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Old 03-22-2010, 08:20 AM   #1
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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 22, 2010 10:03 AM ET

The addition of Richie Incognito in Miami means a subtraction is coming on the Dolphins offensive line.

Edgar Thompson of the Palm Beach Post reports guard Justin Smiley has been told to stay away from the team's offseason conditioning program because the team plans to trade him.

Smiley got $9 million guaranteed to sign with Miami in 2008, but hasn't lived up to expectations and has struggled to stay healthy. Still, Smiley is only 28 years old and has started 73 games in his six year career. There should be a market for him.

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Looks like the Dolphin fans are calling for Shefler straight up in trade or a 3/4 rounder...
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I'm guessing the Dolphins already have an offer in pocket (why else would they tell him to stay home and alert the world to the fact that they want to trade him) and are trying to stir up more interest in hopes of getting a better deal. My guess is a 5th with them being estatic for a 4th.
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Richie Incognito is going to bite Miami in the ass. He is already pissing players off. Phins players are upset because they talked about not having people like him on the team and they went out and got him. It's going to be like Dale Carter 2.0 in Miami this year.
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Looks like the Dolphin fans are calling for Shefler straight up in trade or a 3/4 rounder...
I'd be fine with Tony or a fifth.
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Can the guy stay healthy for any significant amount of time?
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Richie Incognito is going to bite Miami in the ass. He is already pissing players off. Phins players are upset because they talked about not having people like him on the team and they went out and got him. It's going to be like Dale Carter 2.0 in Miami this year.
I've heard of players being confused, but haven't heard of any being pisses. Can you post a link? I'm curious.
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So you want an O lineman that can't stay healthy and is generally a disappointment for a TE that gives matchup nightmares
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I would take Smiley for a disposable player like Scheffler or a mid-round choice, but nothing higher than the fourth round. He is an average player, who will have some great games and look absolutely awful in others. He isn't very streaky, and isn't the kind of guy who is going to be making the Pro-Bowl on a consecutive basis. He can start though and has that potential. He has just been inconsistent in doing so on a regular basis the past few years.
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a little dramatic, but yes
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I've heard of players being confused, but haven't heard of any being pisses. Can you post a link? I'm curious.
It was on a Phins board. I'll look to see what I can find.

Opps it was on a Bills message board, I was looking to on them to see the contract details for Edwards. Still looking for it.

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Incognito gives Dolphins mixed message
March, 18, 2010 By Tim Graham

There's no questioning the Miami Dolphins have added some nastiness to their offensive line with Wednesday's signing of guard Richie Incognito.

They've also injected a healthy dose of confusion into the locker room.

Three Dolphins players I've spoken with since the team signed Incognito to a one-year contract expressed intrigue over the move. In general, they like his ability and versatility. But the players claim Incognito's arrival undercuts what football operations boss Bill Parcells and head coach Tony Sparano have preached about character since they took over the team.

"I think he'll make our line better," one Dolphins player said. "But I don't get it. What he represents goes against everything they've been telling us."

Not acting like a buffoon long has been a hallmark of a Parcells organization. Sparano doesn't put up with on-the-field shenanigans either. Players who can't control themselves are asked to turn in their playbooks.

Yet the Dolphins are introducing a player onto their roster whose career is infamously based on personal fouls, blowups and fines.

Incognito committed 11 personal fouls in less than four seasons with the St. Louis Rams. They waived him in December after a game in which he committed two personal fouls and got into a sideline confrontation with head coach Steve Spagnuolo.

The NFL fined Incognito $50,000 for his actions in that game. League disciplinarian Ray Anderson sent a letter to Incognito to inform him the next transgression could lead to a suspension.

Remember how Buffalo Bills linebacker Kawika Mitchell reacted via Twitter when they claimed Incognito off waivers in December?

"BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT THIS YR. THE GUYS A BUM. DIRTY AND ALWAYS WILL BE. REALLY WISH I WAS PLAYIN RITE NOW. SERIOUSLY... I KNO WE'RE N NEED OF OLINE BUT THIS GUY ..."

The reaction of Dolphins players I spoke with wasn't nearly that strong, but it was in the zip code.

The Dolphins have prided themselves on being a clean team. The Dolphins committed 68 accepted penalties for 640 yards last year. Only three teams had fewer accepted penalties and were assessed fewer penalty yards.

Incognito was whistled for 10 accepted penalties for 115 yards. His accumulated transgressions would be 18 percent of the Dolphins' entire team.

The Dolphins need help on their interior line. They've been on the lookout for depth at guard for two years.

Left guard Justin Smiley is a clear-cut starter when healthy, but he has missed 13 games over the past three seasons with leg and shoulder injuries. Right guard Donald Thomas has immense potential but lost his starting job to Nate Garner with the season on the line in Week 14, days before the Dolphins put in the waiver claim for Incognito but lost him to the Bills.

Incognito didn't ingratiate himself to the Bills in his short time with them. Their new front office declined to tender a qualifying offer, forfeiting their restricted free agency rights to him.

The Dolphins must believe they can keep Incognito in check.

Personnel men and coaches routinely are convinced, even though others failed previously, that they can fix a problem player. Parcells and Sparano have a better shot than most. Parcells has a track record, and Sparano's roots are as an O-line coach.

Incognito has been apologetic about his past misdeeds and has professed a desire to keep his emotions under control.

In the locker room, however, players are skeptical about the decision and wonder about the mixed message

Sorry I read it wrong it was Mitchell from the Bills that was pissed. Still it doesn't sound like he well liked in the Dolphins locker room either.
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It was on a Phins board. I'll look to see what I can find.

Opps it was on a Bills message board, I was looking to on them to see the contract details for Edwards. Still looking for it.
See. There is the problem. You were on a Bills board. Don't you feel dirty?
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Incognito gives Dolphins mixed message
March, 18, 2010 By Tim Graham

There's no questioning the Miami Dolphins have added some nastiness to their offensive line with Wednesday's signing of guard Richie Incognito.

They've also injected a healthy dose of confusion into the locker room.

Three Dolphins players I've spoken with since the team signed Incognito to a one-year contract expressed intrigue over the move. In general, they like his ability and versatility. But the players claim Incognito's arrival undercuts what football operations boss Bill Parcells and head coach Tony Sparano have preached about character since they took over the team.

"I think he'll make our line better," one Dolphins player said. "But I don't get it. What he represents goes against everything they've been telling us."

Not acting like a buffoon long has been a hallmark of a Parcells organization. Sparano doesn't put up with on-the-field shenanigans either. Players who can't control themselves are asked to turn in their playbooks.

Yet the Dolphins are introducing a player onto their roster whose career is infamously based on personal fouls, blowups and fines.

Incognito committed 11 personal fouls in less than four seasons with the St. Louis Rams. They waived him in December after a game in which he committed two personal fouls and got into a sideline confrontation with head coach Steve Spagnuolo.

The NFL fined Incognito $50,000 for his actions in that game. League disciplinarian Ray Anderson sent a letter to Incognito to inform him the next transgression could lead to a suspension.

Remember how Buffalo Bills linebacker Kawika Mitchell reacted via Twitter when they claimed Incognito off waivers in December?

"BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT THIS YR. THE GUYS A BUM. DIRTY AND ALWAYS WILL BE. REALLY WISH I WAS PLAYIN RITE NOW. SERIOUSLY... I KNO WE'RE N NEED OF OLINE BUT THIS GUY ..."

The reaction of Dolphins players I spoke with wasn't nearly that strong, but it was in the zip code.

The Dolphins have prided themselves on being a clean team. The Dolphins committed 68 accepted penalties for 640 yards last year. Only three teams had fewer accepted penalties and were assessed fewer penalty yards.

Incognito was whistled for 10 accepted penalties for 115 yards. His accumulated transgressions would be 18 percent of the Dolphins' entire team.

The Dolphins need help on their interior line. They've been on the lookout for depth at guard for two years.

Left guard Justin Smiley is a clear-cut starter when healthy, but he has missed 13 games over the past three seasons with leg and shoulder injuries. Right guard Donald Thomas has immense potential but lost his starting job to Nate Garner with the season on the line in Week 14, days before the Dolphins put in the waiver claim for Incognito but lost him to the Bills.

Incognito didn't ingratiate himself to the Bills in his short time with them. Their new front office declined to tender a qualifying offer, forfeiting their restricted free agency rights to him.

The Dolphins must believe they can keep Incognito in check.

Personnel men and coaches routinely are convinced, even though others failed previously, that they can fix a problem player. Parcells and Sparano have a better shot than most. Parcells has a track record, and Sparano's roots are as an O-line coach.

Incognito has been apologetic about his past misdeeds and has professed a desire to keep his emotions under control.

In the locker room, however, players are skeptical about the decision and wonder about the mixed message

Sorry I read it wrong it was Mitchell from the Bills that was pissed. Still it doesn't sound like he well liked in the Dolphins locker room either.
Thanks. I had read that the players were confused because Rotten Richie was everything they said they didn't like and then went out and signed him. I just hadn't seen anyone of them pissed. OTOH, would you come out in the media that you were pissed at a move Parcells made?
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Yeah but other boards tend to be a good place to pick up info... Bills fans had Edwards tagged at a 4 year 18 million dollar deal. That's a lot of money for a player that didn't pass two other teams physicals.
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Yeah but other boards tend to be a good place to pick up info... Bills fans had Edwards tagged at a 4 year 18 million dollar deal. That's a lot of money for a player that didn't pass two other teams physicals.
Which Bills sight do you frequent? I periodically hit billszone.com (and shower afterwards). If you want a good Dolphin sight, try thephins.com. I know Finheaven is more popular, but I think there are more knowledgable posters on thephins. Any other good sights of other teams you visit?
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Which Bills sight do you frequent? I periodically hit billszone.com (and shower afterwards). If you want a good Dolphin sight, try thephins.com. I know Finheaven is more popular, but I think there are more knowledgable posters on thephins. Any other good sights of other teams you visit?
I'm a member of the Finheaven but I don't post there much. The Bills board is Buffalobills.com I just joined the first Bills site that popped up on google lol.
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