McDaniels shows stubborn, and unwarrented, belief in Orton - The Orange Mane

Bronco Rob · 03-25-2010, 09:19 AM

McDaniels shows stubborn, and unwarrented, belief in Orton

March 25th, 2010, 8:43 am · Post a Comment · posted by david ramsey

Josh McDaniels has announced Kyle Orton is the Broncos starting quarterback.

“There is no question,” McDaniels said this week.

Actually, coach, there are all kind of questions.

About Orton’s arm strength. About his willingness to stretch and test a defense. About whether he’s talented enough to lead the Broncos – or any NFL team – as a starter.

McDaniels believes in his system, which is a slight variation on the system handed down from above by Patriots coach Bill Belichick.

And the system will lift Orton.

At least that’s what McDaniels believes.

“I’m excited because this is going to be … his second calendar year in our system,” McDaniels said.

Every NFL team should be out there looking for one of the dozen or so men on our planet who can truly excel as an NFL starting quarterback. It’s the toughest task in sports. And it’s the toughest place to remain at the top of the heap.

Orton is not one of those dozen. He wasn’t last season. He won’t be this season.

McDaniels can pretend his wondrous system will convert Orton.

It won’t.

McDaniels should be looking for a player who has the potential to become an elite NFL quarterback.

Orton isn’t that player. Neither is Brady Quinn.

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Beantown Bronco · 03-25-2010, 09:20 AM

Great. Some kid blogging from his mom's basement.

Schism · 03-25-2010, 09:21 AM

We should trade for Peyton Manning.

PRBronco · 03-25-2010, 09:25 AM

Spelling errors in headline = good article.

Tombstone RJ · 03-25-2010, 09:27 AM

"Unwarrented"? Mommy, where's spellcheck?

Dagmar · 03-25-2010, 09:27 AM

Not bad for 1 year in the system. The only other QB on that list that had less than a year with a team is 21st.

Face it some people have made their minds up about Orton and they wont be changed. EVen if he won a SB it'd be in spite of him to a few.

Los Broncos · 03-26-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Great. Some kid blogging from his mom's basement.

Bob?

broncocalijohn · 03-26-2010, 11:18 AM

Come on! Finding an article from a random blogger, doesnt use spell check and doesnt give much info on anything but his thought from the top of his head doesnt deserve even to be on the Mane (where probably someone here wrote it). Not good Rob!

SonOfLe-loLang · 03-26-2010, 11:27 AM

Kyle Orton gets a lot of hate for a QB that threw for 3,800, over 60 percent completion percentage and a decent TD/int ratio. I'm not saying he's amazing, but people speak of him like he's Spergon Wynn

Hamrob · 03-26-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

Not bad for 1 year in the system. The only other QB on that list that had less than a year with a team is 21st.

Face it some people have made their minds up about Orton and they wont be changed. EVen if he won a SB it'd be in spite of him to a few.

No, Orton is every bit as talented as those guys in the top 10...right?

Br0nc0Buster · 03-26-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

No, Orton is every bit as talented as those guys in the top 10...right?

its not physical talent that makes Brees and Brady great
that is not what separates them from the rest

BroncoBuff · 03-26-2010, 11:42 AM

What's McDaniels supposed to say, he sucks?

broncocalijohn · 03-26-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

No, Orton is every bit as talented as those guys in the top 10...right?

ok Einstein, who is going to give us their Top 10 QB? I see the last one was well past Orton on that list. Give it a rest.

Irish Stout · 03-26-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

Not bad for 1 year in the system. The only other QB on that list that had less than a year with a team is 21st.

Face it some people have made their minds up about Orton and they wont be changed. EVen if he won a SB it'd be in spite of him to a few.

Errrr... what about the #2 guy - Favre?

Taco John · 03-26-2010, 11:49 AM

I don't understand why people are so impatient about this. What else is Josh going to say? He'd absolutely lose the entire team if he just made a unilateral decision to replace the team's starter.

And for that matter, people should probably get used to the idea that this is Orton's job to lose probably going all the way into October, unless Quinn is absolutely knocking our socks off in August.

jmccliment · 03-26-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish McStout

Errrr... what about the #2 guy - Favre?

One of the big draws for Favre was that he was already familiar with the system Childress was running in Minn -- it's essentially the same system he ran in GB. Can't really call that "year 1" of a new system. Orton went from Chicago's "what, they allow a forward pass?" offense to McD's "Hey, look -- another WR Screen!" offense. Totally different...

snowspot66 · 03-26-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

No, Orton is every bit as talented as those guys in the top 10...right?

Know where we can get one of those top ten guys? Cause I sure don't. I doubt their teams would be willing to trade.

Paladin · 03-26-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Come on! Finding an article from a random blogger, doesnt use spell check and doesnt give much info on anything but his thought from the top of his head doesnt deserve even to be on the Mane (where probably someone here wrote it). Not good Rob!

How is he different form most posters here?

jmccliment · 03-26-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Come on! Finding an article from a random blogger, doesnt use spell check and doesnt give much info on anything but his thought from the top of his head doesnt deserve even to be on the Mane (where probably someone here wrote it). Not good Rob!

Actually, I was curious and actually clicked the link -- it's not some random blogger, it's Colorado Springs Gazette sports columnist David Ramsey. Doesn't make the article any better or the opinion any more informed, but he's not totally random...

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-26-2010, 12:17 PM

Ramsey's a columnist (not a very good one), not a blogger.

Dedhed · 03-26-2010, 12:35 PM

MACdanyells is a jurk. Nobodie likes him, and he's not never goin to have suxess as the coach of the Broncoes. Orton will never bee an NFL kalliber quarterback.

Drek · 03-26-2010, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I don't understand why people are so impatient about this. What else is Josh going to say? He'd absolutely lose the entire team if he just made a unilateral decision to replace the team's starter.

And for that matter, people should probably get used to the idea that this is Orton's job to lose probably going all the way into October, unless Quinn is absolutely knocking our socks off in August.

Pretty much. You can't jerk a starter before his replacement has even thrown a single pass for the team.

And the longer McDaniels can go into season 1 (while still winning) with Orton at the helm the more it will benefit Quinn. Putting Quinn on the field too soon before he gets acclimated in the system is asking for bad results.

Man-Goblin · 03-26-2010, 12:56 PM

gyldenlove · 03-26-2010, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

Not bad for 1 year in the system. The only other QB on that list that had less than a year with a team is 21st.

Face it some people have made their minds up about Orton and they wont be changed. EVen if he won a SB it'd be in spite of him to a few.

Some people would argue that number 2 on that list also in his first year in that system - just saying.

crush17 · 03-26-2010, 01:04 PM

this guy is in Colorado Springs?? What a grade A douche nozzle.

03-25-2010, 09:19 AM	#1
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	McDaniels shows stubborn, and unwarrented, belief in Orton McDaniels shows stubborn, and unwarrented, belief in Orton March 25th, 2010, 8:43 am · Post a Comment · posted by david ramsey Josh McDaniels has announced Kyle Orton is the Broncos starting quarterback. “There is no question,” McDaniels said this week. Actually, coach, there are all kind of questions. About Orton’s arm strength. About his willingness to stretch and test a defense. About whether he’s talented enough to lead the Broncos – or any NFL team – as a starter. McDaniels believes in his system, which is a slight variation on the system handed down from above by Patriots coach Bill Belichick. And the system will lift Orton. At least that’s what McDaniels believes. “I’m excited because this is going to be … his second calendar year in our system,” McDaniels said. Every NFL team should be out there looking for one of the dozen or so men on our planet who can truly excel as an NFL starting quarterback. It’s the toughest task in sports. And it’s the toughest place to remain at the top of the heap. Orton is not one of those dozen. He wasn’t last season. He won’t be this season. McDaniels can pretend his wondrous system will convert Orton. It won’t. McDaniels should be looking for a player who has the potential to become an elite NFL quarterback. Orton isn’t that player. Neither is Brady Quinn. http://daveramseysez.freedomblogging...in-orton/2611/

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PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	Spelling errors in headline = good article.

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Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Not bad for 1 year in the system. The only other QB on that list that had less than a year with a team is 21st. Face it some people have made their minds up about Orton and they wont be changed. EVen if he won a SB it'd be in spite of him to a few.

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broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,464 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Come on! Finding an article from a random blogger, doesnt use spell check and doesnt give much info on anything but his thought from the top of his head doesnt deserve even to be on the Mane (where probably someone here wrote it). Not good Rob!

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SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,217 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	Kyle Orton gets a lot of hate for a QB that threw for 3,800, over 60 percent completion percentage and a decent TD/int ratio. I'm not saying he's amazing, but people speak of him like he's Spergon Wynn

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BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	What's McDaniels supposed to say, he sucks?

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Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I don't understand why people are so impatient about this. What else is Josh going to say? He'd absolutely lose the entire team if he just made a unilateral decision to replace the team's starter. And for that matter, people should probably get used to the idea that this is Orton's job to lose probably going all the way into October, unless Quinn is absolutely knocking our socks off in August.

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