OT) - Oklahoma
They're defense is really starting to hum, another good OT will really help that offense.

14. Seahawks - Witherspoon (LB) - Missouri
With the illness of McClain, the Seahawks prefer the safer pick.

15. Giants - Thomas (FS) - Texas
The G-MEN would love to get their hands on a top DB like this. A versatile guy who can cover or roam.

16. Titans - Morgan (DE) - Georgia Tech
The Titans know the best way to stop Manning is to get in his face.

17. 49ers - Mays (S) - USC
A coach who was a physical player will enjoy his new physical safety.

18. Steelers - Iupati (OG) - Idaho
Probably the best value here and a guy who can try and help restore their running game.

19. Falcons - McClain (ILB) - Alabama
They need to get more physical on defense and they will feel like they got a bargain getting McClain here.

20. Texans - Dunlap (DE) - Florida
They have the offense to hang with the Colts but need to get to Manning a little more often.

21. Bengals - Pierre-Paul (OLB/DE)
The Bengals really wanted one of the top Safety's but rushing the QB will suffice just fine.

22. Patriots - Wilson (DB) - Boise St
A pure value pick for the genius as he tries to rebuild his defense.

23. Packers - Cody (NT) - Alabama
Size does matter and the cold won't affect him as much with the insulation he has.

24. Eagles - Gresham (TE) - Oklahoma
They need more weapons in the passing game.

25. Ravens - Pouncey (C/G) - Florida
He can play Guard for a year or 2 until Birk retires, which should be soon going on his 14th year.

26. Cardinals - Brown (OT) - USC
Leinart will need all the help he can get and their O line has struggled. Nice fit.

27. Cowboys - Price (DT) - UCLA
The Boys have a solid defense but the offense has some good players too. A best value pick here.

28. Chargers - Matthews (RB) - Fresno St
The Chuggers need somebody to compliment Speedy.

29. Jets - Griffen (DE/OLB)
Because just when you think your defense is that good, there's nothing quite like insurance.

30. Vikings - McCoy (QB) - Texas
Even if Favre comes back, it will only allow McCoy to learn the system before he takes over the following year. Without the injury, the Vikings feel he was a top 10 pick and this is a steal for them.

31. Colts - Hughes (DE) - TCU
Somebody to get some pressure on the other side should help free up Freeny from so many double teams and chip blocks.

32 Saints - Kindle (DE/OLB) - Texas
It's obvious, they won't be picking any offensive players with this pick. The defense does need some help too.

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Old 04-05-2010, 07:38 AM   #4
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I really don't see it affecting the flow of the draft that much except that the Skins don't trade up for Bradford or draft a QB. I think the top four picks remain pretty much where they were going to be anyway. I do wonder, however, how this affects the market value for Marshall. Is he worth #14 when McNabb went for an early 2nd and a future 3rd or 4th. The more I look at it, I don't see us getting a 1st for Marshall. I think we are looking at a deal with Seattle involving their 2nd and players (Sims, Hawthorne), to Tampa for both 2nds, or to the Jets for player / players (Mangold / Harris and, maybe, Cotchery). Just my gut based on the current market values for players with a very deep draft and some of the players we are bringing in for private interviews / workouts.
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:41 AM   #5
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The Skins have only four picks in the entire draft. After that #4, their next pick is in the fourth round. I assume they will be desperate to trade down and get more picks. I expect some team that's hungry for a QB or LT will trade up.
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The Skins have only four picks in the entire draft. After that #4, their next pick is in the fourth round. I assume they will be desperate to trade down and get more picks. I expect some team that's hungry for a QB or LT will trade up.
I would not trade back if Okung were available if I were them. I think teams could trade up for Clausen or one of the other LT's later in the 1st at a cheaper cost.
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After the sucess shanny had with Clady there is no way he trades that pick unless Okung is gone. I do think this makes the Clausen situation interesting. I could see the seahags taking him accept they just got fleeced by the the chargers for a back up who was supposed to be the guy there so to me the McNabb situation probably cost Clausen a ton of cash but other than that not a huge re-shuffel
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I really don't see it affecting the flow of the draft that much except that the Skins don't trade up for Bradford or draft a QB. I think the top four picks remain pretty much where they were going to be anyway. I do wonder, however, how this affects the market value for Marshall. Is he worth #14 when McNabb went for an early 2nd and a future 3rd or 4th. The more I look at it, I don't see us getting a 1st for Marshall. I think we are looking at a deal with Seattle involving their 2nd and players (Sims, Hawthorne), to Tampa for both 2nds, or to the Jets for player / players (Mangold / Harris and, maybe, Cotchery). Just my gut based on the current market values for players with a very deep draft and some of the players we are bringing in for private interviews / workouts.
I'd actually prefer any of those 3 trades to #14, especially the Tampa or Jets deals you outlined there. I don't think there's any chance the Jets give up Mangold or Harris though.
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The Jets turned down trade ideas involving Harris last year too. It would be interesting to see Shanny offer us Number 4 for Marshall and a couple of our later round picks to give them more ammo. Maybe a third this year and 4th next year.
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I'd actually prefer any of those 3 trades to #14, especially the Tampa or Jets deals you outlined there. I don't think there's any chance the Jets give up Mangold or Harris though.
I would too. Mangold might be a pipe dream. I could see Harris as a possibility - Ryan seems to like "his guys" on defense.
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The more and more I think about it Marshall is staying Denver and working things out with McD.
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To the starter of this thread correct me if I'm wrong but Oakland doesnt have their 1st rnd pick next year.They gave it to NE in The Seymour deal I believe
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I would too. Mangold might be a pipe dream. I could see Harris as a possibility - Ryan seems to like "his guys" on defense.
Well, if they want to move Harris, I don't think there would be too many hurt feelings if they sent him this way.
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Well, if they want to move Harris, I don't think there would be too many hurt feelings if they sent him this way.
Wouldn't hurt my feelings!
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Hopefully Spiller will go in the top ten.

This increases the odds that J Haden or D Williams fall to #11.
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Still think McDaniels won't be afraid to draft Pouncey or Iutapi at 11 if they like either one of them.
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To the starter of this thread correct me if I'm wrong but Oakland doesnt have their 1st rnd pick next year.They gave it to NE in The Seymour deal I believe
I forgot about that.
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