OT - Movie 'The Hobbit' will be shot in 4D - The Orange Mane

slyinky · 04-02-2010, 03:05 PM

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/the-ho...-be-shot-in-4d

On Monday, we reported that filming of The Hobbit has been delayed thanks to MGM’s ongoing financial difficulties.

Well, we’ve been on the blower to our mate Guillermo Del Toro for an update...

GDT made it clear that the delay is not affecting pre-production. Quite the opposite. It seems it's given him time to properly map out his latest idea for the prequels: 4D.

“Avatar was groundbreaking in so many ways,” Del Toro told us. “But now everybody is doing the exact same thing. Alice, Clash Of The Titans... By the time The Hobbit films come out, we’ll be old news. Everybody will be sick of 3D.”

So how to inject some new blood into the formula?

“I spoke with Peter Jackson,” says the director. “And he told me that the guys at WETA have been looking into the possibilities of 4D... Before he’d even finished the sentence I said, ‘Let’s do it!’”

The 4D concept has been around since the '50s and the WETA-driven modern version will seek to combine Avatar's brand of digital 3D visuals with environmental stimuli (touch, smell, motion...) to give an all-round immersive cinematic experience.

Del Toro is a famously hands-on director with a passion for mechanics and in-camera effects, so it's no big surprise that he's looking to use The Hobbit to spearhead the next technological leap forward.

Back in the '50s, director William Castle famously employed ambient, in-cinema techniques in a quest for deeper audience involvement. (His story is told - in all but name - in the 1993 John Goodman Matinee).

“I’ve always been a fan of the William Castle approach,” says Del Toro. “He really got the audience wriggling in their seats.”

Castle’s gimmicks included a glow in the dark skeleton - which flew over the heads of audience members during House On Haunted Hill - while people were given little electric shocks during screenings of The Tingler.

It’s an idea that was also used more recently for the Shrek 4D ride at Universal Studios, where seats jolted and water was sprayed on unsuspecting movie-watchers.

So what can we expect from Del Toro’s angle on 4D?

“We won’t be doing anything tacky like scratch 'n' sniff,” he says. “But we’re looking into options for in-seat fragrance manipulation for the sequence where the company encounter the trolls. We'll have to distill something really horrible.”

But Del Toro is most excited about the idea of heated seats - which would “warm up” when Bilbo enters Smaug’s chamber - and the use of dry ice and water sprays for the cave scenes when Gollum speaks in riddles to our eponymous hobbit.

“We’re really excited about how far we can push the idea,” Del Toro says. “Movies are always evolving and growing, and this is the next step in that evolution. We can’t wait to get started.”

Rohirrim · 04-02-2010, 03:19 PM

Oh boy, Smell-O-Vision. I'm really not sure I want to smell an orc.

listopencil · 04-02-2010, 04:00 PM

Lame.

Lev Vyvanse · 04-02-2010, 04:09 PM

4D is making you smell nasty ****, making your balls sweaty, and throwing stuff at you while you watch the movie?

broncosteven · 04-02-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Oh boy, Smell-O-Vision. I'm really not sure I want to smell an orc.

Last time we took my daughter to Disney World they had all sorts of productions where they couldn't wait to use the skunk smell and zapp you. Some bug thing, something near the Dumbo ride. I was fighting a skunk digging under our porch and that was the last thing I wanted to encounter 1500 miles from home on vacation.

Eldorado · 04-02-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lev Vyvanse

4D is making you smell nasty ****, making your balls sweaty, and throwing stuff at you while you watch the movie?

If they put it in video games, it will bring new meaning to the 'Tea Bag'.

LRtagger · 04-02-2010, 04:27 PM

We were at Disney World a few weeks ago and the Bugs Life ride is in 4D. It was extremely entertaining.

peacepipe · 04-02-2010, 04:49 PM

just wait til 4d hits the porn industry.

broncosteven · 04-02-2010, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe

just wait til 4d hits the porn industry.

Gives a new concept to the term Money shot.

Kaylore · 04-02-2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe

just wait til 4d hits the porn industry.

People would never leave their homes.

Sodak · 04-02-2010, 05:34 PM

My 7 year old daughter does some of this stuff every time we try to watch a movie. Now we have to pay for it?

Pass..

bronco militia · 04-02-2010, 05:51 PM

they have something similar for the star trek ride at the Vegas Hilton

Tombstone RJ · 04-02-2010, 05:57 PM

It's so not 4D. They should call it 3D with cheap tricks.

Taco John · 04-02-2010, 05:59 PM

I've always wanted to know what a hobbit smells like...

sirhcyennek81 · 04-02-2010, 06:01 PM

Why not just wire the human brain to a computer so we just get the images in our head. If they ever do a Saw in 4d, I'm out.

bronco militia · 04-02-2010, 06:05 PM

I wasn't that impressed with the 3D in Avatar.....am I missing something?

Broncobiv · 04-02-2010, 06:13 PM

3-D is easy enough to produce in theaters across the country...just hand out 3-D glasses to everyone at the door. Simple.

But 4-D? How in the world are you supposed to retrofit every single seat in select theaters with water sprayers, fragrance emitters, seat heaters, vibration, or whatever else they can think of? It just doesn't seem feasible!

DBroncos4life · 04-02-2010, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe

just wait til 4d hits the porn industry.

You can count me out on the 4D for porn. No part of me wants to smell a money shot.

broncosteven · 04-02-2010, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I've always wanted to know what a hobbit smells like...

I am guessing something akin to a KFC fan and a Raider fan that has been just released from jail.

DHallblows · 04-02-2010, 07:07 PM

I enjoy the fact they think that making smells shoot at you makes it 4D. Yes, the 4D dimension isn't time, it's smell

broncosteven · 04-02-2010, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DHallblows

I enjoy the fact they think that making smells shoot at you makes it 4D. Yes, the 4D dimension isn't time, it's smell

Stephen Hawking thinks there are 11 Dimentions. I want to jump between them so I am in the one Denver wins the SB every year.

Pontius Pirate · 04-02-2010, 08:06 PM

You shut up! You shut up and go to hell!

OCBronco · 04-02-2010, 08:17 PM

Ahem.... you did check the date on the story, yes?

Rohirrim · 04-02-2010, 08:33 PM

Years ago they made a movie called "Earthquake" and placed subwoofers all around the seats. Then, when the earthquake started, the woofers emitted low frequency rumbling that shook the seats.

scorpio · 04-02-2010, 08:38 PM

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BY Josh Winning Apr 1st 2010 8:08AM

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04-02-2010, 03:05 PM	#1
slyinky All Rights Reserved Thar she Blows! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 743 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	OT - Movie 'The Hobbit' will be shot in 4D http://www.totalfilm.com/news/the-ho...-be-shot-in-4d On Monday, we reported that filming of The Hobbit has been delayed thanks to MGM’s ongoing financial difficulties. Well, we’ve been on the blower to our mate Guillermo Del Toro for an update... GDT made it clear that the delay is not affecting pre-production. Quite the opposite. It seems it's given him time to properly map out his latest idea for the prequels: 4D. “Avatar was groundbreaking in so many ways,” Del Toro told us. “But now everybody is doing the exact same thing. Alice, Clash Of The Titans... By the time The Hobbit films come out, we’ll be old news. Everybody will be sick of 3D.” So how to inject some new blood into the formula? “I spoke with Peter Jackson,” says the director. “And he told me that the guys at WETA have been looking into the possibilities of 4D... Before he’d even finished the sentence I said, ‘Let’s do it!’” The 4D concept has been around since the '50s and the WETA-driven modern version will seek to combine Avatar's brand of digital 3D visuals with environmental stimuli (touch, smell, motion...) to give an all-round immersive cinematic experience. Del Toro is a famously hands-on director with a passion for mechanics and in-camera effects, so it's no big surprise that he's looking to use The Hobbit to spearhead the next technological leap forward. Back in the '50s, director William Castle famously employed ambient, in-cinema techniques in a quest for deeper audience involvement. (His story is told - in all but name - in the 1993 John Goodman Matinee). “I’ve always been a fan of the William Castle approach,” says Del Toro. “He really got the audience wriggling in their seats.” Castle’s gimmicks included a glow in the dark skeleton - which flew over the heads of audience members during House On Haunted Hill - while people were given little electric shocks during screenings of The Tingler. It’s an idea that was also used more recently for the Shrek 4D ride at Universal Studios, where seats jolted and water was sprayed on unsuspecting movie-watchers. So what can we expect from Del Toro’s angle on 4D? “We won’t be doing anything tacky like scratch 'n' sniff,” he says. “But we’re looking into options for in-seat fragrance manipulation for the sequence where the company encounter the trolls. We'll have to distill something really horrible.” But Del Toro is most excited about the idea of heated seats - which would “warm up” when Bilbo enters Smaug’s chamber - and the use of dry ice and water sprays for the cave scenes when Gollum speaks in riddles to our eponymous hobbit. “We’re really excited about how far we can push the idea,” Del Toro says. “Movies are always evolving and growing, and this is the next step in that evolution. We can’t wait to get started.”

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04-02-2010, 03:19 PM	#2
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,794	Oh boy, Smell-O-Vision. I'm really not sure I want to smell an orc.

04-02-2010, 04:00 PM	#3
listopencil [sarcasm]text[/sarcasm] BOOM! Winner. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The People's Republic Of California Posts: 8,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Broncos FO	Lame.

04-02-2010, 04:09 PM	#4
Lev Vyvanse Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 3,040	4D is making you smell nasty ****, making your balls sweaty, and throwing stuff at you while you watch the movie?

04-02-2010, 04:27 PM	#7
LRtagger Ring of Famer CUT THAT MEAT Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,255 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	We were at Disney World a few weeks ago and the Bugs Life ride is in 4D. It was extremely entertaining.

04-02-2010, 04:49 PM	#8
peacepipe Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,744 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	just wait til 4d hits the porn industry.

04-02-2010, 05:34 PM	#11
Sodak Clueless... Who stole my avatar? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Black Hills of Dakota Posts: 3,080	My 7 year old daughter does some of this stuff every time we try to watch a movie. Now we have to pay for it? Pass..

04-02-2010, 05:51 PM	#12
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	they have something similar for the star trek ride at the Vegas Hilton

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04-02-2010, 05:59 PM	#14
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I've always wanted to know what a hobbit smells like...

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bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	I wasn't that impressed with the 3D in Avatar.....am I missing something?

04-02-2010, 06:13 PM	#17
Broncobiv Tee many martoonis Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,264	3-D is easy enough to produce in theaters across the country...just hand out 3-D glasses to everyone at the door. Simple. But 4-D? How in the world are you supposed to retrofit every single seat in select theaters with water sprayers, fragrance emitters, seat heaters, vibration, or whatever else they can think of? It just doesn't seem feasible!

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DHallblows Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 2,513	I enjoy the fact they think that making smells shoot at you makes it 4D. Yes, the 4D dimension isn't time, it's smell

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Pontius Pirate Tampons are for pussies Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 'Nam Posts: 1,796	You shut up! You shut up and go to hell!

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OCBronco Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 256 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Ahem.... you did check the date on the story, yes?

04-02-2010, 08:33 PM	#24
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,794	Years ago they made a movie called "Earthquake" and placed subwoofers all around the seats. Then, when the earthquake started, the woofers emitted low frequency rumbling that shook the seats.