NCAA Tourney Expansion Coming - The Orange Mane

bombay · 03-23-2010, 07:47 AM

http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2...pen-likely-in/

As soon as next year.

Dukes · 03-23-2010, 07:53 AM

Lets take the best tournament in sports and ruin it. Yeah!

SoDak Bronco · 03-23-2010, 08:01 AM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Garcia Bronco · 03-23-2010, 08:04 AM

What a waste of time. It's already too bloated.

Man-Goblin · 03-23-2010, 08:07 AM

The tournament should start in October and include every non-professional basketball team in the country.

Tombstone RJ · 03-23-2010, 08:08 AM

Anything that involves Leslie Visser is just wrong.

tsiguy96 · 03-23-2010, 08:09 AM

so a #16 seed has never won a single game in teh NCAA tournament, but they feel teh need to add more teams anyway? does this not strike everyone as dumb? this may be the most fair and fun tournament in all of sports and they are going to ruin it to try and rake in more cash. real smart.

bfoflcommish · 03-23-2010, 08:31 AM

wait.......the fabulous sports babe is still on the radio

I havent heard her in Denver in ages. shes got to be well over 50 i think, maybe she should drop the babe portion of the name?

Doggcow · 03-23-2010, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

so a #16 seed has never won a single game in teh NCAA tournament, but they feel teh need to add more teams anyway? does this not strike everyone as dumb? this may be the most fair and fun tournament in all of sports and they are going to ruin it to try and rake in more cash. real smart.

I'm against the tournament to start, but-

Likely the teams getting 16 seeds will still be 18/20 seeds in an expansion. This would just allow for more of those "on the bubble" teams to get in and then all those garbage conferences with automatic bids dont really affect other solid teams.

tsiguy96 · 03-23-2010, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggcow

I'm against the tournament to start, but-

Likely the teams getting 16 seeds will still be 18/20 seeds in an expansion. This would just allow for more of those "on the bubble" teams to get in and then all those garbage conferences with automatic bids dont really affect other solid teams.

so in other words, add more teams that will inevitably lose? or is this to make sure uconn and NC dont NOT make it anymore?

Br0nc0Buster · 03-23-2010, 08:44 AM

**** it
lets get 200 teams in there, division II teams also

1st round Kentucky vs. Flint Hills Tech College
lets do it

Irish Stout · 03-23-2010, 08:45 AM

Until they expand it to allow for at least one Colorado team to make the tourney, I will not care.

Irish Stout · 03-23-2010, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

**** it
lets get 200 teams in there, division II teams also

1st round Kentucky vs. Flint Hills Tech College
lets do it

I think we need to expand it to 250 teams to guarantee that CU, CSU, DU or UNC have a chance to play in it.

cousinal11 · 03-23-2010, 08:49 AM

I really cant believe they are doing this. A very big mistake in my opinion.

I hate college football because of the BCS, non-playoff bull****, but have always been a huge college basketball fan.

Makes me sick.

WolfpackGuy · 03-23-2010, 08:52 AM

If the NCAA does opt out, the highest bidding network will insist on more games/teams.

tsiguy96 · 03-23-2010, 08:55 AM

how about just get rid of the NIT, its more embarrassing to go to that then not go to anything. if you dont make NCAA 64 (65) then you dont play.

bombay · 03-23-2010, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfoflcommish

wait.......the fabulous sports babe is still on the radio

I havent heard her in Denver in ages. shes got to be well over 50 i think, maybe she should drop the babe portion of the name?

Yeah, I was shocked. Saw her once at CB & Potts on Arapahoe. She goes about 3 bills.

Man-Goblin · 03-23-2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

how about just get rid of the NIT, its more embarrassing to go to that then not go to anything. if you dont make NCAA 64 (65) then you dont play.

I was surprised to hear that like 50 years ago the NIT was bigger than the NCAA tournament. It used to be a huge honor to be invited.

TheChamp24 · 03-23-2010, 09:09 AM

They want to expand to 96 teams, right?
Well, 48 vs 48, next round 48 teams.
Next round 24 teams
Next round 12 teams
Next round 6 teams
Then...next round 3 teams?

How will it work out?

bombay · 03-23-2010, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McFoneco1331

They want to expand to 96 teams, right?
Well, 48 vs 48, next round 48 teams.
Next round 24 teams
Next round 12 teams
Next round 6 teams
Then...next round 3 teams?

How will it work out?

Probably byes for the top 8 seeds in each bracket.

tsiguy96 · 03-23-2010, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McFoneco1331

They want to expand to 96 teams, right?
Well, 48 vs 48, next round 48 teams.
Next round 24 teams
Next round 12 teams
Next round 6 teams
Then...next round 3 teams?

How will it work out?

3 team game of horse to decide champ

Doggcow · 03-23-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

so in other words, add more teams that will inevitably lose? or is this to make sure uconn and NC dont NOT make it anymore?

Realistically if UNC went up against Kansas, I think they would have had a shot in the first round.

I think it will just bump down the ****ty teams that only make it because we're forced to give them a bid.

spdirty · 03-23-2010, 09:17 AM

Sweet! Maybe CU will now get in every third year!

HAT · 03-23-2010, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McFoneco1331

They want to expand to 96 teams, right?
Well, 48 vs 48, next round 48 teams.
Next round 24 teams
Next round 12 teams
Next round 6 teams
Then...next round 3 teams?

How will it work out?

Same as it does now, but there will be 32 "play in" games instead of 1.

Teams 1-32 get byes....33-96 play each other and the winners get re-seeded in with 1-32.

96 teams sounds like overkill on the surface but it's really not that big of a deal....It's one extra game.

Selection Sunday...Play in games on Tuesday....64 team tourney on Thursday like normal.

bombay · 03-23-2010, 10:31 AM

"Whether or not they expand the size of the tournament, I hope they establish some transparent, fixed, permanent rules in regard to the selection criteria as they apply to the at-large selections and the seeding of teams.

I know I've posted this before, but I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest teams must finish above .500 in their conference play, establish a set RPI standard above which a team must finish, and require programs to play a certain minimal number of road games in their non-conference schedule other than tournaments and "Challenges" in order to prevent any program from rigging the system beyond a certain point.

As for the seeding of the teams, take some of the subjectivity out of it and simply seed them 1 through Whatever based on their RPI and continue to have them play all games on a neutral court, taking into account only that teams from the same conference do not play against one another in the first round.

Personally, I couldn't care less if they trim it back to 64 or expand it to something like 80; but whatever they do, I hope they establish some rules to prevent it from becoming the "Power 6 Conference Tournament After What Used To Be The Regular Post-Season Conference Tournament." If they don't it will not only water down the product, it will also kill the spirit of the tournament while continuing to potentially exclude the UNIs and ODUs of the college basketball landscape for the sake of getting the Seton Halls, Texas Techs, and Northwesterns into the tournament."

^ ^ ^ ^

This guy is a dreamer, but I really like his ideas.

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03-23-2010, 07:47 AM	#1
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,320	NCAA Tourney Expansion Coming http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2...pen-likely-in/ As soon as next year.

03-23-2010, 07:53 AM	#2
Dukes Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,317	Lets take the best tournament in sports and ruin it. Yeah!

03-23-2010, 08:01 AM	#3
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

03-23-2010, 08:04 AM	#4
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	What a waste of time. It's already too bloated.

03-23-2010, 08:07 AM	#5
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	The tournament should start in October and include every non-professional basketball team in the country.

03-23-2010, 08:08 AM	#6
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,272 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	Anything that involves Leslie Visser is just wrong.

03-23-2010, 08:09 AM	#7
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	so a #16 seed has never won a single game in teh NCAA tournament, but they feel teh need to add more teams anyway? does this not strike everyone as dumb? this may be the most fair and fun tournament in all of sports and they are going to ruin it to try and rake in more cash. real smart.

03-23-2010, 08:31 AM	#8
bfoflcommish Time for Broncos Football GO..........BRONCOS Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mile High Posts: 3,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steve Atwater	wait.......the fabulous sports babe is still on the radio I havent heard her in Denver in ages. shes got to be well over 50 i think, maybe she should drop the babe portion of the name?

03-23-2010, 08:44 AM	#11
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,421	**** it lets get 200 teams in there, division II teams also 1st round Kentucky vs. Flint Hills Tech College lets do it

03-23-2010, 08:45 AM	#12
Irish Stout Ring of Famer Run for it Marty! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,802 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	Until they expand it to allow for at least one Colorado team to make the tourney, I will not care.

03-23-2010, 08:49 AM	#14
cousinal11 East Coast Bronco Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,203 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dresseen	I really cant believe they are doing this. A very big mistake in my opinion. I hate college football because of the BCS, non-playoff bull****, but have always been a huge college basketball fan. Makes me sick.

03-23-2010, 08:52 AM	#15
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,674	If the NCAA does opt out, the highest bidding network will insist on more games/teams.

03-23-2010, 08:55 AM	#16
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	how about just get rid of the NIT, its more embarrassing to go to that then not go to anything. if you dont make NCAA 64 (65) then you dont play.

03-23-2010, 09:09 AM	#19
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,872	They want to expand to 96 teams, right? Well, 48 vs 48, next round 48 teams. Next round 24 teams Next round 12 teams Next round 6 teams Then...next round 3 teams? How will it work out?

03-23-2010, 09:17 AM	#23
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,883 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Sweet! Maybe CU will now get in every third year!

03-23-2010, 10:31 AM	#25
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,320	"Whether or not they expand the size of the tournament, I hope they establish some transparent, fixed, permanent rules in regard to the selection criteria as they apply to the at-large selections and the seeding of teams. I know I've posted this before, but I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest teams must finish above .500 in their conference play, establish a set RPI standard above which a team must finish, and require programs to play a certain minimal number of road games in their non-conference schedule other than tournaments and "Challenges" in order to prevent any program from rigging the system beyond a certain point. As for the seeding of the teams, take some of the subjectivity out of it and simply seed them 1 through Whatever based on their RPI and continue to have them play all games on a neutral court, taking into account only that teams from the same conference do not play against one another in the first round. Personally, I couldn't care less if they trim it back to 64 or expand it to something like 80; but whatever they do, I hope they establish some rules to prevent it from becoming the "Power 6 Conference Tournament After What Used To Be The Regular Post-Season Conference Tournament." If they don't it will not only water down the product, it will also kill the spirit of the tournament while continuing to potentially exclude the UNIs and ODUs of the college basketball landscape for the sake of getting the Seton Halls, Texas Techs, and Northwesterns into the tournament." ^ ^ ^ ^ This guy is a dreamer, but I really like his ideas.