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Old 03-28-2010, 04:27 AM   #1
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Paige: New song, dance for Q


By Woody Paige
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Posted: 03/28/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT



Another great quarterback named Brady or just another kid from the Brady Bunch?

Another world-class quarterback out of Notre Dame (Joe "Barry" Montanailow) or another Fighting Irish bust (Rick Mirer)?

Well, I guess we'll all see, Bob, and Josh.

But wouldn't it be lovely if Brady Quinn became a star quarterback, someday took the Broncos to the AFC championship in Cleveland, orchestrated a 98-yard touchdown drive in the final seconds of regulation for the tie, then directed an overtime victory?

Coach Josh McDaniels was asked by The Post the other day if Kyle Orton still was the Broncos' No. 1 quarterback after the acquisition of Quinn.

"Yep. No question," he replied.

What did you expect the coach to say? "Nope. Quinn's our main man. Orton drops to No. 2."

It's March, and neither the O or the Q has thrown a pass in anger — or minicamp. Ask Mac again in August, November or 2011 (when Orton becomes an unrestricted free agent).

Yep, there is a question about Quinn and Orton.

Quinn will become the Broncos' fifth quarterback who played at Notre Dame. Frank Tripucka was the first (42 starts beginning with the team's inaugural game in 1960. The others were Steve Beuerlein (five starts), Jarious Jackson (one) and Ken Karcher (three replacement player games). Karcher played one game at Notre Dame before transferring to Tulane.

Quinn, who was chosen No. 22 overall in 2007, will be the Broncos' most prominent former first-round pick since, uh, Jay Cutler (11th in 2006). Elway was selected No. 1 overall in 1983 by the Baltimore Colts. The Broncos drafted Tommy Maddox at No. 25 in 1992.

First-round draft choices of other teams who came to the Broncos were Tripucka, Craig Morton, Don Horn, Chris Miller, Pat Ramsey and George H. Shaw.

So, will Quinn be like Elway or Morton (Super Bowl quarterbacks) or Miller or Shaw (one season and out)? Or someone in between?

Quinn has the college pedigree. He threw for 9,931 yards and 86 touchdowns as a four-year starter. Notre Dame won 19 and lost six in his last two years — and scored 40 points or more 13 times, 30-plus in 20 games. He won the Johnny Unitas Award as the nation's top quarterback and finished third in the Heisman balloting. He was expected to be picked as high as second, but fell to 22.

He has a strong arm. He has leadership qualities. He's smart and tough — and can run some.

In his first NFL start, against the Broncos in 2008, Quinn looked very good, completing 23-of-35 for 239 yards and two touchdowns (without an interception), but Cutler brought the Broncos back with three touchdowns in a 34-30 victory. The next week in Buffalo, Quinn earned his first pro victory but broke a finger and finished the season on injured reserve.

However . . .

Quinn is an erratic passer (52.1 percent in 14 games), holds onto the ball too long in the pocket and has a lousy yards-per-attempt (5.39), with 10 touchdowns and nine interceptions.

He threw for 271 and 304 yards in two games last year, but lost both, and had only 34 and 99 yards passing, with three interceptions, in two defeats to the Ravens. And he looked bad in the Browns' 27-6 loss in Denver. He is 3-9 as a starter.

The Browns had little faith in Quinn, and new president Mike Holmgren, who knows quarterbacks, jettisoned him for a seldom- used running back and two future late-round picks.

Quinn, though, played for a miserable team and might not have received the best of coaching with the Browns, according to a reader of The Post, Dale Wemple. Cleveland head coaches Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini always have been defensive coaches. Wemple points out that Crennel hired Rob Chudzinski, who had never coached a quarterback, as his offensive coordinator; and Mangini brought Brian Daboll with him to the Browns. Daboll had been a wide receivers assistant before becoming coordinator with the Jets. He worked with Chad Pennington, then Brett Favre, who had, Wemple argues, "terrible" seasons.

"The point is, Brady never really had (in the NFL) anyone with real quarterback experience around him. I think McD will help this kid out," Wemple ended his e-mail.

QB Quinn has a fresh chance in life.

And we have a fresh quarterback controversy, as Bob Dylan would say, blowin' in the wind.





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Old 03-28-2010, 04:33 AM   #2
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Paige is doing it wrong. The Fabulous Quinn. That's the ticket.
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Quinn, though, played for a miserable team and might not have received the best of coaching with the Browns, according to a reader of The Post, Dale Wemple. Cleveland head coaches Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini always have been defensive coaches. Wemple points out that Crennel hired Rob Chudzinski, who had never coached a quarterback, as his offensive coordinator; and Mangini brought Brian Daboll with him to the Browns. Daboll had been a wide receivers assistant before becoming coordinator with the Jets. He worked with Chad Pennington, then Brett Favre, who had, Wemple argues, "terrible" seasons.

"The point is, Brady never really had (in the NFL) anyone with real quarterback experience around him. I think McD will help this kid out," Wemple ended his e-mail.

QB Quinn has a fresh chance in life.

And we have a fresh quarterback controversy, as Bob Dylan would say, blowin' in the wind.[/size][/font]




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Woody is quoting me here. All the way from a hammock in Hawaii......heh heh.
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:59 AM   #4
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I hope he does well thought value wise it was a good trade for us if Quinn even starts a handfull of games it was worth it. I like him better than Clausen, even though their college #s are similar Clausen just rubs me the long way. But so long as I dont personally know Quinn he cant rub or grab me so there is that.
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:09 AM   #5
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Woody is quoting me here. All the way from a hammock in Hawaii......heh heh.

I thought some of his info sounded familiar....http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=90128

Nice job with the write in!
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:43 AM   #6
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Woody is a hack. Oh well, at least he knows where to come for the good stuff.
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I thought some of his info sounded familiar....http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=90128

Nice job with the write in!

Right. Only he got some of the info wrong no? I copy/pasted the info from the thread and sent it.........I never said Daboll was a WR coach.

He coached DBs in NE then WRs a minute. Then he went over to the Jets with Mangina and was named QB coach two years then OC at the Browns.
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The key for Quinn's success will be determined in TC.
I want to see all 3 QB's get a fair shot at competing for the job.
I don't think Orton can beat out Quinn and/or Brandstater on a fair all across the board battle for the job...
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He has McDaniels brother as QB coach that should really help.
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Woody is quoting me here. All the way from a hammock in Hawaii......heh heh.
Your writeup was WAY better.
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Old 03-28-2010, 04:19 PM   #11
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He has McDaniels brother as QB coach that should really help.
Yep, it should.

We didn't have a dedicated QB coach last year (McCoy pulled double duty while McDaniels called the plays). Now we've got a guy who was an assistant within the system last year, who was also a Division 1 QB, helping to shoulder that load.

Should make for more hands on time for all three QBs.
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Paige is doing it wrong. The Fabulous Quinn. That's the ticket.
Except the mighty quinn was a bob dylan song..
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Woody is quoting me here. All the way from a hammock in Hawaii......heh heh.
That was a nice piece you did. Good job. Maybe you should take Woody's job.
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